Ingame Playerlist

Sinkler · #1 11-09-2008, 02:54 AM

How do I get rid of this blue ingame playerlist?

Crono · #2 11-09-2008, 03:13 AM

F7
Options
Uncheck "Use in-game playerlist"

Don't even know why Stefan added it, its awful.

Skyld · #3 11-09-2008, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono

Don't even know why Stefan added it, its awful.

Because Mac and Linux users don't have a choice. Maybe Windows users won't soon, either.

knightfire35 · #4 11-09-2008, 03:28 AM

I use the in-game player list, I like it way more than the other one.

Tigairius · #5 11-09-2008, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

Because Mac and Linux users don't have a choice. Maybe Windows users won't soon, either.

To clear up what Skyld said, when windows users don't have a choice it'll be windowed anyways, just using the -Playerlist script.

kia345 · #6 11-09-2008, 04:16 AM

Did that buggy docked playerlist ever get fixed?

cbk1994 · #7 11-09-2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345

Did that buggy docked playerlist ever get fixed?

No.

Crono · #8 11-09-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

Because Mac and Linux users don't have a choice. Maybe Windows users won't soon, either.

**** mac and linux users

Sinkler · #9 11-09-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

**** mac and linux users

Agreed.

Umat · #10 11-09-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

**** mac and linux users

That's a r***rded thing to say. That's like saying **** blacks and asians.

Chompy · #11 11-09-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat

That's a r***rded thing to say. That's like saying **** blacks and asians.

When did computers have a life or a mind it self?

Codein · #12 11-09-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chompy

When did computers have a life or a mind it self?

I think he's talking more about the user rather than the computer itself.

Chompy · #13 11-09-2008, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein

I think he's talking more about the user rather than the computer itself.

Yeah, but he's comparing a human with a computer. Doesn't matter if the user of the Mac or Linux computer is Asian or Black..

Umat · #14 11-09-2008, 03:44 PM

I think it's great that CJ offers support for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. It's a step towards the future, more companies are doing this every year. Id software has been doing this since the beginning.

Just because you're stuck with Mac or just doesn't want to use Windows doesn't mean that you don't want to play games. CJ decided to make it easy for themselves by making the in-game playerlist, yes it sucks and Mac/Linux should be able to use an external one too. But the in-game one will do fine until then. (I know it will never happen.)

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Yeah, but he's comparing a human with a computer. Doesn't matter if the user of the Mac or Linux computer is Asian or Black..

What I meant was that it's as stupid as anything to discriminate someone because of what operating system they're using. The black/asian was not needed though, I feel you. But I want you to understand.

Codein · #15 11-09-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chompy

Yeah, but he's comparing a human with a computer. Doesn't matter if the user of the Mac or Linux computer is Asian or Black..

He's not. He's comparing with between 4 different types of people. Blacks and Asians and Linux and Mac users. However, I don't believe the level of discrimination is the same.

Umat · #16 11-09-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein

However, I don't believe the level of discrimination is the same.

No, it was a bad example. But either way, you understand my statement, that is enough.

Chompy · #17 11-09-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat

What I meant was that it's as stupid as anything to discriminate someone because of what operating system they're using. The black/asian was not needed though, I feel you. But I want you to understand.

Ah, ok. :o

cbk1994 · #18 11-09-2008, 07:15 PM

The in-game playerlist is not that bad when it's external, but its still very crappy in the version I have (right click doesn't work; middle click does?), hovering mouse over doesn't work unless you click inside, moving your mouse outside always brings up the tool tip, names don't refresh unless you put your mouse over it. However, I was told Stefan fixed these in the next version

Would also be nice if it could dock like on the Windows external playerlist.

The reason there are so few Mac users is because the current client sucks on Intel Macs, which almost every Mac user has. The new client will help a lot, assuming CJ can get the publicity/advertising.

The reason for so few Linux users is because virtually no gamers play Linux

Umat · #19 11-09-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

The reason for so few Linux users is because virtually no gamers play Linux

Say what? :P Get your facts straight, or don't open your mouth. The only reason there's less gamers that use linux is because most companies doesn't make their games for linux. I know lots of people who use Linux and play games. In fact, most of my friends are. It's not a problem at all to play Windows games on Linux if you know what you're doing. And you don't "play" Linux, you use Linux.

Felix_Xenophobe · #20 11-09-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat

That's a r***rded thing to say. That's like saying **** blacks and asians.

wat

Soala · #21 11-09-2008, 08:41 PM

External Playerlist should be updated also, I don't see why the ingame one got a mass message option while the external doesnt

I hate shift+scrolling all the list everytime I wanna send a mass.

Codein · #22 11-09-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by alexandralove

External Playerlist should be updated also, I don't see why the ingame one got a mass message option while the external doesnt

I hate shift+scrolling all the list everytime I wanna send a mass.

Shift + End

Felix_Xenophobe · #23 11-09-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein

Shift + End

this

xXziroXx · #24 11-09-2008, 09:01 PM

Ctrl + A tbh.

Crono · #25 11-09-2008, 09:26 PM

There's no point in crippling an already working Windows version in the name of platform compatibility. I've briefly used the version with external PM windows (yeah it's pretty sad we have to wait for something that was working fine years ago) and it's still not the same.

Even then, why does the Windows version have to have the far inferior in-game playerlist enabled by default?

Soala · #26 11-09-2008, 09:26 PM

eeh, didnt know that

Umat · #27 11-09-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

Even then, why does the Windows version have to have the far inferior in-game playerlist enabled by default?

Is it? That's just sad...

In my opinion Graal v2.31 was the far best version ever.

DustyPorViva · #28 11-09-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat

Is it? That's just sad...

In my opinion Graal v2.31 was the far best version ever.

I just wish they'd stop relying on the GUI systems. They're pretty damn ugly and I'd prefer a custom-made screen for stuff like signing on over a GUI any day.

Umat · #29 11-09-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I just wish they'd stop relying on the GUI systems. They're pretty damn ugly and I'd prefer a custom-made screen for stuff like signing on over a GUI any day.

I second that.

Crono · #30 11-09-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat

Is it? That's just sad...

In my opinion Graal v2.31 was the far best version ever.

I liked V4's playerlist + pm windows. Could have used an additional option here and there but much better than today's. :/

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I just wish they'd stop relying on the GUI systems. They're pretty damn ugly and I'd prefer a custom-made screen for stuff like signing on over a GUI any day.

Amen.

Umat · #31 11-09-2008, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

I liked V4's playerlist + pm windows. Could have used an additional option here and there but much better than today's. :/

Ah, forgot that v4 was a lot similiar to v2.3 that way. v5 is by far the worst version though. In many ways.

napo_p2p · #32 11-10-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Umat

Ah, forgot that v4 was a lot similiar to v2.3 that way. v5 is by far the worst version though. In many ways.

Nah, I think v3 was worse than v5.

Umat · #33 11-10-2008, 01:26 AM

Probably about the same.

Crono · #34 11-10-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by napo_p2p

Nah, I think v3 was worse than v5.

I liked the idea of v3 (the look of the serverlist etc) but the client itself didn't feel like it was Graal. The graphics seemed fuzzier, but the mouse cursor was kind of neat. I liked v4, but v5 was a horrible step. "They" think it's awesome though, so whatever.

Umat · #35 11-10-2008, 10:12 PM

v3 had a pretty classic kind of serverlist right? That was actually one good thing about it. :P

Crono · #36 11-10-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat

v3 had a pretty classic kind of serverlist right? That was actually one good thing about it. :P

Some old screen I took back then...(was on Windows 2000, what an ugly OS)

I have more somewhere but I can't find 'em.

DustyPorViva · #37 11-10-2008, 10:41 PM

I don't think I ever got v3 working properly for me. Either way, I was mostly gone around that time.

Umat · #38 11-10-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

Some old screen I took back then...(was on Windows 2000, what an ugly OS)

I have more somewhere but I can't find 'em.

About 2000, seconded.
And I think you can still can connect with the Graal v3 client to the serverlist although you get "You need to upgrade to v5.12 to play on this server"

cbk1994 · #39 11-10-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat

Ah, forgot that v4 was a lot similiar to v2.3 that way. v5 is by far the worst version though. In many ways.

I completely disagree. I still consider v5 to be the best version of Graal. Yes, there are things we don't like. The website, the login screen, observer mode, etc.

There are still tons of things that make v5 the best version so far. There were massive speed improvements on most servers for the Mac client (before Universal, when the Mac version began to run the same or better than Windows). There were scripting language improvements. Bug fixes. And many more things I can't think of.

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Originally Posted by Crono

Some old screen I took back then...(was on Windows 2000, what an ugly OS)

I have more somewhere but I can't find 'em.

I miss that screen.

Crono · #40 11-10-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

I still consider v5 to be the best version of Graal.

Stopped reading.