Problem with Iricia/Zone Idea thread

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Dante55555

rant

this explained it PERFECTLY!
if i could +rep you i would









i remember using my good old g18s & smg......


& i remember loading all the area around b5 and b1 with proximines, and then someone would come and set them ALL off, and id get so mad.

[Schetti]

I miss the events for perm weaps, I didnt see staffs hosting DS gun event(not DS for perm just DSgun) long time, or did they and I just wasnt on?

[Dante55555]

Originally Posted by Bline_spoted

Dante I'll help you out I like zone and I hope it get popular again and people respect how much hard work has been done to create zone I'm just one of those people that like to help out

Start posting ideas.

Originally Posted by Schetti

What about giving more exp to players if their team won?

Maybe

Or maybe you get the exp if you kill someone in the Iricia Jail?

No.

small exp bonus(1.x% more exp) for 1-2 minutes?

?

[RevolutionJS]

B1 should be more important When I played some years ago, The first thing you did was going to Base1 and take it over.
I think that that should come back , But you should get a reward then for take it over
Suggestions:
HP things so you can heal.
Ammo things where you can refill your ammo.
XP or Money when your team has it for Like 1 min.
Your bounty raises faster when your team got B1.
If anyone got more suggstions please post them ofcourse not all of this Suggestions should be added But I like to see some.

[Jesper]

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

B1 should be more important When I played some years ago, The first thing you did was going to Base1 and take it over.
I think that that should come back , But you should get a reward then for take it over
Suggestions:
HP things so you can heal.
Ammo things where you can refill your ammo.
XP or Money when your team has it for Like 1 min.
Your bounty raises faster when your team got B1.
If anyone got more suggstions please post them ofcourse not all of this Suggestions should be added But I like to see some.

Good ideas Revo, i like all these !

B1 must be importanter !

[Dante55555]

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

HP things so you can heal.

Be more specific.

Ammo things where you can refill your ammo.

Maybe.

Perhaps we could put a trader in there with select things for sale. He could only sell 3 medkits to each person per round and so on.

XP or Money when your team has it for Like 1 min.

No.

Your bounty raises faster when your team got B1.

No.

[RevolutionJS]

All clothes for Trials?

[Dante55555]

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

All clothes for Trials?

Nope. We enabled some new ones, though.

[Jesper]

Originally Posted by Dante55555

Nope. We enabled some new ones, though.

But there are some, enables for trials now

Like the russian hood

[RevolutionJS]

Originally Posted by Dante55555

Be more specific.

Hmm I mean A thing where you can stand in what you gives Hp to full + 10.
Or just to full.

[pico57]

Originally Posted by Jesper

But there are some, enables for trials now

Like the russian hood

lol yes.
now full of trials are using their new hat
they have the
-"fly helmet"
-"the Ghotsbuster helmet"
-and "the russian hat"

[pico57]

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

Hmm I mean A thing where you can stand in what you gives Hp to full + 10.
Or just to full.

that is " a kind of medic place " u mean?
u stay on and HP growing up faster... it is?

[Dante55555]

Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

Hmm I mean A thing where you can stand in what you gives Hp to full + 10.
Or just to full.

Maybe if it recovered slowly, but overall I'd say no.

If a large force occupied base 1 it'd be very difficult to take the base because they would keep running inside and using the "heal spot".

[Crono]

The problem isn't the map itself, it's the retards who play it now.

[RevolutionJS]

Originally Posted by Dante55555

Maybe if it recovered slowly, but overall I'd say no.

If a large force occupied base 1 it'd be very difficult to take the base because they would keep running inside and using the "heal spot".

It cost you 100 energy or you can only get 3 medics each round.
Maybe something like that?

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Crono

The problem isn't the map itself, it's the retards who play it now.

Right, but it isn't purely the retards. It's all the stupid weapons/updates in general.

Invisible proximity mines? What the hell, seriously?
Assault pistols? Dear God.
Photon Cannon? Let's not even go down that alley.

Then there were unprofessional rehashes of already-made guns. The red rifle was just a minor variation of the blue rifle, just as is the green rifle.

[bahamutstevetff]

uhh i was thinking of a turret system at each home-base that fired on the enemy team if they came within a certain radius of the enebmy base, i think it would solve base laming.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

uhh i was thinking of a turret system at each home-base that fired on the enemy team if they came within a certain radius of the enebmy base, i think it would solve base laming.

No, base laming doesn't need to be solved to such an extent. Base laming is extremely fun, but when people think the entire gameplay mechanics revolve around it, it becomes repetative and dull.

The only reason base laming was hard to keep up over a certain amount of time in the 'old' Zone, was because there were so many players online. They would just keep swarming into the teleporters, and since they were trials they didn't care for their death count and were determined to pick us off one by one, which is eventually what they did.

[DarkRenji]

Lol I miss when I would get in a fight with lets say 2 people, kill one... it was cool when they would tell you to use a medipack or w/e then go back-to-back and have a spar type fight.... people used to have.. I guess some type of honor not to lame the fk out of people, but now its all about the kills I guess

[Schetti]

Originally Posted by Schetti

A small exp bonus(1.x% more exp) for 1-2 minutes?

I meaned:
if my team "Took control of Iricia" Ill get an exp bonus for 1-2minutes.
Without bonus: I kill someone and get 2 exp.
With bonus: I kill someone and get 3exp.
So I get the half more as usually.

Maybe sounds crap at first, but we still could try.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Invisible proximity mines? What the hell, seriously?

Yeah this one was retarded and I've constantly been asking for it to be reverted. Maybe it finally will...

Assault pistols? Dear God.

Arctic was screwed before cash weapons came out.

Photon Cannon? Let's not even go down that alley.

Then there were unprofessional rehashes of already-made guns. The red rifle was just a minor variation of the blue rifle, just as is the green rifle.

Don't think these are part of the problem, to be honest.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Crono

Don't think these are part of the problem, to be honest.

Of course they are, they mark the decline of the staff's dedication to the server.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Of course they are, they mark the decline of the staff's dedication to the server.

Ok but they themselves don't have anything to do with why Arctic is failing.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Crono

Ok but they themselves don't have anything to do with why Arctic is failing.

Well as the staff have been allowed to get away with making these tatty pieces of work without any complaints, they've seen fit to continue.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Well as the staff have been allowed to get away with making these tatty pieces of work without any complaints, they've seen fit to continue.

Awesome.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Crono

Awesome.

Um, what?

[Dante55555]

Originally Posted by DarkRenji

Lol I miss when I would get in a fight with lets say 2 people, kill one... it was cool when they would tell you to use a medipack or w/e then go back-to-back and have a spar type fight.... people used to have.. I guess some type of honor not to lame the fk out of people, but now its all about the kills I guess

Exactly. You could idle on Iricia and usually not get lamed (there were noobs even then tho).

Spars were held all the time to settle differences, rather than scream "NOOB" at eachother. Altho...I do recall Jo and I spamming the team chat with our arguments when we were bored..

XD

Ahaha, remember how no one could admit they were actually killed fairly? They'd always say the same thing on teamchat right after getting killed: "lag".

[DarkRenji]

Originally Posted by Dante55555

Exactly. You could idle on Iricia and usually not get lamed (there were noobs even then tho).

Spars were held all the time to settle differences, rather than scream "NOOB" at eachother. Altho...I do recall Jo and I spamming the team chat with our arguments when we were bored..

XD

Ahaha, remember how no one could admit they were actually killed fairly? They'd always say the same thing on teamchat right after getting killed: "lag".

Yeah that sounds about right haha xd
I had so much fun back in those days though...
Like when everone would rush to Base1 right when the round started and build a lil base with box's to protect from the enemys and such

and lol when people used to glich chainguns in the dropship

[Dante55555]

I am not trying to make a "Old Zone revival" with this thread, though.

I stated already that it is impossible to bring Old Zone back because the thing that made it so great was the community. There were other things, I suppose, but all the Oldbies that have left could never be replaced. Awesome people like Shadox, Ace, Zidaine, Rykuz, juice, Gambet... they could never be replaced.

Let me say this very clearly so no one misunderstands me:

This is a thread to address problems that you as players have with Zone and what you think can be done to fix them.


I may have a couple flashbacks, Huwajux and I might have a little laugh about some of the good times we had in Old Zone, but this thread was not made in a attempt to try and "bring back the glory days".

[Nefir]

Well, even if I suck, I still am an oldbie and I can say, ''the glory days'' were that much glorious. I only got called a noob once, and it was because I kept trying to kill with a combatknife, not because I was bad, I was invited in guilds, but I sucked too much to know how to get in them, and money actually had a point. Pipes and gases, those were awesome to buy in packs and kill the bunker lamers, I remember, people managed to get inside the black part of B1 bunker and lamed with Chaingun and Mortar, and we waited for the other team to get B1, and when people warped or got inside, they were pwned, and it was so much fun...

We can't, we simply can't imagine how good those days were.
We can't, we simply can't bring back zone the way it was, as awesome it was, but can make it better than it is.

As suggestions, I agree, being a trial sucks hard when you have to cycle hours in your menu to access weapons, it's so glitchy too, every time I try to move with arrows, it's stuck for an unknown reason and I get killed, and it happens every time someone talks to the team, or when a base gets captured.

[Minomato]

The reason people don't play Iricia the way it was meant to be played is due to the fact that in that dimension, it was harder to get kills, and there was a long wait between getting more. Spawn camping not only gives more kills in general, but the supply, the victims, comes so fast, that there is virtually no waiting time. On another note, "winning" on Iricia presents a small reward, which as one advances in the ranks, becomes feeble, and useless to them. They want more kills, and they want them as quickly as possible to feed their bloodlust.

Originally Posted by Nefir

...and it happens every time someone talks to the team, or when a base gets captured.

That's due to a glitch caused by the messages at the bottom of the screen, and when someone gets a kill, the problem occurs again. It does that with PMing, too, and can be an annoyance, especially when you keep having to re-open the window because it messed up your typing or closed/sent it unfinished.

[Bline_spoted]

alright what if there were like things that stop the other enemy from coming into there HQ and the only way go get into the other persons base is to at least capture 10 or more bases but.....

There are somethings you need to give up for this too work such as the jet pack... now im not saying you need to get rid of the jetty you can always put gates around the outer HQ. Now say there were gates at the entrances of the HQ I made a gate graphic to give you an idea of what im saying.






Any other person who can do better or expand off this i courage them to do so.

So that's my idea ill think of more later



I hope this helped

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Minomato

The reason people don't play Iricia the way it was meant to be played is due to the fact that in that dimension, it was harder to get kills

In that 'dimension'?

[Nataxo]

Originally Posted by Bline_spoted

alright what if there were like things that stop the other enemy from coming into there HQ and the only way go get into the other persons base is to at least capture 10 or more bases but.....

There are somethings you need to give up for this too work such as the jet pack... now im not saying you need to get rid of the jetty you can always put gates around the outer HQ. Now say there were gates at the entrances of the HQ I made a gate graphic to give you an idea of what im saying.


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Any other person who can do better or expand off this i courage them to do so.

So that's my idea ill think of more later



I hope this helped

hmmm....i dont like this...:/

there was a automatic turret at HQ basea at iricia once (on debug) and it was EXTREMLY annoying

[XdNemesisXd]

I say bring old zone back! You can keep gleats but Stefan still makes money from other servers. Anyway jut get people to diffrent plants like hosnltyi culd care less about kills. I'm not really oldibe but I watched my bro play years ago and the community was much better. Well the Zone commuinty is starting to sucl. It's like lame lame lame and stuff. Make lamming inpossible or somtheing. Like block it off. Just bring old zone back and oldbies will come lol.Get rid of mouse unless its to move.

[AlexP_P]

Originally Posted by XdNemesisXd

I say bring old zone back! You can keep gleats but Stefan still makes money from other servers. Anyway jut get people to diffrent plants like hosnltyi culd care less about kills. I'm not really oldibe but I watched my bro play years ago and the community was much better. Well the Zone commuinty is starting to sucl. It's like lame lame lame and stuff. Make lamming inpossible or somtheing. Like block it off. Just bring old zone back and oldbies will come lol.Get rid of mouse unless its to move.

Suck*? XD

well,you have a good point but the old Zone was not as popular as the new zone.....
i think that Zone became famous only because the gelat weapons..
bu-bu-but why??!

i don't really know why it became famous by the gelats but stefan made big bucks with the gelats for some reason...

i am an oldie actually because i still have Graal2001 in my old pc
but i don't play zone for such a long time, but if i was there on zone when they got the gelat weapons working i would quit Zone forever because i believe that most of the gelat weapons were in the trader like the photon, the jet pack, etc.....

but they got changed for one month on the gelat shop ¬¬
i wouldn't mind this so much if they would still be permanent but.........no, they were FOR ONE month!

just like the cool event weapons ¬¬

i wish the old Zone came back.....

[Nefir]

Originally Posted by AlexP_P

Suck*? XD

well,you have a good point but the old Zone was not as popular as the new zone.....
i think that Zone became famous only because the gelat weapons..
bu-bu-but why??!

i don't really know why it became famous by the gelats but stefan made big bucks with the gelats for some reason...

i am an oldie actually because i still have Graal2001 in my old pc
but i don't play zone for such a long time, but if i was there on zone when they got the gelat weapons working i would quit Zone forever because i believe that most of the gelat weapons were in the trader like the photon, the jet pack, etc.....

but they got changed for one month on the gelat shop ¬¬
i wouldn't mind this so much if they would still be permanent but.........no, they were FOR ONE month!

just like the cool event weapons ¬¬

i wish the old Zone came back.....

It's better that Gelat weapons are for one month tough, think about it, I played alot of time to get all my weapons, I got all the weapons that were available before V5, Photon, JP, RR, BR, and even all the holiday weapons (Not the package's ones tough). And now, if someone has the money, he buys gelat, and he buys the weapons. If he has enough money, he buys all of the weapons, and they're all permanent. So, in less than five minutes, some dude can have everything we worked for in hours, forever. And other lame things too.

As for events weapons, I agree. Honestly, I don't think they seem to be hosted more often, I think they are hosted at the same rate. And if I were to win an event weapon, I'd want it to be permanent, because the players are too selfish to understand the rules and as soon as the ET dosen't look, the guy runs away, then come back with his friends to gang on me. Or I get teamed and lamed by some guy who dosen't even understand english, or understand half of it, and then pretends to the ET he didn't understand. Like some people here on these forums ¬.¬

[Dante55555]

Originally Posted by Nefir

because the players are too selfish to understand the rules and as soon as the ET dosen't look, the guy runs away, then come back with his friends to gang on me.

Can up the amount of ETs in weapon events, but keep in mind it is very difficult to monitor that many players at once.

[Nefir]

Originally Posted by Dante55555

Can up the amount of ETs in weapon events, but keep in mind it is very difficult to monitor that many players at once.




That never stops me. I kick them even if they don't understand what I'm saying.

I never blamed the ETs tough. I know it has to be hard for you guys, mostly with all those reports and fake reports of what happened/who teamed and stuff.

[Dante55555]

I don't care about your experiences as FAQs on Era.

Originally Posted by Dante55555

I will be extremely strict on posts in here. Here are the things I will be looking for:

*Posts that actually make sense and have relatively acceptable grammar. i dnt wnt to sort threw psts liek this.
*I want you to post what you feel is wrong with Zone, but I don't want you to post something stupid like "gelat noobs need to die" or something. Problems like the problem with Iricia may be listed.
*List a problem. You are not required to actually post a solution to your problem, but you may bring it up as a topic of discussion.
*Posts that have constructive criticism. No outright flaming will be tolerated.
*DO NOT POST PROBLEMS WITH A STAFF MEMBER IN THIS THREAD. If it is something you are truly concerned about PM Daniel or myself.

Keep on topic, please.