New Gang?

[Crono]

Meph's lack of reference to the Morano Family (best example of the newer gangs in my opinion) is a bit disappointing.

I think gang guns should only have aesthetic differences compared to more common guns. For example I remember BB had an M4 at one point, it should have performed the same as the M16. Morano Thomspon should have performed like the AK47, the BHer should have performed like an AP7, etc.

Just a quick thought.

[Meph]

Originally Posted by Crono

Meph's lack of reference to the Morano Family (best example of the newer gangs in my opinion) is a bit disappointing.

Dazzle me.
Prove to me that Morano is more than just a bunch of people with hats, a small base, and a thompson.

[DazJenova]

Morano used to have a structure and that RP act to it, now it's just a bunch of people what meph said.

[Spikedude]

The Morano Thompson was untaglocked.

Oh, and guys, there's a Gang Application out on Era. It's on the news tab. Due Friday, 10/17/08. You MAY submit old gangs.

[Frankie]

No offense, but making an application was a real dumb idea. First off, I find it kind of insulting that under my control, I told you we were going to leave it at 3 gangs, for a good reason too. Now that I'm gone you go off and make one just because you can. There's no reason at all to upload a new gang.

No matter what, the gang is going to fail. After a few weeks the hype will be gone and nobody is going to give a **** about them anymore. History repeats itself.

I don't mean to criticize you so harshly, but this shouldn't be happening.

One thing I have to say if you do go through with this (although I strongly suggest you just leave it alone and not do this x.x)
Do not give the new gang a gang gun

Refunding money is flawed and having to un-taglock the gun is just stupid.

Just my opinion.

[Yocas]

Would having 4 gangs be repeating history?

[Frankie]

No.

Uploading a gang and a few weeks later being deleted would be repeating history. The gang system needs a total re-haul before new gangs are brought back. Amsel is going to do nothing but waste time right now.

[Spikedude]

The gang app is allowing people to resubmit old gangs as well, so that will be an advantage to anyone who resubmits an old gang. The main reason for raising it up to four gangs IS the fact that we're trying to waste time, especially now that management changed when we were actually getting close to the reset. Now we need to kill at least an extra week, and probably a lot more, while keeping players busy on something or another. This adds a little bit of excitement, plus more people will start getting involved in the gangs and keep themselves entertained that way. It isn't a crack at your management, I didn't say "oh hey, frankie's gone, let's undo everything he did" it was just my idea and TSA approved it while you didn't.

[Frankie]

letting old gangs being revived is just stupid. morano's reputation was completely ruined because people wouldn't let it die and kept bringing it back just to fail again. people now remember morano as the gang that sucked ass. not the gang that was really awesome to be in back in the day, lol.

[natchez416]

what ever, who cares. Give the players something to do while we wait for the reset.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Meph

Dazzle me.
Prove to me that Morano is more than just a bunch of people with hats, a small base, and a thompson.

-Unique theme.

The base had a cozy mansion type of look as opposed to the other industrial-type gang bases. Members were always dressed up in suits with only some colors allowed for the coat/shoes and had to somewhat RP their characters. The only gang I've seen on Era that had a consistent theme, hats were a plus.

-Unique gang-gun

Self explanatory, no other gun on Era (from what I've seen) has a gani where it is contained, let alone toggled from it's contained mode (in a guitarcase) to ready mode (out of the case and in your hands). The gun itself fit with the mafia theme and guitarcase is something I've never seen on any other game I've played.

-Ranking system

It took me a week of being around Morano members and idling outside their base to finally be accepted. I had to be chosen amongst a few others for the Bodyguard position and was never promoted for the few months it was running in spring/summer 2006.

[Sinkler]

The problem with Morano Family is that the leaders have lacked capabilities. They hire their friends, a lot of high ranked people paid for their spot (Wil Soul, honestly, he has no RP capabilities and he was a Godfather, but then removed so he's not really a Morano anymore.)
I've joined Morano each time, as a member, but it always fails, leaders fail, recruiters fail. They all expect to be respected when they fail.

It's really bothersome how people want a gang that has failed over 3 times these past two years, and they're still addicted to having it back. This isn't how Morano should be, this is how a GANG should me, and Morano is NOT a gang, it's a family, and should be treated so.

-Gabriel

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Sinkler

The problem with Morano Family is that the leaders have lacked capabilities. They hire their friends, a lot of high ranked people paid for their spot (Wil Soul, honestly, he has no RP capabilities and he was a Godfather, but then removed so he's not really a Morano anymore.)
I've joined Morano each time, as a member, but it always fails, leaders fail, recruiters fail. They all expect to be respected when they fail.

Ok so the problem doesn't lie within the gang itself but the ones who end up as leaders.

It's really bothersome how people want a gang that has failed over 3 times these past two years, and they're still addicted to having it back. This isn't how Morano should be, this is how a GANG should me, and Morano is NOT a gang, it's a family, and should be treated so.

The gang didn't fail, the leaders did. Morano Family is still technically a "gang".

[Spikedude]

Was Morano even a last name before the gang came out?

And I never said Morano was coming back, I'm basing it off the applications. Wil Soul submitted a Morano application yesterday that wasn't like, stunning.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Spikedude

Wil Soul

Needs to have nothing to do with Morano Family. From what I remember he was just a skilled pker who was let in just for that reason.

[Dark_Zeratul101]

What's the point of adding another gang if all of the gangs have lost their characteristics? It'll just add another gang for people to hop to (which is not good!). The only way to solve that problem is to scrap all gangs and assign staff to create their own gangs and do whatever they want with it. I know it worked before in the beginning of Era so why not? Adding another gang will just eventually get them deleted when you consider the huge amount of examples (Scelus Family, Brotherhood, Mongrel Mob, etc.)

Also please quit hyping Morano Family, don't say it's unique because they have uniforms (Black Holst, Panther International, Rubeus Syndicate, Los Carteles have done), have "cool" weapons that fit their "style" (PI, PPA, Era Underground, ERA MAFIA, Black Holst deserves a mention because they had the first gang weapon ever and there was a BUNCH of unfinished weapons that sadly never came to exist) has strict recruiting regulations (Black Holst after I was fired and before Kae owned it, PI, PPA, Tachi.... AHAHAHA JUST KIDDING) and please don't spew that "structure" BS (because I know that Black Holst, Rubeus Syndicate, Los Carteles had both a unique and original structure). Also did you know that MF wasn't the only one that RPed? Wellll now you know!

Although it would be nice to give Seara her gang back

[Shotoo2]

Originally Posted by Spikedude

Was Morano even a last name before the gang came out?

And I never said Morano was coming back, I'm basing it off the applications. Wil Soul submitted a Morano application yesterday that wasn't like, stunning.

I'm sure he expects it to be approved just because it's Morano.

[Gambet1337]

dont bring back MF
it fails everytime we bring it back

[Freudian_slip]

MF was a Family before it became a gang.

[spikekid]

I was talking to someone and they had a good idea about maybe after the reset if the G-Map is redone each gang would be on its own island, and then maybe a mainland.

[Aldaris]

Originally Posted by spikekid

I was talking to someone and they had a good idea about maybe after the reset if the G-Map is redone each gang would be on its own island, and then maybe a mainland.

Yeah, that was me xD.

To add to it, each island would have it's own theme (Rural, Urban, Shoalin, etc..)

I think having more themed related gangs would help players decide which gang is right for them. I know that when I was a new player, I wanted to join Tachi because I was into that kind of stuff.

[Shotoo2]

The bases are enough for that. The gangs don't need their own islands (this isn't GK).

[natchez416]

I like everything about your idea. But I don't think id go to the extent of putting each base on its own island.

Don't know how many times Ive said this but the city needs to be divided up into areas such as downtown, china town, little Italy, China Town, slums. Each base should be placed in the section of the city that best represents its theme. For example Morano = Little Italy.
So yes, the surrounding areas of each base should have that gangs theme. I agree with that. But Islands don't seem necessary to me.

-Get a gang of Gats and get them working on custom tiles for each section of the city.
-just my 2 cents.

[Shotoo2]

Originally Posted by natchez416

I like everything about your idea. But I don't think id go to the extent of putting each base on its own island.

Don't know how many times Ive said this but the city needs to be divided up into areas such as downtown, china town, little Italy, China Town, slums. Each base should be placed in the section of the city that best represents its theme. For example Morano = Little Italy.
So yes, the surrounding areas of each base should have that gangs theme. I agree with that. But Islands don't seem necessary to me.

-Get a gang of Gats and get them working on custom tiles for each section of the city.
-just my 2 cents.

Asiatown is in the near future as far as I'm concerned.

[Vman13x]

so basically they need to make the gmap bigger to fit all that stuff in cause right now era is really small

[Shotoo2]

Originally Posted by Vman13x

so basically they need to make the gmap bigger to fit all that stuff in cause right now era is really small

Era's gigantic right now actually. The current gmap is 19x21 levels.

[Frankie]

try more like 12x18
the 21 might be right but i'm 100% sure it is not 19 levels wide. it's about 11 or 12.

[Yocas]

Originally Posted by Vman13x

so basically they need to make the gmap bigger to fit all that stuff in cause right now era is really small

Why would Era need to be bigger when majority of the players are screwing around at "unstick me" leaving 90 percent of the map unoccupied?




That's how it is even with 95 players online.

[Aldaris]

I just think that more uses need to be made out of the gmap. The whole north section (Above DD and SP) is basically pointless. We don't need oxygen on Era, so I don't see why there is so many trees.

Gang islands anybody?

[Yocas]

Originally Posted by Aldaris

Gang islands anybody?

It's just going to end up like GK and their pointless Kingdom islands; no population and waste of space.

[Vman13x]

well gang islands would be pointless and really whenever an old gang comes back staff ends up running it like *****o family icarus ended up being the don wtf?

[Vman13x]

and wtf why bring back *****o family?that gang always comes back and it ends up being deleted a few weeks later

[Aldaris]

I don't agree with MF returning. I believe it should be put to rest, along with all the other great Era memories. I think that a futuristic style gang should be added, or a pirate gang. Call me crazy, but I think that they would both be successful in their own respect.

[Shotoo2]

Originally Posted by Aldaris

I don't agree with MF returning. I believe it should be put to rest, along with all the other great Era memories. I think that a futuristic style gang should be added, or a pirate gang. Call me crazy, but I think that they would both be successful in their own respect.

I disagree with those themes, lol.

We need gangs with themes that are realistic in a modern environment.

[natchez416]

Originally Posted by Shotoo2

I disagree with those themes, lol.

We need gangs with themes that are realistic in a modern environment.

Yes !

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Shotoo2

We need gangs with themes that are realistic in a modern environment.

Like what, though?

[Yocas]

Originally Posted by Aldaris

I don't agree with MF returning. I believe it should be put to rest, along with all the other great Era memories. I think that a futuristic style gang should be added, or a pirate gang. Call me crazy, but I think that they would both be successful in their own respect.

Wow. I don't mean to be mean but I lol'd so hard when I read this.

[Crono]

How about one with a bunch of nerds who use remote control helicopters packed with explosives.
just realized GTA:SA beat me to this, god damnit.

[Aldaris]

Originally Posted by Yocas

Wow. I don't mean to be mean but I lol'd so hard when I read this.

I was just giving out ideas. I forgot, having a Russian style gang wen't over so well...

And having modern-day gangs would go over nicely, but the theme selection is just missing. I for one am not the type of player who will say "Yes, I am now in Los Carteles, I am never going to leave!"

Which is why I believe gang hopping occurs. A sense of boredom is found when players don't enjoy the themes. You can easily find that Era players love to role-play. Just look at everybody wanting the Morano Thompson and Morano Hat.

[spikekid]

Originally Posted by Crono

Like what, though?

Like the one I'm submitting