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Old 09-25-2008, 03:23 AM
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Events are hosted to break up the routine, but they are also so consistent that they actually make up the need for new content. There has not been any "new" content other than the mini event planets and platform. It would be great to see a new map, and as seen from the F8 Graal news, Zone Bunker is coming soon!
The routine of killing? That's the point of the server. Events is the only thing keeping Zone alive and you need that. Here's a mass message from Dan
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I'm going to finish the bunker map tonight or tomorrow, which means it will be added within a few days (or next week)! There will be a helicopter on it probally. A jeep will be decoration first but can be driven by 2 players later on!
Since it's a mass, I do believe i'm allowed to post it? So where's the bunker map? Oh i know. Nothing on Graal gets released as planned. They say they're fixing the bugs. But they're not.



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I think Zone's playercount may be in part sustained by the events, but there is actual game play for those who do not participate in the events. I think Nataxo is dead on by saying the events are basically a form of fresh air.
I think Zone's playercount is nothing but events. They only time they do something else is when a event isn't being hosted. Which that leaves like 5-6 people on iricia. Sure alot of people!

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The management before was pretty much non existent. Vulcan was manager until around December of 2006 and resigned sometime in the few months after? (Crono would probably know for sure I don't remember the exact dates) and the management was between Crono and Huwajux. Huwajux got the position as ETA (I believe?) and then Dan was hired to manage (10-25-2007) because we still lacked a manger, unless ETA's acted as manager? I never really understood that situation. Right before Dan took over, Vulcan was still helping out on debug and was developing content with Crono. I don't think it would be fair to say that they didn't provide updates, they just provided large updates (Aspar, Gwars) very rarely as opposed to the new mini updates (Snowrace, Jumprace, Lava Event, Platform)
Yet, people who were actually there would prefer to have that back. I even want it back. You know how Vulcan and me are. Huwajux got it from Crono either refusing it(?) or because that Crono was inactive. I'm not sure on that part. Might of been because they could trust Huwajux more. Aspar sucked, and Gwars dropship sucked. All that was a recolor and they took Zone Wars map for the idea of Gwars. Those mini updates are over-hosted. You've even said this yourself. I find it complete bull**** that Zone needs events to keep it alive. I would prefer mindless idiots looking for a cyber girlfriend UN for Zone then it being depended on events that are over hosted to keep people on Zone.

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At before our management I believe they lacked scripting help, seeing as the only help was provided from Stefan and possibly gambet? Little was able to be done with minimal experience of the debug workers with scripts (I guess?)and Stefan's inability to hand feed them and complete scripts for them.
Stefan could of actually listen to us for once? Zone didn't have updates because Stefan didn't listen one bit to the players. Vulcan was the manager back then, HE could of hired a scripter to help out, But did he? No. It's not just Stefan inability to hand feed them. Infact, it's not HIS JOB to do all the stuff for Zone. His job is to make sure everything runs smoothand eat pizza

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The best thing to say would be that each management has its own different style and just because you do not prefer the type of management that is currently being provided, does not mean that updates are not given to Zone. We just lack the larger high quality updates and instead receive somewhat less quality mini updates over an extended period of time. Perhaps some of the new content will be permanent, but as far as permanent content goes there is already quite a bit and to add something new would most likely require removing other content. That might be why events are relied upon so heavily.
I wasn't even saying i didn't like the updates, I love that they're updating Zone. I hate the quality of the work. It takes that long to make a map, Yet. They can't beat iricia? They tried improving iricia, And it upset alot of people, And we only got it changed back with a *** map a few weeks/ a month(s) ago. Perhaps we put everything that was in the Zone shop before V5 BACK IN IT, and SWITCH IT AROUND. One Gelat, One shop, One gelat, One shop. etc. Events are relied on to make the server what it is.

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The events system before now did not work because we had a significant lack of players who did not have much skill (Myself included) who were able to win simply because all of the other more skilled players won their permanent weapons and were not allowed to participate in events. Now events are more constant because there are mini prizes and now they can much more easily control the number of event weapons in circulation because permanent weapons could and most likely did have a long lasting effect. The current event weapons are special to a degree but with lack of new weapons with new unique twists and turns provided, the weekend event weapons are not as rare as they were in past times.
Which brings us to the old saying "You want, You earn it". I hope i don't have to explain this to you. The mini prizes are ok. But it's hosted WAY TO DAMN MUCH. Zone's degree to put out weapons is to making them insanly weak or over powered. They can't balence anything for **** and you know that. They're not as rare because one of them is hosted every weekend. I'm about to get a crew together, Make new accounts and have everyone chip into a paypal account and buy Graal accounts and ruin events by winning them over and over. After all, It stacks and it's fair. We're not breaking no rules are we?
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:33 AM
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Stefan and Dan are about to upload Bunker. they where gonna do this before but it couldnt be done for some reasons i wont discuss about.

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Old 09-25-2008, 03:41 AM
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Stefan and Dan are about to upload Bunker. they where gonna do this before but it couldnt be done for some reasons i wont discuss about.
Aww, ran into a bug?
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:10 PM
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I was always just an ET. I was hired after Huwajux, he was higher on the food-chain so to speak.

In 2006, I think it was, Vulcan and I started to work on a new map but we lost motivation.
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:04 PM
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I was always just an ET. I was hired after Huwajux, he was higher on the food-chain so to speak.

In 2006, I think it was, Vulcan and I started to work on a new map but we lost motivation.
What the hell? Where did that come from?
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:06 PM
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What the hell? Where did that come from?
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Huwajux got it from Crono either refusing it(?) or because that Crono was inactive. I'm not sure on that part. Might of been because they could trust Huwajux more.
Also just confirmed/cleared stuff Supernanny was saying.
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:46 PM
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I don't know if you were saying there are certain qualities of a PvP server that Zone lacks, or if you were suggesting they be added. Either way we don't have missions, aside from the objectives on each planet, and the objectives on each planet are usually ignored to base lame.

Events are hosted to break up the routine, but they are also so consistent that they actually make up the need for new content. There has not been any "new" content other than the mini event planets and platform. It would be great to see a new map, and as seen from the F8 Graal news, Zone Bunker is coming soon!
with "missions" i mean objectives. sorry =P
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:12 PM
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My bad:



Also just confirmed/cleared stuff Supernanny was saying.
Oh ok.
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:22 PM
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You're not funny. You're not cool. You're a waste of space and your opinions are idiotic. None of your counterarguments make sense and you just repeat the same thing over and over.

We do our best with what we have. The bunker map is uploaded and is being released in the next 30 minutes. Have a nice day.

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Old 10-06-2008, 09:27 PM
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So even though Zone is a event server, and your denying it which is completely idiotiac. Which is what i've been stating because all your agurements is "Is not" without stating any facts. So, please. Try to use some facts and not just "YOU JOHN YOU FAIL AT EVERYTHING" logic shall we?

Oh and that's how LONG after what Dan said it was going to be released? Really, if you guys can't dish out on the release date. Don't expect people to take anything seriously. I accept that there is the occasonial delays, But everytime is a no.
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Old 10-06-2008, 09:38 PM
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So even though Zone is a event server, and your denying it which is completely idiotiac. Which is what i've been stating because all your agurements is "Is not" without stating any facts. So, please. Try to use some facts and not just "YOU JOHN YOU FAIL AT EVERYTHING" logic shall we?

Oh and that's how LONG after what Dan said it was going to be released? Really, if you guys can't dish out on the release date. Don't expect people to take anything seriously. I accept that there is the occasonial delays, But everytime is a no.
My God just go jump off a cliff, please. We've all had enough of you, whether you think your right or wrong.
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Old 10-06-2008, 09:48 PM
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"So even though Zone is a event server, and your denying it which is completely idiotiac."

Where did I say that it's not? Why would I care? As long as people have fun and enjoy Zone I don't care what classification you make for it.


"Which is what i've been stating because all your agurements is "Is not" without stating any facts."

You don't make sense. "All your arguments is 'is not'". Did you mean "All your arguments are 'is not'?"

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand John talk.

"So, please. Try to use some facts and not just 'YOU JOHN YOU FAIL AT EVERYTHING' logic shall we?"

Ah, here's where John tries to sound mature.

I am using facts. The fact is, you're an ignorant fool.


Prove me wrong.

"Oh and that's how LONG after what Dan said it was going to be released? Really, if you guys can't dish out on the release date. Don't expect people to take anything seriously."

Don't expect people to take you seriously or even understand you if your grammar is equivalent to that of a preschooler.

Why are you putting periods in between your statements? How is. This making sense. ?

"I accept that there is the occasonial delays, But everytime is a no."

...?

Ok, so you basically said what I was going to say. There were delays, there were problems. Have you ever made an entire map by yourself? Scripted every little last detail, made every last graphic? Have you ever experienced the difficulties and complications that can arise during the creation of them?

Is that a no?

Then stop talking. I've wasted more than enough time on you. In my eyes, I have revealed you for the bumbling idiot you truly are. Because of that, I have no reason to bother myself with this thread again.

Enjoy rationalizing everything I'm saying away, surrounding yourself with a veil of ignorance and convincing yourself that I'm wrong, that reality is fake and that the world revolves around you and your opinions.

Get a grip.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:00 PM
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Where did I say that it's not? Why would I care? As long as people have fun and enjoy Zone I don't care what classification you make for it.
Staff in general.

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You don't make sense. "All your arguments is 'is not'". Did you mean "All your arguments are 'is not'?"
Here's some "Zone isn't a event server! Zone is totaly a PvP Server where we just break the routine every 10 minutes!

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Ah, here's where John tries to sound mature.
Act? Really? That's all i've been seeing. I haven't seen anything that would of even proven me wrong besides getting told "Your an ignorant fool. Your a *****, **** and gtfo" for my past actions.



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Don't expect people to take you seriously or even understand you if your grammar is equivalent to that of a preschooler. Why are you putting periods in between your statements? How is. This making sense. ?
Sorry that i'm in the age group Graal is aiming for!

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Ok, so you basically said what I was going to say. There were delays, there were problems. Have you ever made an entire map by yourself? Scripted every little last detail, made every last graphic? Have you ever experienced the difficulties and complications that can arise during the creation of them?
So Dan did the scripting, and made every graphic? I'll believe that when i see a video of him doing so.


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Then stop talking. I've wasted more than enough time on you. In my eyes, I have revealed you for the bumbling idiot you truly are. Because of that, I have no reason to bother myself with this thread again.
Didn't you leave the forums 2 weeks back?

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Enjoy rationalizing everything I'm saying away, surrounding yourself with a veil of ignorance and convincing yourself that I'm wrong, that reality is fake and that the world revolves around you and your opinions.
Do you really believe i think that? You know as much as i do. I use to love Zone to death since i'm what you would consider a "no life" i would play Graal when i got home from school to when i went to bed. I supported Zone in it's decision's until it started sucking horribly. I was one of the few that stayed on Zone during that whole "No update" time. So don't you even think that. I'm stating what i think is right, and i get called an idiotiac/ignorant *****, and you wonder why i act like this? Maybe it's from all the bull**** i've had to endure. [/QUOTE]
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:12 PM
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Argh, Jesse please just delete everything John has said and everything Dante has had to counteract with.

And delete this post too when you're done.
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I'm unsticking this thread, Bunker has been released and so has the automated planet thing.

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Argh, Jesse please just delete everything John has said and everything Dante has had to counteract with.
I think the thread will die down now. I'd imagine Dante is getting bored of owning John and won't reply to his childish crys much longer.
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This thread can still be used for future updates.
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You're not funny. You're not cool. You're a waste of space and your opinions are idiotic. None of your counterarguments make sense and you just repeat the same thing over and over.

We do our best with what we have. The bunker map is uploaded and is being released in the next 30 minutes.

Have a nice day.
He may be a jackass, or whatever, but its true, events are one of the only things keeping Zone alive, and these small updates, their is nothing to that really keeps players interested in Zone, other servers have endless amount of things to do, Zone is just to kill, each other, and thats about it...

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Too bad you can't enjoy it because your PC ID, your IP and your account have all been permanently banned from Zone.
And you should know by now even though you are an admin on the Server, you should not discuss bans on the forums for any reason, and that statement was uncalled for really, their was no point of it, but to be a direct insult, and and what I call being a "jack***".
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:03 AM
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Guys I'm closing this for a while until you can keep cool heads. If you can not flame or attack each other or not violate the forum rules, I'll reopen this.
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