Hosted Promotion: Atrius: Final Stand

[DarkReaper0]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

I don't know who you mean by Co-Owner but do you mean the Co-Manager?

No, he means the the events admin

[CharlieM]

We dont have an ETA

[Sinkler]

I think he was kidding, Charlie.

Also to Chris's post,
Atrius's Economy:
A) Better than Era's by far.
B) Businesses are taxed (or will be soon.)
C) They've developed a political system as well as an Economic Council (That Era is lacking and SERIOUSLY needs.)
D) Atrius staff is not as mean as Erian staff (Maybe a few staff are a little mean, but it's a big + compared to Era's staff.)
E) Finally, they actually have development. They're working hard to make Atrius the best.

So Chris, if you hate Atrius, that's fine. But, Atrius is working their tuchus off to do their best work.

Thank you,
Gabriel

[DarkRenji]

I logged on cause I saw 32 players today, Well turns out like 17 where staff and RCs o.o

[xAzerothx]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

I don't know who you mean by Co-Owner but do you mean the Co-Manager?

I thought it was Co-Owner, must of been Co-Manager.

You all know who I'm talking about anyways.

[Nataxo]

Originally Posted by DarkRenji

I logged on cause I saw 32 players today, Well turns out like 17 where staff and RCs o.o

xD!!!!!

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Sinkler

I think he was kidding, Charlie.

Also to Chris's post,
Atrius's Economy:
A) Better than Era's by far.
B) Businesses are taxed (or will be soon.)
C) They've developed a political system as well as an Economic Council (That Era is lacking and SERIOUSLY needs.)
D) Atrius staff is not as mean as Erian staff (Maybe a few staff are a little mean, but it's a big + compared to Era's staff.)
E) Finally, they actually have development. They're working hard to make Atrius the best.

So Chris, if you hate Atrius, that's fine. But, Atrius is working their tuchus off to do their best work.

Thank you,
Gabriel

You still miss the point. Regardless of if something does something better than Era, it still won't work. Many of Utopia's later systems were far better than Era's, but there was no chance that Utopia would ever be made a Hosted server, let alone a Classic server.

Atrius has to do more than simply improve the quality of the server. It also needs to start offering an entirely different style of gaming on Graal than Era does. We don't need another Era, even if it is slightly better.

Please get it out of your head that I hate Atrius. If I hated the server, I wouldn't have taken the time to give them suggestions to improve their server.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Sinkler

I think he was kidding, Charlie.

Also to Chris's post,
Atrius's Economy:
A) Better than Era's by far.
C) They've developed a political system as well as an Economic Council (That Era is lacking and SERIOUSLY needs.)
D) Atrius staff is not as mean as Erian staff (Maybe a few staff are a little mean, but it's a big + compared to Era's staff.)
E) Finally, they actually have development. They're working hard to make Atrius the best.

So Chris, if you hate Atrius, that's fine. But, Atrius is working their tuchus off to do their best work.

Thank you,
Gabriel

All of those, except B) are your (obviously biased) opinions.

[WarLord2004]

Why say another era? or something simular to it well i visit this playerworld about 4 times since it came out yes the guns alone would remind you of era but if your speaking about era what about zone?

And since we are trying to related most of the servers now i guess Valikaloria is like Gk and then Zodiac is the best copy? What people are looking at right now are the top theme based games the hottest hits on ps3 xbox pc ...ect are infact Shooters and RPG so even if Graal servers has copy the same material it should not be such of a big deal.

Am pretty sure no still plays duck hunt but rather player cod4 ...
So if a graal server think they can top the duck hunt server = era
why not let them try?

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by WarLord2004

Why say another era? or something simular to it well i visit this playerworld about 4 times since it came out yes the guns alone would remind you of era but if your speaking about era what about zone?

Zone is greatly different than Era. If you can't find these differences for yourself, I suggest playing each server for at least forty-five seconds.

And since we are trying to related most of the servers now i guess Valikaloria is like Gk and then Zodiac is the best copy? What people are looking at right now are the top theme based games the hottest hits on ps3 xbox pc ...ect are infact Shooters and RPG so even if Graal servers has copy the same material it should not be such of a big deal.

GK, Valikorlia, Zodiac ... they are all different. No one said there can't be two modern servers ... you just have to make unique modern servers.

Am pretty sure no still plays duck hunt but rather player cod4 ...

Call of Duty can only hope to one day match Duck Hunt.

So if a graal server think they can top the duck hunt server = era
why not let them try?

They can try. That doesn't mean they shouldn't listen to feedback. As it is right now, Atrius has nearly the exact same focus as Era: get money to buy guns/ammo to PK others on an overworld.

Do I really need to point out differences between Duck Hunt and Call of Duty?

[xAzerothx]

Duck Hunt is awesome. I'm not very good but I can get like 300k points or something like that.

[TheJames]

Originally Posted by DarkRenji

I logged on cause I saw 32 players today, Well turns out like 17 where staff and RCs o.o

Yea this is false. What the hell are you talking about kid?

There isnt even 8 staff to double and call 16 staff? Your mental. Wow lol. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20 .

Learn your numerical system again pal.

Chris I had respect for you untill you started bashing Atrius to such an extent. Like for real?

Houdini please close this, all it is is a bashing thread that Chris has taken over. If you disagree so god damned much Chris why the hell even post?

[thesmoothcriminal]

Warlord2004 you are wrong. Play graal a little more and you will see why. no offense lol.

TheJames, this thread shouldnt be closed. Your really taking this the wrong way. There is a treasure trove of ideas here for your server. Incorporate them. According the first post by Houdini

P.S. I'm sure the Atrius team is eager to hear your impressions of the server, but please keep all comments constructive! Non-helpful comments will be removed.

Our impressions and comments are welcome, and apparently you are (or at least should be) eager to hear them. Also im sick of people getting threads closed because it didnt turn out they way they hoped. Its not fair that one person ruins it for all.If its really a problem just delete chris posts. problem solved. i like others are eager to see the changes that are being implemented and the players impressions.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Sinkler

I think he was kidding, Charlie.

Also to Chris's post,
Atrius's Economy:
A) Better than Era's by far.
B) Businesses are taxed (or will be soon.)
C) They've developed a political system as well as an Economic Council (That Era is lacking and SERIOUSLY needs.)
D) Atrius staff is not as mean as Erian staff (Maybe a few staff are a little mean, but it's a big + compared to Era's staff.)
E) Finally, they actually have development. They're working hard to make Atrius the best.

So Chris, if you hate Atrius, that's fine. But, Atrius is working their tuchus off to do their best work.

Thank you,
Gabriel

a) when you're managing an economy of a player base of like, 20, it's much easier. when you have 150 - 200 different players that play Era, it's a lot harder to manage the economy. you guys wouldn't know that because you've never made it past hosted. don't even try comparing the economy.

b) we have taxes too. we just don't tax items from a certain price. this way businesses aren't screwed over.

c) Era doesn't need a political system. It's the dumbest idea ever to be thought to put on Era.

d) I'm sure most Atrius staff are used to having not many players on the server, therefor a lot more abuse.

e) so do we, but people like you are too ignorant to realize that.

[xXziroXx]

Yeah, you can't call your economy stable until you've actively had 200+ different players every day for a couple of months. If it's still stable after that, then you may call it stable. For the moment anyways.

[thesmoothcriminal]

Its called Free market. it always works its self out.

[CharlieM]

We keep our economy stable because we check all of the logs everyday at 3:00PM Eastern Time. So if someone has found a way to abuse getting money, we deal with the person and anyone they may have given money to, and the problem.

[Chompy]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

We keep our economy stable because we check all of the logs everyday at 3:00PM Eastern Time. So if someone has found a way to abuse getting money, we deal with the person and anyone they may have given money to, and the problem.

That's just words though.

It's actually dumb to compare the economy at Atrius with the economy at Era.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by TheJames

Chris I had respect for you untill you started bashing Atrius to such an extent. Like for real?

You seriously think I'm bashing Atrius? You've never seen me truly bash a server, then.

If you disagree so god damned much Chris why the hell even post?

I'm not exactly sure where you are getting your ideas from ... if I wanted your server to fail, I would have made sure all of the things I made were removed (gang system was the only I noticed). If I wanted the server to fail, I wouldn't have given you so many ideas to help Atrius succeed.

You need, like most other server managers, learn how to accept criticism.

To want this thread closed simply shows that you can not handle the criticism, or do not want to admit that your server needs a lot of work to be done.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

We keep our economy stable because we check all of the logs everyday at 3:00PM Eastern Time. So if someone has found a way to abuse getting money, we deal with the person and anyone they may have given money to, and the problem.

Era has more item drops/item trades in 10 minutes than you guys probably have in an hour. Over night when your playercount is no more than 2 or 3 (not including the RCs) all of Era's players that don't live in the US are trading. Our logs are probably 100x larger than yours too. Checking logs constantly to look for glitches is just not an option for us.

[WarLord2004]

Yes logs are hard and i don't believe anyone would simply rather run tru logs all day everyday...

But a system could be implemented to catch a hacker you need to think like one...
Know the resources find out what programs they use we all know about Cheat Engine cause on n-pulse anyone using cheat engine the npc server automatically respond to it and ban the player...But graal isn't so high-tech there always new coders out there who loved to ruin the fun for others....

So it doesn't based on if the server is corrupted or staff don't notice players using cheats ...Glitches always would be there i remember i once used the Gralat cheat and by means we all did running around and dropping 9000000 gold rupees lol... Yet it was fixed man i miss that ..

So logs and glitches doesn't make a server it's the players if you have more to offer them they will come...

Why not try and focus something simular to like erm modern warfare like make it into a army server where lets see the east vs the west everything is provided but the ranks what makes you get more stuff.....It be fun to see the army vs the terrorist on graal

[[email protected]]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

We keep our economy stable because we check all of the logs everyday at 3:00PM Eastern Time. So if someone has found a way to abuse getting money, we deal with the person and anyone they may have given money to, and the problem.

However, if we suspect anyone of 'abusing' [obtaining illegal things, such as items and money] we can find out in a matter of minutes if it's true or not.

[CharlieM]

Its easy to view logs, You just put them in a weapon or in microsoft word and it seperates each one, and in our first 20 hours there was more then 1 hack attempt every hour if you were figuring it that way we dont know how far inbetween it was, but our logs for one day are about 23 pages in ms word, I dont really understand how it happend that way but for example our banking log I was going through it and we have players who withdraw 14k and put it back in 10 seconds later, Sounds like there trying to glitch but it doesnt work and all it ends up doing is making me open up another huge log to make sure it didnt glitch, we have weird players on and, on some days we have been getting a good chunk of PB. I understand you probably also have weird players on era but, in that case you should hire one or two people to check the logs and that be there job, our staff just do it if there not doing anything so theres another idea for all of eras staff.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

Its easy to view logs, You just put them in a weapon or in microsoft word and it seperates each one, and in our first 20 hours there was more then 1 hack attempt every hour if you were figuring it that way we dont know how far inbetween it was, but our logs for one day are about 23 pages in ms word, I dont really understand how it happend that way but for example our banking log I was going through it and we have players who withdraw 14k and put it back in 10 seconds later, Sounds like there trying to glitch but it doesnt work and all it ends up doing is making me open up another huge log to make sure it didnt glitch, we have weird players on and, on some days we have been getting a good chunk of PB. I understand you probably also have weird players on era but, in that case you should hire one or two people to check the logs and that be there job, our staff just do it if there not doing anything so theres another idea for all of eras staff.

Now, imagine trying to do the same thing on Era. It would NEVER work. You'd need a team of 6-7 people working on it.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Now, imagine trying to do the same thing on Era. It would NEVER work. You'd need a team of 6-7 people working on it.

We had one guy with the job of going through logs actively on Zodiac, he managed it just fine, and I'm pretty damned sure those logs are biggest on Graal.

[CharlieM]

It would absolutely work, you have to get off your ass and do it, I can run through all the logs and find out everything the player did that day in a matter of minutes,

[xAzerothx]

Not to be rude but if you had to check as many logs Era has you wouldn't do it. You might do it for a week or so but then you'll just blow it off. Everyone does it.

I also don't understand why every single staff member has a RC including staff boots. Not everyone needs them.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

It would absolutely work, you have to get off your ass and do it, I can run through all the logs and find out everything the player did that day in a matter of minutes,

Not if the logs were anything near the size of Era's. I haven't seen them, but I can assure you that for every action logged on Atrius, ten have been logged on Era. At least.

[DarkRenji]

Originally Posted by TheJames

Yea this is false. What the hell are you talking about kid?

There isnt even 8 staff to double and call 16 staff? Your mental. Wow lol. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20 .

Learn your numerical system again pal.

Chris I had respect for you untill you started bashing Atrius to such an extent. Like for real?

Houdini please close this, all it is is a bashing thread that Chris has taken over. If you disagree so god damned much Chris why the hell even post?

Well first off kid, I said 17 not 16.
So Learn how to read again pal. Your mental.

And im on your server right now, There are 16 players on and there are 8 RCs/staff 7 Being RC and 1 staff.
So No Its not false?

If theres 7 RCs that means there could be 7 Rc/7 staff witch would be 14 of your player count. So even If I was off, it would only be by 3.

And if you cant take things like this without getting so worked up perhaps your not going to make a good manager.

[Clockwork]

[[email protected]]

i can find out in a matter of seconds what a person has done that day, that doesn't mean I'll run through a log of every person that logs on Era that day...

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Not if the logs were anything near the size of Era's. I haven't seen them, but I can assure you that for every action logged on Atrius, ten have been logged on Era. At least.

Did you just overlook what I posted? We had one guy actively scanning item logs, drop logs, trade logs, and every other damned log on Zodiac several days every day, and guess what - he was doing a great job, I think he still works there.

[thesmoothcriminal]

ok so lets get back on topic before this gets closed down,

Did any of the ideas get incorparated?

TheJames, I see you were nice enough not to reply to my forum pm aftering writing a page of sugguestions for you.

[xAzerothx]

By the way the hit detection sucks on Atrius.

[Inverness]

Make a script that goes through logs and checks for anomalous amounts of cash and/or items being transferred.

[CharlieM]

its easier to make a person go paste the logs into microsoft word, then have them speed read but lets get back on topic of atrius

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

its easier to make a person go paste the logs into microsoft word, then have them speed read but lets get back on topic of atrius

No it's not.

Back on topic:

Have you taken into account any of the suggestions in this thread?

[CharlieM]

You mean drop the bodies and tileset? Or the other ones, I haven't really seen many suggestions, we are working on new ganis though, we have been working on a lot of newer stuff also, not quite sure why I think its because most of the staff don't read these forums I know you've probably posted your suggestions a million times before, but if you pm them to me or post them again I will try to get the staff to work on them.

[xAzerothx]

I like the bodies. The swimming gani is cute aswell.

[Codein]

I like the bodies but not much else :S