Fantasy Life - Page 2

LoneAngelIbesu · #16 09-21-2008, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

I'd appreciate it if you would keep your insults to yourself.

To be fair, you're the one that insulted him. Draenin was just making fun of the weapon, not Angel. You told him that his ideas were unoriginal and that he was copying from other people...

Mr. Objectivity

Rufus · #17 09-21-2008, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

I would. Final Fantasy VIII was the epitome of fail. I've been saying that for years. If there's one game not to borrow ideas from, it'd be that game.

I couldn't care less about your opinion for another game, it's irrelevant. However, according to Wikipedia the said game received rave reviews in many popular publications, so I mean disregarding what you think, it couldn't have been all that bad.

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Originally Posted by Draenin

My blog posts are not specifically written to present 'original' ideas. I write them to present different methods of structuring content and engines, rather than throwing content out onto the table. I've been asked to develop content for servers since starting my blog entries, but have declined in each instance because I don't feel like working for anyone. Similarly, I don't think it's wise for me to provide information on original content since a few people have wanted to completely copy content I come up with rather than taking those ideas and modifying them. I don't care about one person copying stuff entirely, but when multiple people do that, conflicts come up about one server 'stealing' ideas from another, and I'm not going to be blamed for that. I've been thinking of putting up disclaimers for it, but I doubt it would help.

I think your head is far too up your own ass to be quite honest. You're posting long-winded and obnoxious structures that are generally common sense in the development community; I don't really see how they're different methods at all. Disclaimers on server ideas has got to be the funniest thing I've read in a long time. I'd actually love to hear some of your "original" ideas, because chances are somewhere (or everywhere, lol) they've been done before, or do you mean original to Graal?

If your blog is only acting as a resource of reworded copypasta then I don't really see the point in it, but maybe that's just me.

Draenin · #18 09-21-2008, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by xXZiroXx

That's YOUR opinion. In my opinion, it's the second best one ever. Most of the FFVIII haters usually end up admitting that they didn't play more then 5-30 minutes, or never played more then past disc one.

I've played through the entire game and still recognize it as one of the worst ever created. Let's not talk about where Mythic Legends could go if you really care about FFVIII's engine all that much.

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Originally Posted by xXZiroXx

I'd appreciate it if you would keep your insults to yourself.

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't get butthurt because I don't like the same games you do.

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Originally Posted by Rufus

I couldn't care less about your opinion for another game, it's irrelevant. However, according to Wikipedia the said game received rave reviews in many popular publications, so I mean disregarding what you think, it couldn't have been all that bad.

Who cares about your opinion of my opinion? We can go all day, bud. Regardless of whether anyone on the internets supports your boner for the game, it still doesn't change the fact that you're copying a weapon that was specifically invented for FFVIII. It'd be like putting 'Materia' into your server.

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Originally Posted by Rufus

You're posting long-winded and obnoxious structures that are generally common sense in the development community; I don't really see how they're different methods at all.

It's fine if you think that, but they are, by all standards, structuring methods. You may have heard of a lot of them before. That's great. Sure, some stuff is obvious to you, but it might not be obvious to someone else who hasn't been at it as long, or even to people who've never seen anything like it before.

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I think your head is far too up your own ass to be quite honest.

The feeling is mutual.

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Originally Posted by Rufus

I'd actually love to hear some of your "original" ideas, because chances are somewhere (or everywhere, lol) they've been done before, or do you mean original to Graal?

Original to Graal. And truth be told, not all of it will be. Some of it may have been done before, but I like to see what direction I can take it in. When designing systems and content for an MMO, it's rarely going to be the case where you break ground on completely 'different' stuff. It almost never happens. What my goal is by writing is simply to run through a lot of different ways to design things, regardless of whether they've been done before.

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Originally Posted by Rufus

If your blog is only acting as a resource of reworded copypasta then I don't really see the point in it, but maybe that's just me.

Far from it. What I write comes from my own thoughts and experiences with independent designing. I know it's a bit long, but you also don't have to read it. Won't stop me from writing, though.

Clockwork · #19 09-21-2008, 04:36 AM

ff tactics was great, ff7 was playable, ff8 was great, ff9 was best, ff10 sorta was ok, ff10-2 sorta sucked, ff12 was okay but killed it, ff13 has high hopes from me.

Rufus · #20 09-21-2008, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

It's fine if you think that, but they are, by all standards, structuring methods. You may have heard of a lot of them before. That's great. Sure, some stuff is obvious to you, but it might not be obvious to someone else who hasn't been at it as long, or even to people who've never seen anything like it before.

Do you honestly believe that the way you're your "structuring methods" are aimed towards those that may not find them obvious? You're not exactly conveying them in a way that would be best suited to that audience.

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Originally Posted by Draenin

Original to Graal. And truth be told, not all of it will be. Some of it may have been done before, but I like to see what direction I can take it in. When designing systems and content for an MMO, it's rarely going to be the case where you break ground on completely 'different' stuff. It almost never happens. What my goal is by writing is simply to run through a lot of different ways to design things, regardless of whether they've been done before.

I wasn't aware of the server with gunblades on Graal.

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Far from it. What I write comes from my own thoughts and experiences with independent designing. I know it's a bit long, but you also don't have to read it. Won't stop me from writing, though.

Seen it all before.

LoneAngelIbesu · #21 09-21-2008, 05:42 AM

Stop being so petty.

thesmoothcriminal · #22 09-21-2008, 05:54 AM

Yea anyway back on topic.
I dont really get what this server is about other then it has a mixed theme. I think you need some more structure/planning before buying a playerworld.

also ff8 rocked noob

Soala · #23 09-21-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork

ff tactics was great, ff7 was playable, ff8 was great, ff9 was best, ff10 sorta was ok, ff10-2 sorta sucked, ff12 was okay but killed it, ff13 has high hopes from me.

Gosh, you'r a FF nolife

Only played a few tho

But to get back to the thread, yeah I'd like to help
This server seems to come with really great ideas, and the graphics are unique
colored modern tiles is always funny, and as for now, it's the modern server I love the most (not completely modern I know, but for the modern way, yup I do like it.)

Deas_Voice · #24 09-21-2008, 11:06 AM

New Fresh Hiring Thread for Fantasy Life! press the link!

thesmoothcriminal · #25 09-21-2008, 11:50 AM

doesnt seem very fresh

xXziroXx · #26 09-21-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

You told him that his ideas were unoriginal and that he was copying from other people...

No I didn't?

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Originally Posted by Draenin

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't get butthurt because I don't like the same games you do.

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Originally Posted by Draenin

I would. Final Fantasy VIII was the epitome of fail.

That's what ticked me off. Maybe it was uncalled for, maybe it wasn't, I don't care - remarks like that can gtfo in my opinion though. If you're gonna bash something, bring valid points to the table or don't do it at all.

Crono · #27 09-21-2008, 12:21 PM

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Chrono Trigger > Final Fantasy
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Server sounds ok, it's hard to be original these days. The trick is to to have a higher mixture of quality than originality, but that's just my opinion.

xXziroXx · #28 09-21-2008, 12:37 PM

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The trick is to to have a higher mixture of quality than originality, but that's just my opinion.

I agree.

Codein · #29 09-21-2008, 01:16 PM

Looking nice man. I'd suggest getting some stone paths in there

Arch_Angel · #30 09-21-2008, 04:31 PM

Working on it Codein

I'm hoping to add a good bit to the tileset today when I get back from breakfast. Also, expect major updates system wise as the days go by, along with graphics.
Please try to stay on topic best you can, I understand arguments tend to strike out though, but try to keep it at a minimum. please.

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Originally Posted by farte6

Im sorry to say this but your server looks very square boxy and plain. I think your a lot better than that.

I know I knoww.. That's just the base structures, you should see some of the stuff I have planned for tiles

Don't worry, I promise you it'll get a lot better.