This is getting out of hand

[Door]

Man I am really hoping that the level of pure stupidity I've witnessed in this thread from the Americans especially is limited to Graal. But I know it's not.

The economy of a country highly involved in globalization cannot be 'totally destroyed' by one person, and his cabinet, in 8 years. It is literally impossible. The problem with Americans is that the culture here is so quick and high paced that many regard NOW as the only existing factor in anything. Not 10 years ago, or 20 years ago. And the future? Who gives a flying **** about that ol' thing? Not Americans, that's for sure. Strategy means nothing to the public of the US.

The American economy is based on external factors more than internal these days. If you think about it, it makes sense. Half our labor is now overseas. More than half of our products are coming in from overseas. We don't even have tariffs on trade with Canada and Mexico. Our economy is not something that a few people in the US can pick up and toss around at will. It is controlled by TONS of different factors all over the world, and not ones that would sit idly by while some jerk screwed **** up for them. It's much more likely that they would *GASP* take advantage of our economy while it is strong and use it for their gain. Imagine that, other countries doing naughty things. But can you really call it naughty? I think it's pretty low of us to call ourselves the Land of the Free while we dump billions of dollars into China every year--the land of the captive. But still, the point I'm trying to make is that President Bush did not single-handedly sabotage the US economy, and in fact, what is happening to it is more likely being caused by things that happened 15 years ago than things that happened 5 years ago. Such is the way. And the worst part? The majority of people who don't really understand what is going on over here are the Americans themselves. No wonder other countries call us naive and spoiled.

It's embarrassing and I wish that politics just didn't come up on these forums anymore, ever, to save me that terrible shame.

PS - Mods? If this is considered a personal attack, I did not intend it to be. I think my points were valid and well supported. However, if you are itching to give me an infraction for it, please warn me first so that I can at least edit it to be more appropriate. Perhaps that will also help me to understand how you view things so I can avoid doing them in the future. Infractions don't usually explain much to me at all.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Pimmeh

It actually is. Well, not you persé, but your parents (or the majority of the US citizens) voted for the current president, and the current senate I believe.

We don't control those before us who voted, therefor it is not our fault ...

And, Bush never won the popular vote.

Originally Posted by Door

The economy of a country highly involved in globalization cannot be 'totally destroyed' by one person, and his cabinet, in 8 years. It is literally impossible.

Naturally things change, and Bush and his cabinet had a pretty tough 8 years, but they did make some horrible decisions (i.e. the war in Iraq). I'm not blaming them for all of the destroying of the economy, but if we had people with at least a fifth-grade education, perhaps we'd have done better.


Also, what you people still don't understand, is that, as the consumer, I don't care about the reason for the increase in prices. That's how all consumers are. They just want it lower.

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Door

Man I am really hoping that the level of pure stupidity I've witnessed in this thread from the Americans especially is limited to Graal. But I know it's not.

The economy of a country highly involved in globalization cannot be 'totally destroyed' by one person, and his cabinet, in 8 years. It is literally impossible. The problem with Americans is that the culture here is so quick and high paced that many regard NOW as the only existing factor in anything. Not 10 years ago, or 20 years ago. And the future? Who gives a flying **** about that ol' thing? Not Americans, that's for sure. Strategy means nothing to the public of the US.

The American economy is based on external factors more than internal these days. If you think about it, it makes sense. Half our labor is now overseas. More than half of our products are coming in from overseas. We don't even have tariffs on trade with Canada and Mexico. Our economy is not something that a few people in the US can pick up and toss around at will. It is controlled by TONS of different factors all over the world, and not ones that would sit idly by while some jerk screwed **** up for them. It's much more likely that they would *GASP* take advantage of our economy while it is strong and use it for their gain. Imagine that, other countries doing naughty things. But can you really call it naughty? I think it's pretty low of us to call ourselves the Land of the Free while we dump billions of dollars into China every year--the land of the captive. But still, the point I'm trying to make is that President Bush did not single-handedly sabotage the US economy, and in fact, what is happening to it is more likely being caused by things that happened 15 years ago than things that happened 5 years ago. Such is the way. And the worst part? The majority of people who don't really understand what is going on over here are the Americans themselves. No wonder other countries call us naive and spoiled.

It's embarrassing and I wish that politics just didn't come up on these forums anymore, ever, to save me that terrible shame.

Not all of us American's are ignorant to what you are saying. Personally, I wish California was its own country because it essentially is in the sense of culture, education and general political/global/social views.

Can you believe that some Americans (of course 90% of these guys come from the more middle states, no offense to you guys) actually believe global warming is a myth?