Graal Ghetto! Cleptomaniacs.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by DrakilorP2P

Possibly rude, but "morally wrong" seems a bit much. I've never seen any player made Graal material being licensed for a fee, so I'm going to assume there's no financial loss.
Please enlighten me as to how this form of piracy may be harmful to the original author. I'm assuming it's bad in at least some way since it would be silly to label it "wrong" if it wasn't.

It's morally wrong in the sense that they're stealing credit for something they couldn't do on their own

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by DrakilorP2P

Being recognized as the writer of the script doesn't seem like a great enough thing to get upset about when you're deprived of it. Besides, there's a simple cure for that: post it in the Code Gallery. If credit is what you want, there is no better way than making it public.
Requiring people to ask for permission every time they want to use a script seems kind of unmotivated though, unless one is a megalomaniac.

Also, the people at Graal Ghetto might be more cooperative if you stop calling them thieves. It's hardly an accurate term anyway.

You shouldn't assume; I called no one a thief (at least, until after they banned me, and even then I don't recall).

I PMed the guy and said
"Hey, you have some of Utopias content on here. Do you mind removing it?"

Banned for hacking.

I did not release it to the code gallery because I made it for Utopia; I don't make things for a server then release them usually. Most of the time, I make something just to post on the code gallery.

[DrakilorP2P]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

It's against Graal rules, therefore wrong. It doesn't matter how it harms the author, because it's wrong. If I don't give permission to someone to use my stuff, then I don't want to see them using it.

Can't argue against the rules.

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

But... I'll comment on your 'harmful' bit. It's harmful because Graal development is a very competitive field. People may not agree with it being competitive, but it is. Everyone wants to make a better server than the next. With servers like Utopia and Graal Ghetto... which have very similar builds, stealing makes it easier for the other server to get the upper hand. If they want to copy, then fine, no one can stop them and if they're putting in the effort then I won't object.

Graal Ghetto doesn't seem like a threat, but okay.

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I can go on, but really, until you're a developer(are you?), and you put hard work into your work, you won't really understand what's so wrong with someone stealing your work.

I only recall being concerned about this years ago when I was still an immature prick. I have no idea why. I'm currently particularly fond of the Do What The **** You Want To Public License in the occasions where a license is useful (It's less obnoxious than other free software licenses).

Originally Posted by kia345

It's morally wrong in the sense that they're stealing credit for something they couldn't do on their own

Yes, credits. Serious business.

Originally Posted by cbk1994

You shouldn't assume; I called no one a thief (at least, until after they banned me, and even then I don't recall).

Words, words, words.

The thread title contains "Cleptomaniacs."

[mYg0tHaMpStEr]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Of course; some of the staff members were horrible (uploading porn and displaying it in the town -- I fired six people that day). There were also of course staff who just abused powers.

Nice to know, considering I was the youngest staff, though I doubt you actually think that. However, thanks.

Ah what a day.

Anyway, I made a support ticket about them about a week ago. They obviously didn't comply. Shouldn't they be shut down?

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by mYg0tHaMpStEr

Ah what a day.

Anyway, I made a support ticket about them about a week ago. They obviously didn't comply. Shouldn't they be shut down?

These should bring back memories.

[mYg0tHaMpStEr]

That day was ****ing kick-ass. Good times, good times.

[Chompy]

***** @ that last picture Chris xD

[kia345]

Originally Posted by DrakilorP2P

Yes, credits. Serious business

Then you wouldn't care at all if someone took everything you've ever done in your life and claimed it as their own

[Frankie]

Could someone point out for me where Era stole Utopia graphics + ideas? lol..

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Could someone point out for me where Era stole Utopia graphics + ideas? lol..

Are you seriously interested? If you are, I'll make you a list, but I'm not going to waste my time.

[Frankie]

no, I am seriously interested.

[MysticX2X]

Dang, every post i see that Chris makes in a thread is pretty derogatory.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Dang, every post i see that Chris makes in a thread is pretty derogatory.

That I am saying that this server stole graphics/scripts, some of which I made?

[MysticX2X]

So you act like this server is even achieving some accomplishment other than just being a UC World.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

So you act like this server is even achieving some accomplishment other than just being a UC World.

That doesn't even make sense; I act like they have stolen things I made, and they did not request permission. Therefor, it needs to be removed.