Graal Kingdoms' Current Status: Terrible

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Stephen

and has given Tig (previous hacked on GK) access to whatever he needs. He's doing more damage with his paranoia and loyalty than good.

What's your point, good sir? Seems to me like you're just trying to publicly deface me to try to get the community against me. Unfortunately for you I don't really think the GK community is all that naive to just buy in to everything you're saying. Not to mention all hacking occurred years ago, and recently I've been working on hack detection to prevent people from hacking.

[ImmortalHuman]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Well you don't need the "source code" of the server to script for GK - I assume you mean the information the mudlib uses. It would definitely help people learn to script on GK - which is a large problem I'm having... I need people who have experience and aren't too busy to script.

A manager isn't going to have the authority to hand that sort of information anyways - it comes down to Stefan/Unixmad. This is probably why Stefan is hesitant to give me access, but as I've already said he's being very foolish. He's given iSplash access unknowingly and has given Tig (previous hacked on GK) access to whatever he needs. He's doing more damage with his paranoia and loyalty than good.

Haha, Ok first off Zero your of no material use to Stefan or Unixmad you can GFX wow Tig can do that blind folded and with his hand tied behind his back

I don't even want to start on the stuff I have about you. Don't even say anything about Tig hacking..

Tig would definitly be a good manager He has an IQ of 124 and yours is what like 90?

Quality's of Tig:
Is not corrupt in a management position like Sam or Jagen or Lance.
Can Script Blindfolded.
Can GFX Blindfolded.
Can Gani Blindfolded.
Can Debug his own Coding if needed.
Gets the Job done.

Guess what?

Stefan knows I'm iSplash.
He doesn't care.

Oh and I was about to be Globaled even though I helped foil Joey's anti-graal activity's Who stepped in and had my Back?
Tig!

Tig wouldn't risk all hes accomplished if he didn't think Ive changed...


Also I recall helping Vulcan with some Era issues and I was the one that notified Stefan of the shop table when I found out Kuji and dbug where abusing it. (dbug is Iwir3d i think)

anyways Tig for manager and screw all you haters!

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by ImmortalHuman

Haha, Ok first off Zero your of no material use to Stefan or Unixmad you can GFX wow Tig can do that blind folded and with his hand tied behind his back

I don't even want to start on the stuff I have about you. Don't even say anything about Tig hacking..

Tig would definitly be a good manager He has an IQ of 124 and yours is what like 90?

Quality's of Tig:
Is not corrupt in a management position like Sam or Jagen or Lance.
Can Script Blindfolded.
Can GFX Blindfolded.
Can Gani Blindfolded.
Can Debug his own Coding if needed.
Gets the Job done.

Guess what?

Stefan knows I'm iSplash.
He doesn't care.

Oh and I was about to be Globaled even though I helped foil Joey's anti-graal activity's Who stepped in and had my Back?
Tig!

Tig wouldn't risk all hes accomplished if he didn't think Ive changed...


Also I recall helping Vulcan with some Era issues and I was the one that notified Stefan of the shop table when I found out Kuji and dbug where abusing it. (dbug is Iwir3d i think)

anyways Tig for manager and screw all you haters!

This isn't a debate. Can't we just fairly say that Tig and Stephen are both candidates for decent managers? Well, even if you can't, let's talk about the server itself! Not WHO should be manager, but IF there should be a new manager, and WHY, and HOW, and WHEN... we'll worry about the WHO in another thread, k?

kthxbai

[kia345]

Originally Posted by ImmortalHuman

Tig would definitly be a good manager He has an IQ of 124 and yours is what like 90?

He's also usually a jerk. Hiring some with skill and brains but a bad attitude (or like you, having none of the above) is always a bad idea.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by ImmortalHuman

Haha, Ok first off Zero your of no material use to Stefan or Unixmad you can GFX wow Tig can do that blind folded and with his hand tied behind his back

To anyone interested, I just want to point out that this is iSplash and he's bitter that I had Stefan remove his access to debug.

Originally Posted by Tigairius

What's your point, good sir? Seems to me like you're just trying to publicly deface me to try to get the community against me. Unfortunately for you I don't really think the GK community is all that naive to just buy in to everything you're saying. Not to mention all hacking occurred years ago, and recently I've been working on hack detection to prevent people from hacking.

You cought onto my clever scheme. I was simply showing the lack of good judgement Stefan has consistently shown.

Originally Posted by Googi

I don't really understand what Stefan would have to lose by publicly releasing a lot of 2K2's source code (though I can see why he would want to keep SOME of it secret if he thinks it could be used to develop exploits). It's not like he's some petty playerworld owner. Even if playerworlds "steal" some of the code, it's hard to see how Stefan loses out given 2K2's current situation, and he would stand to gain if it results in an improvement in the quality of playerworlds.

I really don't think Stefan has the time or gumption to fix the bugs people find and abuse through the source code.

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

This isn't a debate. Can't we just fairly say that Tig and Stephen are both candidates for decent managers? Well, even if you can't, let's talk about the server itself! Not WHO should be manager, but IF there should be a new manager, and WHY, and HOW, and WHEN... we'll worry about the WHO in another thread, k?

kthxbai

I'm not really sure why there is so much hostility - initially it was our agreement that Tig would manage the server should the opportunity be presented to either of us. However, he stopped working cold turkey April 11th and hasn't really done anything since. It's not some sort of "I'll get back at you for that" thing, it just doesn't seem like a amicable characteristic in comparison to the current manager.

The only reason I've really said myself is because.... there's no one else stepping forward. What a drama fest this is.

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Sounds like Classic. Staff willing to work, but inactive management that won't seem to be let go.

You can count Atlantis in too from what I have heard, that makes three worlds of that kind.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by ImmortalHuman

crap

Stupid post. Wasted my time. CAN HE REALLY GFX BLINDFOLDED?

Originally Posted by kia345

skill and brains but a bad attitude (or like you, having none of the above)

rep+

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by kia345

He's also usually a jerk. Hiring some with skill and brains but a bad attitude (or like you, having none of the above) is always a bad idea.

What're you saying? Stephen has a good attitude? This isn't about me becoming manager anyways. I don't care if Stephen becomes manager, but he can't do anything except tell people to do and make graphics. It's not like he can show anyone by example. Flinging around your opinion is meaningless, all negative views are based purely on opinion. Are you saying that you'd rather hire someone with a happy-go-lucky ignorant attitude with no skills or brains? Yeah, that'll help a lot. Let me let you in on a little secret: you don't know what's best for GK, neither does Stephen, and neither do I, but I guarantee you Stephen is more lost than I am. It's pretty obvious to me that Stephen has already managed to feed you slander and coax you in to believing him, which is fine, because that's like joining a cult. Normally I wouldn't even begin to defend this as much as I have, but the last thing GK needs is exactly what we have now: someone who is foul, ignorant and power-crazy. Of course, since this community has already done so much good for GK, you guys are free to decide on your own.

[ImmortalHuman]

Thanks Hatred for getting me debug so I could do work for Samurai and Forest.

Thanks Stephen for being gelious and nervious about me erasing you from existance.

[Robin]

Intelligence quotient points are fantasy these days. Someone may score very low on an IQ test and be able to do astronomical physics equations in their head. If you practice on example IQ tests for about a month before you take an "official" (And I used the term loosely) IQ test, you will score much higher than you would if you had no practice and just sat down at it.

Judge a person by his character, it is up to everyone to take into account their history, how they've either overcome their history or not, their love for this game and their vision. If you have no vision, what's the point of being a manager? You manage a team to change or improve a server. Not to sit there on RC gleefully pining over all your rights and giggling.

Not to step on anyone's shoes, but I thought Bjorn and myself were good friends before I left, and I did not see him post when I got back and have not seen him post here since. I've still got his AIM on my list yet he's never online, so I'm forced to assume he's either inactive or quit.

It's up to the owners of the player world who to make manager, and in this case it's Stefan / Unixmad.

They will appoint who they feel like, when they feel like, and there really isn't anything this thread will do to help anything other to boost the egos of those people 'running' for Manager, when in the end, it's not the choice of the players, nor the staff, it's down to Stefan and/or Unixmad and unless either of these two gives the word, nothing is going to happen.

Face facts.

[DustyPorViva]

Well, I don't get why people think managers need to be able to do the work in order to manage it. A management is a management position, not a development position.
It helps to be able to develop, but it's far from necessary.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Googi

I don't really understand what Stefan would have to lose by publicly releasing a lot of 2K2's source code (though I can see why he would want to keep SOME of it secret if he thinks it could be used to develop exploits). It's not like he's some petty playerworld owner. Even if playerworlds "steal" some of the code, it's hard to see how Stefan loses out given 2K2's current situation, and he would stand to gain if it results in an improvement in the quality of playerworlds.

Complete agreement. What could he lose by releasing code?

There is really no way to work on GK's scripts (I was asked to make a treasure chest which logged actions) without this. How can I possibly make this chest without access to the main chess class?

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Well, I don't get why people think managers need to be able to do the work in order to manage it. A management is a management position, not a development position.
It helps to be able to develop, but it's far from necessary.

Excuse me, but I don't believe anyone ever said developing is necessary in this thread.

[Robin]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Well, I don't get why people think managers need to be able to do the work in order to manage it. A management is a management position, not a development position.
It helps to be able to develop, but it's far from necessary.

Where does it say that in my post Dusty? I never said that.

This is the second or third post I've seen where you've replied without reading what I wrote

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Complete agreement. What could he lose by releasing code?

There is really no way to work on GK's scripts (I was asked to make a treasure chest which logged actions) without this. How can I possibly make this chest without access to the main chess class?

When I was working for Debug I was given access to all the scripts I needed o.o

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

but he can't do anything except tell people to do and make graphics. It's not like he can show anyone by example.

Sorry, Robin, your post just happened to pop in between my own and Tig's.