And As We Stand Here, It's...

[Switch]

...without me.

Graal just isn't fun any more. There's nothing new exciting, or relatively even FUN to do.
GK used to be my favoritiest server. But then they took off items, spells, etc., and there hasn't been an update for ages. What do you want us to do, idle more than we did in 2005?
UN was a big "like" for me. The events kept me entertained. But now there's almost never any new events. AND they made events more spaced out. Wonder why Zodiac is now the leading playerworld... The only thing most people ever even did on UN was events. Have you noticed the 200 jumping down to 100 playercount at any given time? Atleast half the players were there for new and just plain old fun events.
Zodiac, after the last reset before Classic, was great. You didn't have to buy SKILLS and it was easier to get money. Now, skills, are skills. You get a skill by learning, levelling. You get better in a real skill in real life by DOING IT, not BUYING it. And taking away money from monster drops was just BS. New players can never get any money, and it's so hard to level up after level 15! MAKE MORE GOD DAMN MONSTERS AND REDUCE LAG! It's been like this for a year or two! AND NOT JUST REPLACING OLD IMAGES WITH NEW ONES!
Zone is just not fun any more. At first clicking was horrible, yes, but now it's not. This isn't what I'm complaining about. There's just nothing new to do. about once every year there is. That's it.
DON'T GIVE ME A ****ING LAME EXCUSE LIKE "We're working on something." YEAH, FOR 2 ****ING YEARS!

The global management just isn't that great.
They themselves don't hire people, not even people to hire other people. Wow, security issues! Do you see Nexon having a problem with this? JaGEx? Any other MMOG? I don't think so. Grow some balls and hire people to make atleast 1 main server. Yes, HIRE! Not just "Ok you're a global all you can do is make playerworlds Hosted and Classic" like a PWA. No, something like another Technical person like Stefan. Some Pricing management. Some people who can work with new coding like Graal. Even Animations. Just get some REAL staff.
They barely even listen to you if you're not a Gold staff! And even then it's hard to contact them! I ask Stefan about something a while ago, he says to e-mail unixmad. Days went by until I spoke with Stefan again. He said unixmad always checks his e-mails. This was what, January/February? He still hasn't responded. 2 1/2 months! Wow, that's so quick, Stefan!

The community is a vacuum. Yes, the "Your Mom's a Vacuum" joke. But seriously, it is. At least, most of it. There's few people on Graal who have either common sense, good judgement, or are just nice and even fewer who have more than two of those! GP DON'T DO THEIR ****ING JOB (most of them)! What, PM's aren't enough? Don't have your masses on ON TAG? Why would I go through and edit PMs/Masses just to get someone banned? Maybe we should have a real "report" system. Chat and PM's included. Maybe that'll get something done there.

That's all my rants. There's no reason to say anything good in my opinion. There's only a few tidbits which are. And they're a sentence each compared to those paragraphs.


People I'd like to say goodbye to:

Zone ET's and the former ones - You guys are awesome We had good times together.
In Specific, Dante55555 - We had the best jokes. Buckfutt, please, now.

Vulcan - You were always nice to me after that time we actually met in game. Best Global.

Crow - You taught me the basics of GS2, thanks Could have never understanded anything without your support on that one day.

Angelu - Your graphics have always been truly amazing. I don't know why you don't think so too, but that's your opinion.

PrinceofKenshin - You're just plain cool. You were always one of my best friends after you joined Esteria, too bad we almost never talked to eachother after

Aimee - I think you're like, the only girl Graal player that doesn't hate me after that fight with Lisa (ugh, she's so damn annoying!). You rockzerz. Hope you get PWA

Hikaru - Always giving me some sort of opportunity for something. Thanks

If I forgot you post back. I really, really doubt I did. If I'm wrong, then sorry.


I'll be on the forums occassionally.


"I'll hold out just as long as you (Tonight is the night we examine ourselves)
Don't hold back, don't hold nothing back tonight
We'll let it take control, using you tonight
Don't hold back, don't hold nothing back tonight
We'll let it take control, using you tonight"
-The Sleeping


Edit:
I first made this a thread to show that I'm quitting, and its reason. But I think now it's both that and a way to get some message across to Stefan.

[Xterminator]

Cya Switch..Good Luck in Life!

[Horrified]

I hear the screeching prepubescent shrill cries as I read this.

Cya in 2-3 hours

[Switch]

Originally Posted by Horrified

I hear the screeching prepubescent shrill cries as I read this.

Cya in 2-3 hours

That's why I've already not been on for a week+, and only posted this today?

[Horrified]

Originally Posted by Switch

That's why I've already not been on for a week+, and only posted this today?

Listen, it's pathetic that when you quit you go off on tantrums and change your signature, avatar or whatever you have to try and seem like you know anything. Reading into this post, your misleading criticism is so pathetic I think I could break into tears.

[xAzerothx]

I see your 2-3 hours and raise you 1 hour.

[Horrified]

Originally Posted by xAzerothx

I see your 2-3 hours and raise you 1 hour.

I show my cards.

3 aces 2 kings

we both lose anyway, because he's on the forums.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by Horrified

Listen, it's pathetic that when you quit you go off on tantrums and change your signature, avatar or whatever you have to try and seem like you know anything. Reading into this post, your misleading criticism is so pathetic I think I could break into tears.

These critisisms have been growing. Don't tell me my "misleading critisism". It's not. You know it's the truth.
I only changed my signature and profile thingy because they don't fits no mores.

Originally Posted by Horrified

I show my cards.

3 aces 2 kings

we both lose anyway, because he's on the forums.

I said I'd be on the forums occasionaly.

[DustyPorViva]

Who cares if he'll be back? We see this every single time someone quits, or 'quits'. It's not the fact that you're accusing him, but that you see it in every single quitting Graal thread and it's annoying to see over and over. People go, "blah blah, you'll be back!" Maybe he won't, people have quit before--look at the damn population. If you want to mock someone for not quitting, please do so in their future post that disproves their supposed quitting. At least then you'll have proof for your accusations.

[Horrified]

Originally Posted by Switch

These critisisms have been growing. Don't tell me my "misleading critisism". It's not. You know it's the truth.
I only changed my signature and profile thingy because they don't fits no mores.

I said I'd be on the forums occasionaly.

Why are you on the forums of a game you quit on? I don't have to be a therapist to say that if you're going back to part of a community, you desire to belong in the community.

Listen, I'll break down your misleading criticism for you.

Originally Posted by Switch

Graal just isn't fun any more. There's nothing new exciting, or relatively even FUN to do.

Opinion.

Originally Posted by Switch

GK used to be my favoritiest server. But then they took off items, spells, etc., and there hasn't been an update for ages. What do you want us to do, idle more than we did in 2005?

They took things off, okay, but I constantly see nonsense in the updates talking about GK. I wouldn't say they're completely shut away from new content at all.

Originally Posted by Switch

UN was a big "like" for me. The events kept me entertained. But now there's almost never any new events. AND they made events more spaced out. Wonder why Zodiac is now the leading playerworld... The only thing most people ever even did on UN was events. Have you noticed the 200 jumping down to 100 playercount at any given time? Atleast half the players were there for new and just plain old fun events.

Tons of new content is days away from release. My, have you heard of Town Takeover? I don't know if I'm allowed to tell you either, but there's a new shop coming along in a few days with some really useful NPCs.

Originally Posted by Switch

Zodiac, after the last reset before Classic, was great. You didn't have to buy SKILLS and it was easier to get money. Now, skills, are skills. You get a skill by learning, levelling. You get better in a real skill in real life by DOING IT, not BUYING it. And taking away money from monster drops was just BS. New players can never get any money, and it's so hard to level up after level 15! MAKE MORE GOD DAMN MONSTERS AND REDUCE LAG! It's been like this for a year or two! AND NOT JUST REPLACING OLD IMAGES WITH NEW ONES!

Zodiac was addictive and fun the last time I played it, even though the images sucked monkey babies.

Originally Posted by Switch

Zone is just not fun any more. At first clicking was horrible, yes, but now it's not. This isn't what I'm complaining about. There's just nothing new to do. about once every year there is. That's it.
DON'T GIVE ME A ****ING LAME EXCUSE LIKE "We're working on something." YEAH, FOR 2 ****ING YEARS!

They work on this a lot too...look at updates.

Originally Posted by Switch

The global management just isn't that great.
They themselves don't hire people, not even people to hire other people. Wow, security issues! Do you see Nexon having a problem with this? JaGEx? Any other MMOG? I don't think so. Grow some balls and hire people to make atleast 1 main server. Yes, HIRE! Not just "Ok you're a global all you can do is make playerworlds Hosted and Classic" like a PWA. No, something like another Technical person like Stefan. Some Pricing management. Some people who can work with new coding like Graal. Even Animations. Just get some REAL staff.

Stupid, stupid, stupid. They want the best of the best on there team. If they hired people like you all the time, the game would be in a worse position then you think it is right now. The amount of knowledge and experience they need to have to do what you think is simple makes you sound dumber then ever.

Originally Posted by Switch

They barely even listen to you if you're not a Gold staff! And even then it's hard to contact them! I ask Stefan about something a while ago, he says to e-mail unixmad. Days went by until I spoke with Stefan again. He said unixmad always checks his e-mails. This was what, January/February? He still hasn't responded. 2 1/2 months! Wow, that's so quick, Stefan!

I hear complaints a lot, I'm not in there heads so I dunno why.

Originally Posted by Switch

The community is a vacuum. Yes, the "Your Mom's a Vacuum" joke. But seriously, it is. At least, most of it. There's few people on Graal who have either common sense, good judgement, or are just nice and even fewer who have more than two of those! GP DON'T DO THEIR ****ING JOB (most of them)! What, PM's aren't enough? Don't have your masses on ON TAG? Why would I go through and edit PMs/Masses just to get someone banned? Maybe we should have a real "report" system. Chat and PM's included. Maybe that'll get something done there.

There's plenty of reasons people would edit stuff to get others banned. I dunno who you're complaining about, but GPs don't do jack on UN...you have to literally be looking to be jailed to get jailed anymore, honestly.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Switch

I said I'd be on the forums occasionaly.

Quit posting. If you don't want Graal, we don't want you here. If you can't appreciate the game these forums were made for, why do you support them? Go away. If you hate Graal so much, if you're so tired of it, shut up and leave.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by Horrified

Why are you on the forums of a game you quit on? I don't have to be a therapist to say that if you're going back to part of a community, you desire to belong in the community.

No, it doesn't. Tons of ex-players are still in the forums.

They took things off, okay, but I constantly see nonsense in the updates talking about GK. I wouldn't say they're completely shut away from new content at all.

They say they're WORKING on stuff. And when they do release it, it's still crappy.

Tons of new content is days away from release. My, have you heard of Town Takeover? I don't know if I'm allowed to tell you either, but there's a new shop coming along in a few days with some really useful NPCs.

I don't really care. We need EP for those NPCs most likely, or 10000 gralat.

They work on this a lot too...look at updates.

And you think they're good enough to keep playing?

Stupid, stupid, stupid. They want the best of the best on there team. If they hired people like you all the time, the game would be in a worse position then you think it is right now. The amount of knowledge and experience they need to have to do what you think is simple makes you sound dumber then ever.

And I said hire people like me when? I said to actually HIRE people.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Who cares if he'll be back? We see this every single time someone quits, or 'quits'. It's not the fact that you're accusing him, but that you see it in every single quitting Graal thread and it's annoying to see over and over. People go, "blah blah, you'll be back!" Maybe he won't, people have quit before--look at the damn population. If you want to mock someone for not quitting, please do so in their future post that disproves their supposed quitting. At least then you'll have proof for your accusations.

There is barely any respect from others, towards others on Graal. Sad.....

By Switch.
Although I dont agree with everything that you posted, I respect your decision to quit, and hope you will eventually come back.

[Horrified]

Originally Posted by Switch

No, it doesn't. Tons of ex-players are still in the forums.

who, people who have a rate of a post a month?

Originally Posted by Switch

They say they're WORKING on stuff. And when they do release it, it's still crappy.

That means they are releasing things. Maybe not things you like, but it's things.

Originally Posted by Switch

I don't really care. We need EP for those NPCs most likely, or 10000 gralat.

The new mining and fishing system makes gralat actually enjoyable to obtain. Log on and try it out.

Originally Posted by Switch

And you think they're good enough to keep playing?

Hey, you said there "were no updates." Whether or not they're good isn't my call, it's yours, but they definitely update.

Originally Posted by Switch

And I said hire people like me when? I said to actually HIRE people.

Most people are like you with an elitest mind of "change everything it all sucks," and forget about how unreasonable that sounds.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by kia345

Quit posting. If you don't want Graal, we don't want you here. If you can't appreciate the game these forums were made for, why do you support them? Go away. If you hate Graal so much, if you're so tired of it, shut up and leave.

Terrible attitude, and it's not just because you're being a jerk.
I'm hardly ever on the client, and I certainly don't play on any of the servers. They aren't really fun, I find the forums more entertaining than the game... is there a problem with that? Technically, you have to pay for access to the forums so we're just as much contributing to the game financially as the person who plays GK or Zone.
I just like sticking around on the forums, contributing where I can, and just discussing whatever I see that peaks my interest. I have a lot of negative feelings to Graal and the way things are done... and not(anyone who's gotten into one of 'those chats' with me about Graal can attest), but that doesn't mean I don't still like helping and talking with the people around here.

[kia345]

You didn't post "Sup guys, Graal sucks, I'm leaving" like he did.

He's just put out that he doesn't give a damn for Graal, yet he stays.

If I went to your house every day, and each day I made it apparent that I thought it sucked and I hated it, would you want me to keep coming back?

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Terrible attitude, and it's not just because you're being a jerk.
I'm hardly ever on the client, and I certainly don't play on any of the servers. They aren't really fun, I find the forums more entertaining than the game... is there a problem with that? Technically, you have to pay for access to the forums so we're just as much contributing to the game financially as the person who plays GK or Zone.
I just like sticking around on the forums, contributing where I can, and just discussing whatever I see that peaks my interest. I have a lot of negative feelings to Graal and the way things are done... and not(anyone who's gotten into one of 'those chats' with me about Graal can attest), but that doesn't mean I don't still like helping and talking with the people around here.

I agree. I hardly ever go on client, but I am always on here. I do like helping people on playerworlds when I get the chance, and poke around looking for updates or something if I get bored.

[kia345]

Refer to my post concerning Dusty's.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by kia345

You didn't post "Sup guys, Graal sucks, I'm leaving" like he did.

He's just put out that he doesn't give a damn for Graal, yet he stays.

If I went to your house every day, and each day I made it apparent that I thought it sucked and I hated it, would you want me to keep coming back?

I never heard him say he didn't give a damn about Graal, but just posted a lot of his opinion about how things are. You know what? I agree with a lot of what he said. I can't agree with things about specific playerworlds because I don't play them... but I don't play them for a reason and that's because they're not all that fun for me.
The community outside of the forums(not that it's all perfect here) is terrible. Anytime I happen my way onto a server I get insulted by people I never met... for no reason. Anyways... I don't want to get into a big debate about what's wrong with Graal but he has every right to say what he thinks is wrong. He is a paying customer(he can still post) and as far as the rules go there is nothing wrong with posting your opinion about the game.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by kia345

Quit posting. If you don't want Graal, we don't want you here. If you can't appreciate the game these forums were made for, why do you support them? Go away. If you hate Graal so much, if you're so tired of it, shut up and leave.

Because some of the community is still my friends and it's basically the only way I can still talk to them.
I'm also here to see the new updates and POSSIBLY help the game to be better.

[kia345]

Then you aren't a "proud Graal quitter", now are you? Here you are, still involved with Graal's community, on Graal's forums.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by kia345

Then you aren't a "proud Graal quitter", now are you? Here you are, still involved with Graal's community, on Graal's forums.

Yes, I am.
I don't play any more.
You can be a "Proud Smoking quitter" but still be on a forum that endorces smoking. You may not agree, but you can still be there.

[kia345]

The smoking forum did not come as a packaged deal with the cigarettes. These forums on the other hand, are part of Graal.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by kia345

The smoking forum did not come as a packaged deal with the cigarettes. These forums on the other hand, are part of Graal.

And I still have my membership. I never payed to post these. I still have more than 150 days or somethings.

[kia345]

You paid Graal for these forums.

/end

[Switch]

Originally Posted by kia345

You paid Graal for these forums.

Before I quit.

[cbk1994]

IM NOT UR FRIEND :CCCCCCCCCC

Enjoy life.

[Clockwork]

Bye switch... D:

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Twinny

Not necessarily a bad thing?

Shhh twinny >:O Don't be rude.

[cbk1994]

pour twinneh

[NeoJenova]

Originally Posted by Horrified

who, people who have a rate of a post a month?

!

c u next month!

[TSAdmin]

Ciao, Switcherew and don't worry about what people think. Whether you wish to continue using something you paid for, or not, is not their problem... or at least shouldn't be.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by Switch

That's why I've already not been on for a week+, and only posted this today?

Correct about the week :P

[zokemon]

This thread screams drama.

[Horrified]

Originally Posted by NeoJenova

!

c u next month!

You were the person I was thinking of when I wrote that, ahahahahahahahaha.

This is the last time I'm going to post anything more about you, but Switch, you have lost all of the respect I ever had for you, even though it wasn't much to start with.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by Horrified

This is the last time I'm going to post anything more about you, but Switch, you have lost all of the respect I ever had for you, even though it wasn't much to start with.

Great, want a cookie?

[kia345]

Why do people post something so stupid and think it makes them awesome? Switch, as much as my previous posts played on not liking you, your reply to Horrified really ruined you in my eyes.

[Imperialistic]

Switch I hate to say it. I had alot of respect for you before this huge hissy fit, now I just don't know..

Ciao..

P.S. If you are going to leave graal, please take this drama on the forums with you.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by kia345

Why do people post something so stupid and think it makes them awesome? Switch, as much as my previous posts played on not liking you, your reply to Horrified really ruined you in my eyes.

I don't think it makes me awesome? I really don't give a **** what you think in my eyes.

Originally Posted by Imperialistic

Switch I hate to say it. I had alot of respect for you before this huge hissy fit, now I just don't know..

Ciao..

P.S. If you are going to leave graal, please take this drama on the forums with you.

It's no hissy fit or drama. It's the entire truth.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Switch

It's no hissy fit or drama. It's the entire truth.

Then quit milking it by staying on the forums