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Old 02-07-2008, 07:48 PM
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Skyld, you did a great job on the scripted RC -- an amazing job. I find it very nice for many things, but for scripting it really just does not work.

It'll be better once we get external windows (by last Christmas - wow!) so that you can better manage them. One thing I would like better is a seperate window for each script. I'm all for tabs, but when you need to edit two scripts at once it's kinda hard switching back and forth.

Also, I want that delete button fixed! It's so annoying

Scripted RC also lacks drag-n-drop.

But like I said, you did an amazing job, I doubt anyone could make one better.
All this and the fact that the client still sometimes "skips" key input when having even the slightest client lag (graphical lag) as well as the fact that being able to script at a 20 fps frame rate is much harder then the more precise updating that a normal Graal window has.

It's not the scripted rc but rather the nature of the Graal client as well as text controls with-in it.
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:13 PM
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All this and the fact that the client still sometimes "skips" key input when having even the slightest client lag (graphical lag) as well as the fact that being able to script at a 20 fps frame rate is much harder then the more precise updating that a normal Graal window has.

It's not the scripted rc but rather the nature of the Graal client as well as text controls with-in it.
Exactly! Graal GUI's will never be able to match a Windows interface, and that's a big problem. There are tons of problems related to just typing, that on their own seem pretty small, but they make a huge difference.
There are benefits to scripted tools, but I don't think they're worth it. I'd rather just see it back to the way it used to be with updates on the current external tools.
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Old 02-07-2008, 11:16 PM
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Exactly! Graal GUI's will never be able to match a Windows interface, and that's a big problem. There are tons of problems related to just typing, that on their own seem pretty small, but they make a huge difference.
There are benefits to scripted tools, but I don't think they're worth it. I'd rather just see it back to the way it used to be with updates on the current external tools.
You know, I'd really be fine with scripted tools as a substitute for hard-coded ones to be used on other platforms, but I won't use them unless they can get a few kinks ironed out. Right now I've got VMware Fusion running XP with RC on one screen, and on this screen, the Graal client (neither Fusion nor Parallels support the DirectX that Graal needs, and OpenGL lags it horribly.
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Old 02-07-2008, 11:55 PM
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Exactly! Graal GUI's will never be able to match a Windows interface, and that's a big problem. There are tons of problems related to just typing, that on their own seem pretty small, but they make a huge difference.
There are benefits to scripted tools, but I don't think they're worth it. I'd rather just see it back to the way it used to be with updates on the current external tools.
External windows could make it seem more like the Windows interface. Stefan has shown that he has a version that allows external windows... hasn't released it yet .
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