Kingdoms...

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

actually my character is a 401 year old vampire who joined zormite i think last year...so he's no fish person. I guess we trying to diversify or something

LOL

[CABAL49]

Zormite was no longer xenophobic under Zero Hour, as he said that the humans had helped us reclaim our kingdom from the drows. But I don't think people really bothered to used fish heads in Kingdoms. I always have the blue fishman head on. Hide my hat for that sexy fin.

Edit: There was also the Dustari-Zormite wedding.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

BOTH the "fishman" AND the "fishfish" heads were created to be used for Zormite. Actually, I'm just assuming the "fishman" head was created for Zormite, and I think you'll agree. But I'm certain the "fishfish" head was created for Zormite as well. And I'm not 100% sure which came first, but I'm inclined to say "fishfish" heads came first.

One would assume the head with the lower number came first. The fishfish (khead52.png) head is the food image, and the same fish you can catch with a fishing rod. The fishman is khead21.png. Are you telling me that a Zormite is nothing more than a fish with a human body jutting out of its stomach?

The only thing I see "Zormite" about the fishfish is that it somewhat resembles head10.png, which wasn't a food image.

[Gothika]

Originally Posted by kia345

Are you telling me that a Zormite is nothing more than a fish with a human body jutting out of its stomach?

Taking into account the Zormite-Dustari wedding. Fish and humans breeding would produce some fish/human hybrid correct? Thus leaving the human body with a fish head.

[kia345]

Then why would it be an entire fish as a head?

[Elizabeth]

im not a fish

[Gothika]

Originally Posted by kia345

Then why would it be an entire fish as a head?

Because the fish is that size?.. not an RP reason but yeah. Making a total fish/human would be impossible to set the gani's too.

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

im not a fish

No one is.. save PoJo and Cabal.

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

This is frusterating. But I'll give this another try

Originally Posted by kia345

One would assume the head with the lower number came first.

You would assume that, but there's always been gaps in the numbering scheme... like there might have been heads 40-50, while there's no 20-40 (just picking random numbers as an example). So, you can't just rely on the numbers to know which came first.

Originally Posted by kia345

The fishfish (khead52.png) head is the food image, and the same fish you can catch with a fishing rod.

No, I don't think it's the EXACT same image. I believe it's modified to be a head, but yes, for all practical purposes it does look the same. And yes, it does suck, and that's why I think it was made before the "fishman" head.

Originally Posted by kia345

Are you telling me that a Zormite is nothing more than a fish with a human body jutting out of its stomach?

Nope. I don't know enough about Zormite, but I'm fairly sure a fishfish head is still more appropriate than a human head. And of course the fishman head is better. Zormites should at LEAST use the fishman head(s). Also, if you don't know what a Zormite is- lurk moar.
Use the Graal Bible, use the forums. Learn your kingdom history.

Originally Posted by Gothika

Taking into account the Zormite-Dustari wedding. Fish and humans breeding would produce some fish/human hybrid correct? Thus leaving the human body with a fish head.

No, not correct considering Zormites and humans reproduce in two different ways. I don't think they can cross-breed? In fact, isn't that what defines a species in biology- the ability to reproduce with others of that same species?

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

im not a fish

And that's why we're having this debate.

Graal 2001 had human bodies, and Zormite heads seem to work fine. Now that there's a decent Zormite head, this should also work fine with one exception- human colored hands. That's the only problem I see. Also, a more diverse selection of "fishman" heads would be appropriate. And by "diverse" I mean simple recolors would be fine.

Okay, so abandon the fish-fish heads and use the fishman heads. My only point about the fish-fish heads is that they WERE made for the purpose of Zormite use.

[CABAL49]

Even I don't pretend to know how a Zormation reproduces. But Zormite does allow humans in. Look up Zero Hour, his old posts will explain why Zormite no longer are a bunch of xenophobic fish people. Zormi are still the majority in the grand scheme of things.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by CABAL49

Even I don't pretend to know how a Zormation reproduces. But Zormite does allow humans in. Look up Zero Hour, his old posts will explain why Zormite no longer are a bunch of xenophobic fish people. Zormi are still the majority in the grand scheme of things.

That Zero Hour fellow was a handsome devil.

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by Stephen

That Zero Hour fellow was a handsome devil.

No they meet in ponds, put their spawn into the swamps of zormite, and then after some times newbies pop out.

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by CABAL49

Even I don't pretend to know how a Zormation reproduces.

I guess not, seeing as you're calling them "Zormations" anyways.

Originally Posted by CABAL49

Look up Zero Hour, his old posts will explain why Zormite no longer are a bunch of xenophobic fish people. Zormi are still the majority in the grand scheme of things.

I will, but I fail to believe I'll find anything reasonable. And it would also help if you'd try explaining it to me, since you seem to know instead of just sending me to find it for myself x.x

Originally Posted by CABAL49

Zormi are still the majority in the grand scheme of things.

But they're really not... you hardly see any members with Zormite-heads, not to mention leaders.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

But they're really not... you hardly see any members with Zormite-heads, not to mention leaders.

I don't see the majority of Gk RPing though, so this point if null.

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by kia345

I don't see the majority of Gk RPing though, so this point if null.

Kingdom leaders shouldn't say "people aren't RPing so let's give up". They should think about what they can do to improve RPing.

Zormite leaders shouldn't say "people aren't RPing so let's stop being fish".
They should think about what they can do to restore their kingdom to being... well, Zormites.

[kia345]

Get your eye patch and go sink everyone, looting their safes and raping their women. Go be a pirate*. All the time. Now.


*the accepted term; not the awesome holy pirates.

[Ravenblade1979]

*smacks forehead* Look my character won't wear a fish head...he's who he is and no matter how much of a zormite i become he won't change.

[kia345]

I'm sure a Zormite could be infected with a vampiric disease.

[Ravenblade1979]

Wanna try it out pojo?

[Gothika]

This is why a selected few have access to debug in kingdoms. To work on stuff the kingdom needs/wants. Just get Zormite's development team together and sort out some new heads. Simple.

[CABAL49]

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

But they're really not... you hardly see any members with Zormite-heads, not to mention leaders.

All NPC's on the island are Zormi, they still count.

After the rebellion against the drows, according to Zero Hour when he was Emporer, the humans helped us. Afterwards Zormite Republic became more tolerant. We are still always looking for an excuse to go to war with Samurai if thats any consolation.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by CABAL49

After the rebellion against the drows, according to Zero Hour when he was Emporer, the humans helped us. Afterwards Zormite Republic became more tolerant.

It doesn't have anything to do with the drows. Zormite has been mostly human since Zen. Even on 2K1 the kingdom was never Zormites-only because there were Bomy members (and at one point, a Bomy emperor).

[CABAL49]

I joined Zormite under Wren So I only know so far, but I just know people complained that Zero Hour was not Xenophobic enough.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by kia345

Get your eye patch and go sink everyone, looting their safes and raping their women. Go be a pirate*. All the time. Now.


*the accepted term; not the awesome holy pirates.

Aye, aye ye' smelly fishman. Or was it fishfish..?