An old problem with GK

Ziro_of_the_Turks · #1 12-11-2007, 10:36 PM

There's plenty of great systems, but they do very little to help with competitive gameplay.

First, let me explain what "success" means in GK.

A successful player has a high level, good items, rare items, and a good weapon.

In order to get a high level, you must go kill monsters. Haunted House. Underground dungeon. Treasure maps. Lords. This will level your wisdom, magic, and physique. Naturally, it's not as easy to level mental, agility, and personality (am i missing one?) Personality and agility are a very much more difficult to level than physique, magic, and wisdom. I can understand personality... as their is no official class for it (what would it be? Bard?). But there IS a theif class, and once you get to level 8 agility, I found it hard to continue (even while using RoT's which I should NOT be able to afford at level 8 anyways).

Now, as for making money. It seems the best way to make money is by collecting/selling monster drops or by doing the quests.

Here's what systems are being neglected:

Agriculture: People will say farming is only for "fun". Guess what? The whole game is supposed to be for "fun". So agriculture should have been balanced to have more importance in the game. One of the problems with it is "create food" making it not very helpful. Also, monster drops can feed people quite easily. When I made the transition from G2k1 to G2K2 (GK) back in 2002, I had much difficulty due to the fact that I thought I could carry my G2k1 lifestyle over to G2k2. That lifestyle was farming. On G2k1, plenty of players such as myself would spend all day farming in order to earn money. It's true that this was a totally different game, but the opportunity to make use of the system is here on GK as well. Some people wanna be farmers, not everyone wants to be a monster-killer.

Baking: This goes hand-in-hand with agriculture. But if the systems were tweaked enough, you could have much commerce occurring between bakers and farmers.

Mining: There is some profit in this today, but still can only take you so far.

Crafting: Hey, what if we lived in a world where good weapons and armour were crafted instead of magically created in a cauldron? Maybe blacksmiths would exist.

Well, I hope you've learned the point from my poorly-written explanation of GK's lack of options.

The potential is there. The systems exist. But it's not made to use.
In this way, the game has always been lacking balance.

Pimmeh · #2 12-11-2007, 10:38 PM

I completely concur

Poke up the globals for changes, though I give you a slim chance....

cyan3 · #3 12-12-2007, 01:49 AM

I agree, GK has lots of potential thats just not getting used.

MasterNuke · #4 12-12-2007, 03:34 AM

All problems with GK are old problems.

ViperZakuto · #5 12-12-2007, 04:13 AM

just about... too bad we don't have a steady bug fixer =/

BigBear3 · #6 12-12-2007, 04:56 AM

My character doesn't get exp. from crafting, baking, agriculture, mining, etc. Errr. I wish I did. I sure do a lot of it.

Ziro_of_the_Turks · #7 12-12-2007, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterNuke

All problems with GK are old problems.

Well... that battle island crap is fairly new.

MasterNuke · #8 12-12-2007, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

Well... that battle island crap is fairly new.

Battle island is a result of an old problem.

cyan3 · #9 12-12-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterNuke

Battle island is a result of an old problem.

Ravenblade?

Ravenblade1979 · #10 12-12-2007, 04:27 PM

Funny. Its not my project anymore anyways. You have a problem with it goto Tig.

And these topics are getting way too old. Same thing over and over again. Start pming stefan and bjorn.

ViperZakuto · #11 12-13-2007, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cyan3

Ravenblade?

I think he was saying the problems with battle island have always been a problem on gk. =)

Ziro_of_the_Turks · #12 12-13-2007, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

And these topics are getting way too old. Same thing over and over again. Start pming stefan and bjorn.

These topics are getting old because the problem IS old. (note the thread title)

No point in PMing Stefan and Bjorn.
They read these forums like everyone else or even "moderate" them.

A single PM shows the opinion of a single person. A thread with a bunch of responses shows a bunch of people's opinions.

Unless you're suggesting we flood Bjorn and Stefan's pm-box?

I think our current method is more productive.

These threads will only continue untill the problem is solved or at least some progress is shown towards a solution.

Right now we have nothing. It doesn't even look like anything is being worked on. Whatever happened to those air-balloons that were supposed add a new dimension to GK?

Ravenblade1979 · #13 12-13-2007, 04:10 AM

Air balloons will be added...give it some time.

ViperZakuto · #14 12-13-2007, 04:16 AM

stuff is being worked on by tig and bjorn. Also others that i don't know of are probably helping them also. Two people working on a server is going to take a long time... plus, most of these problems that need to be fixed... can only be fixed by stefan himself. He doesn't want others having his code and he is busy with client bugs and G3D

Rufus · #15 12-13-2007, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Air balloons will be added...give it some time.

Saying that is so last year.