Esteria Returns!

[Cherrykao]

the characters on Esteria look very similar to this game: Sylph Online.

http://www.sylphonline.com/forums/

http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/foru...s.asp?TID=4898

perhaps just a coincidence?

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Cherrykao

perhaps just a coincidence?

Probably just some "inspiration".

[Crow]

That game probably got their "inspiration" or how you want to call it from the same sprites Angelu looked at, or something similar. It's a basic style which was done alot of time in lots of different games. Angelu used some sprites made by some other graphics artist which name I forgot as a reference back then. No, he didnt play Graal. Atleast I dont think so ;P

[Kyranki]

Originally Posted by Cherrykao

the characters on Esteria look very similar to this game: Sylph Online.

http://www.sylphonline.com/forums/

http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/foru...s.asp?TID=4898

perhaps just a coincidence?

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[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Cherrykao

the characters on Esteria look very similar to this game: Sylph Online.

http://www.sylphonline.com/forums/

http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/foru...s.asp?TID=4898

perhaps just a coincidence?

Do you have a point? Are we supposed to care or something? Are you just looking for ways to start a conflict?

[Horrified]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Do you have a point? Are we supposed to care or something? Are you just looking for ways to start a conflict?

It's how people get there kicks.

He doesn't even work for the game and/or endorse it, people just enjoy saying things to upset people who work hard on there crap, show it off and always want to be the one who starts the negativity.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Do you have a point? Are we supposed to care or something? Are you just looking for ways to start a conflict?

Or you know...just pointing out a similarity. No way in that sentence even closely suggested he wanted to start a conflict. We all could say graal looks like zelda because its true. Or was your post just a way to rant on someone else?

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Or you know...just pointing out a similarity. No way in that sentence even closely suggested he wanted to start a conflict. We all could say graal looks like zelda because its true. Or was your post just a way to rant on someone else?

Read the post above yours. There was no reason for such a thing to be mentioned other than if you wanted to accuse someone of stealing/copying graphics or such. If Cherrykao does graphics or works on a playerworld I would think those are the words of a jealous person.

My opinion of people on Graal isn't high enough for me to believe that he is simply pointing it out for the sake of pointing it out.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Horrified

It's how people get there kicks.

He doesn't even work for the game and/or endorse it, people just enjoy saying things to upset people who work hard on there crap, show it off and always want to be the one who starts the negativity.

That's your first post I actually like.

Originally Posted by Inverness

My opinion of people on Graal isn't high enough for me to believe that he is simply pointing it out for the sake of pointing it out.

I agree with you. He probably didnt point that out just for the sake of it...


Seriously, why are some people always ****ing around and say things are stolen? That's just wrong. Don't say it's being stolen until you got a clear proof that shows that it is.

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by Crow

Seriously, why are some people always ****ing around and say things are stolen? That's just wrong. Don't say it's being stolen until you got a clear proof that shows that it is.

Stealing in general is a tradition common among our species. As we've developed more technology and made mass communication more readily available throughout history, it's only natural that the scope and frequency of theft have increased along with it, along with any respective levels of complaint. What's more interesting to me is how 'issues' with things like this only arise after a comfort level (or point of no return) has been sufficiently crossed and becomes mass-mediated. It's even more strange that issues in general are cherrypicked in trends based on public notariety and centralized around only those issues that obtain a truly negative standpoint. The way people act in general almost always displays the notion of "Do as I say, not as I do." and rarely offers any real solution to the problem.

In any event, I totally agree with what you're saying, regarding legitmate proof before an accusation is made. Similarities are the basis for which questions, improvements, and transcending norms are built from. In reality, they help to add a sense of cohesion to society, where execution is more important than simply the essence of the broader, original picture. Afterall, nobody's going to try to say that after the first RPG was made, any RPG that followed was a rip-off solely on the basis that it's an RPG (because that'd be ridiculous).

[Spark910]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Do you have a point? Are we supposed to care or something? Are you just looking for ways to start a conflict?

Get him back with the "YOU ARE BREAKING THE RULES DONT POST LINKS / MMORPG TALK" knock-out blow.

[Cherrykao]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Do you have a point? Are we supposed to care or something? Are you just looking for ways to start a conflict?

I apoligize. I am not trying to start a fight and I know you don't care about my earlier post. I was just curious if the creator(s) of Esteria were probably from Sylph Online too. When I went to Esteria for the first time, I was told about Sylph Online and that's how I knew about Sylph Online. I'm not sure if he was staff and I'm sorta new to Graal too and figuring stuff out for myself. Seems like the community here isn't really friendly.

I know the pixels are NOT the exact same, but I only mentioned it because the character styles are similar:

head from Esteria:


character from Sylph Online:


character from Esteria:

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Cherrykao

I apoligize. I am not trying to start a fight and I know you don't care about my earlier post. I was just curious if the creator(s) of Esteria were probably from Sylph Online too. When I went to Esteria for the first time, I was told about Sylph Online and that's how I knew about Sylph Online. I'm not sure if he was staff and I'm sorta new to Graal too and figuring stuff out for myself. Seems like the community here isn't really friendly.

I know the pixels are NOT the exact same, but I only mentioned it because the character styles are similar:

head from Esteria:


character from Sylph Online:


character from Esteria:

I'm really sorry, I didnt want to be rude. We already lost our main GAT because of someone claiming we would steal graphics though, so it makes me angry kind of. Fact is, though, that our sprites exist since around October 2006. I also watched the process of the Sylph Online sprites, seen on several pixel boards, and as far as I remember, that was actually a bit later...

Edit: To point some things out, our head doesnt look near the same. The ears on our one have almost the same height as the eyes, the eyes are a bit taller, head is taller, our head actually has a chin...
Could do the same with the body, but I guess you get what I mean.