Kingdom dungeons.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

trials need kingdom islands. that is the whole pointof the game. it's not called graal hack and slash...

Yes, and if you want to play the game properly, you should pay. Seriously, Trials are saved now so there is little difference between gold/vip and trials, they shouldn't get kingdom island access, i think this is as far as i'd let them go. And the "whole pointof the game" is not for trials to be given every single benefit that gold/vip has except for table trade access.

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

You know as much of a good idea as this is I doubt the staff really will make the effort to do something like this. They want the trials to be able to talk to us gold/vip members. As much as this was a good idea all we get are beggars/scammers now.

Maybe if enough of us actually pm Stefan he will bring back trial island but the change that should be made is very limited access to gold/vip's. We have everything we want. Let the trials have their own stuff.

Do you mean like a seperate society that can't visit the mainland?

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

Yeah but this way is good for sales. How many people cam back and said why not i will do it. I sure did. if it wasn't like this I couldn't have gotten drawn back into the graal world.

how many people actually joins from trial island? not many, some but not many. most is through gold members that tell people about the game. now you can get the "full effect" with some limitations.

of course you're gonna have scammers. With new people come new scammers. there will always be scammers on gk.

Many people have joined GK from the trial isle. I didn't like it, but no game's nubville is any good... you want trial's to be the same as gold members, this is not the way forward.

[ViperZakuto]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Yes, and if you want to play the game properly, you should pay. Seriously, Trials are saved now so there is little difference between gold/vip and trials, they shouldn't get kingdom island access, i think this is as far as i'd let them go. And the "whole pointof the game" is not for trials to be given every single benefit that gold/vip has except for table trade access.



Do you mean like a seperate society that can't visit the mainland?



Many people have joined GK from the trial isle. I didn't like it, but no game's nubville is any good... you want trial's to be the same as gold members, this is not the way forward.

alright how many trials actually stay trial? they are limited. They can't use boats, can't participate in events, limited sized window, anf they have observer mode every 10 mins for 2-5 mins? how is this the same as gold/vip. Not many people will stay trial because of the headache it causes. I was trial for 1 week then upgraded.

Now when trials were on trial island. you couldn't get the full effect. most people would sign on and say "this sucks" I can't figure out anything. cause a lot of the people are kids. Trial island would turn away more heads then it would get.

You guys have to realize this is a business. this is the best way to get new gold members. There not gonna change it just because your tired of trials begging for stuff... maybe you guys should help out the trials to try and expand the gk community.

this games noobville is good and thats why it will have more and more people come in this way.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

alright how many trials actually stay trial? they are limited. They can't use boats, can't participate in events, limited sized window, anf they have observer mode every 10 mins for 2-5 mins? how is this the same as gold/vip. Not many people will stay trial because of the headache it causes. I was trial for 1 week then upgraded.

Now when trials were on trial island. you couldn't get the full effect. most people would sign on and say "this sucks" I can't figure out anything. cause a lot of the people are kids. Trial island would turn away more heads then it would get.

You guys have to realize this is a business. this is the best way to get new gold members. There not gonna change it just because your tired of trials begging for stuff... maybe you guys should help out the trials to try and expand the gk community.

this games noobville is good and thats why it will have more and more people come in this way.

They have enough already, they should upgrade to get to the kingdom islands...

[ViperZakuto]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

They have enough already, they should upgrade to get to the kingdom islands...

they can already get to kingdoms islands... so the owners of gk must want them to get there.

my point is they can get stuck on kingdom islands and they will prob quit if they do. I don't see any trial noob looking for 8 hours to find his way back from dungeon. that is not good business. if there was sign's along the way they would be able to make it back maybe in 30 mins to an hour instead of 8 or just saying "nobody will help me, I quit this stupid game" Cause i know you're not gonna take the time to show them back. And neither is 99 percent of gk.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

they can already get to kingdoms islands... so the owners of gk must want them to get there.

my point is they can get stuck on kingdom islands and they will prob quit if they do. I don't see any trial noob looking for 8 hours to find his way back from dungeon. that is not good business. if there was sign's along the way they would be able to make it back maybe in 30 mins to an hour instead of 8 or just saying "nobody will help me, I quit this stupid game" Cause i know you're not gonna take the time to show them back. And neither is 99 percent of gk.

Triels don't even know the dungeons lead to the kingdom islands in the first place.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by cyan3

Triels don't even know the dungeons lead to the kingdom islands in the first place.

Not many do, but a few have managed to get stuck on kingdom islands by unsticking through the dungeon.

[ReBorn_Spirit]

Those that get stuck on kingdom isle, can find me in PM, I will help get the back to main, even if it means I have to map out every last inch of those dungeons.

I've put up some signs in known dead ends, please dont burn them, its a pain to map these dungeons.

[sage_scooby]

I dunno about boats. Though maybe just allow them to use the ferries. They are slower ways of getting around than being able to use the crafted boats.

[ViperZakuto]

Originally Posted by sage_scooby

I dunno about boats. Though maybe just allow them to use the ferries. They are slower ways of getting around than being able to use the crafted boats.

thats what my idea was but i forgot it lol.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

they can already get to kingdoms islands... so the owners of gk must want them to get there.

my point is they can get stuck on kingdom islands and they will prob quit if they do. I don't see any trial noob looking for 8 hours to find his way back from dungeon. that is not good business. if there was sign's along the way they would be able to make it back maybe in 30 mins to an hour instead of 8 or just saying "nobody will help me, I quit this stupid game" Cause i know you're not gonna take the time to show them back. And neither is 99 percent of gk.

Them being able to get there doesn't mean staff wanted them to get there, it just means that staff overlooked one of the methods of getting to the kingdom islands. Just like when trial island came, trials were allowed on boats, and they used them to get to mainland, this did not mean staff wanted them to get to mainland, it just meant they overlooked that possibiliy, so they banned them from using boats.

Dungeon's don't need signs you *****, they are there to be explored, for players to learn the routes, the short-cuts to get around GK.

Trials should be warped back to the dungeon entrance in main if they unstick in a kingdom island.

[ViperZakuto]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Them being able to get there doesn't mean staff wanted them to get there, it just means that staff overlooked one of the methods of getting to the kingdom islands. Just like when trial island came, trials were allowed on boats, and they used them to get to mainland, this did not mean staff wanted them to get to mainland, it just meant they overlooked that possibiliy, so they banned them from using boats.

Dungeon's don't need signs you *****, they are there to be explored, for players to learn the routes, the short-cuts to get around GK.

Trials should be warped back to the dungeon entrance in main if they unstick in a kingdom island.

I guess Stefan told you that he overlooked it? So unless he tells you that then you should not assume... Cause he is prolly the sole person scripted it. Maybe a little help from bjorn.

I have not seen in this post from any other staff member saying it was overlooked... so somthing still needs done.

Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit

Those that get stuck on kingdom isle, can find me in PM, I will help get the back to main, even if it means I have to map out every last inch of those dungeons.

I've put up some signs in known dead ends, please dont burn them, its a pain to map these dungeons.

I noticed that. but when the server is restarted they will disappear. =(

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

I guess Stefan told you that he overlooked it? So unless he tells you that then you should not assume... Cause he is prolly the sole person scripted it. Maybe a little help from bjorn.

I have not seen in this post from any other staff member saying it was overlooked... so somthing still needs done.

You made the first assumption by saying the owners wanted it to be like that. I just said they may have overlooked it.