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Old 07-19-2007, 04:09 PM
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Well big shot sounds possible with major tweakage but the others...no
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yea dude, these aren't very good, I just don''t like it :/ sounds to phantisy, zone is a "futuristic" shooter, not a "phantasy" shooter
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:06 PM
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Tommy gun - firepower - shoots a wide spread of bullets the spread of chaingun at the SMG speed and it does dmg equal to the gun that looked like tsunami's attempt at making an AK47
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Old 07-21-2007, 07:51 AM
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each shot is worth 40 damage at close range? it fires 4 bullets that do 10 dmg each? xD
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I was about to post about a lighting rifle lol :P
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:40 AM
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Tommy gun - firepower - shoots a wide spread of bullets the spread of chaingun at the SMG speed and it does dmg equal to the gun that looked like tsunami's attempt at making an AK47
Tommy Gun is from Era.

Im not sure if this idea was submitted, but here it is.

Space-Cannon

Description: This heavy gun, is avaliable to buy! However, it requires atleast 100,000 experience points to use. What this gun does, is shoot out black balls of light. Another special effect, is that if you hold (D), a black hole is created, which drags your targets into it, making them unable to move until it dissapears.

The idea needs to be worked on, but I think in general it's a decent concept.
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Tommy Gun is from Era.

Im not sure if this idea was submitted, but here it is.

Space-Cannon

Description: This heavy gun, is avaliable to buy! However, it requires atleast 100,000 experience points to use. What this gun does, is shoot out black balls of light. Another special effect, is that if you hold (D), a black hole is created, which drags your targets into it, making them unable to move until it dissapears.

The idea needs to be worked on, but I think in general it's a decent concept.
its function is similar to the ice cannon.
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:26 PM
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Space-Cannon

Description: This heavy gun, is avaliable to buy! However, it requires atleast 100,000 experience points to use. What this gun does, is shoot out black balls of light. Another special effect, is that if you hold (D), a black hole is created, which drags your targets into it, making them unable to move until it dissapears.

The idea needs to be worked on, but I think in general it's a decent concept.
It sounds quite good. However with the D attack, perhaps the hole should start pulling people people into it? And whoever gets dragged inside dies. To begin with the hole will start off very small and have little drag on the players around. The players at this time will be able to walk against the pull and make it to safety. If you hold D for a prolonged time the drag will increase and eventually a full black hole will be formed. Vehicles are the only things that can escape its grasp.

While creating the black hole, ammo should be consumed at a moderate pace. If the black hole creator dies in the process of forming one, the black hole collapses on itself.

Note: The Black Hole will have a limited range in what it can pull in.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:30 PM
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Tommy Gun is from Era.

Im not sure if this idea was submitted, but here it is.

Space-Cannon

Description: This heavy gun, is avaliable to buy! However, it requires atleast 100,000 experience points to use. What this gun does, is shoot out black balls of light. Another special effect, is that if you hold (D), a black hole is created, which drags your targets into it, making them unable to move until it dissapears.

The idea needs to be worked on, but I think in general it's a decent concept.
Thomson Gun is in a lot of modern servers so why can't it be here? I wanna make a Wedgie Mafia! >:]
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:37 PM
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It sounds quite good. However with the D attack, perhaps the hole should start pulling people people into it? And whoever gets dragged inside dies. To begin with the hole will start off very small and have little drag on the players around. The players at this time will be able to walk against the pull and make it to safety. If you hold D for a prolonged time the drag will increase and eventually a full black hole will be formed. Vehicles are the only things that can escape its grasp.

While creating the black hole, ammo should be consumed at a moderate pace. If the black hole creator dies in the process of forming one, the black hole collapses on itself.

Note: The Black Hole will have a limited range in what it can pull in.
I like!

And also, the reason we should not have Tommy Gun, is because thats more of an Italian Mafia type name. If you want an automatic gun, change the name to like something sexy, like Xm8 (obviously not that name because Era has the same gun!)
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:19 AM
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Old 07-23-2007, 04:05 AM
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Neither is Muramasa, or SMG or KV24 or KV9 need I go on?
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Neither is Muramasa, or SMG or KV24 or KV9 need I go on?
John has an extremely vague point though. The muramasa, smg, etc do not really have a certain personality that some weapons like the Tommy Gun possess. The Tommy Gun is usually associated with the Italian Mafia, and that is its distinctive character. Whereas the others you mentioned hardly have a personality.
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:05 PM
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I see your point but when it comes to strictly talking about if the weapon isn't futuristic enough, then the Tommy Gun should be able to fit in with all the others. Just because we don't use a weapon or hear about it as much doesn't mean it's still not around and capable of being used.
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Tommy Gun is from Era.

Im not sure if this idea was submitted, but here it is.

Space-Cannon

Description: This heavy gun, is avaliable to buy! However, it requires atleast 100,000 experience points to use. What this gun does, is shoot out black balls of light. Another special effect, is that if you hold (D), a black hole is created, which drags your targets into it, making them unable to move until it dissapears.

The idea needs to be worked on, but I think in general it's a decent concept.
Black balls of light? That's quite impossible, my friend. Also, I reckon they should do damage if you get stuck on them.
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Black balls of light? That's quite impossible, my friend. Also, I reckon they should do damage if you get stuck on them.
You know what I mean, it's a black ball I didnt know how to explain it.

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I like!

And also, the reason we should not have Tommy Gun, is because thats more of an Italian Mafia type name.
lol Stefan was taling about a mexican salsa hat on zone, so why can't there be an italian mafia gun on zone? the post is on page 3 of the international bodies thread in gfx submissions lol or in pojo's sig
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lol Stefan was taling about a mexican salsa hat on zone, so why can't there be an italian mafia gun on zone? the post is on page 3 of the international bodies thread in gfx submissions lol or in pojo's sig
Yeah but, Zone isnt a gangster-style server. I think the idea is fine, just not the name. Although, we do have quite a bit of automatic shooting style guns.
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Yeah but, Zone isnt a gangster-style server. I think the idea is fine, just not the name. Although, we do have quite a bit of automatic shooting style guns.
we have a lot of the same kind of guns with a few minor tweaks here and there,
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we have a lot of the same kind of guns with a few minor tweaks here and there,
Which is why the other night, Zone's playercount was at 0!

Which means, if that countinued (I know it wont but still), and at the time 15 people were playing GK.

Which means those were probrably the only people who renewed

15x50(about)=750$

Big profit? I think not!
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Which is why the other night, Zone's playercount was at 0!

Which means, if that countinued (I know it wont but still), and at the time 15 people were playing GK.

Which means those were probrably the only people who renewed

15x50(about)=750$

Big profit? I think not!
...V5 hasn't been out much, I doubt that many people have renewed in about 3 weeks and why we talking about GK in a zone forums, or a profit, and what does me pointing out that we have a lot of guns with minor tweaks have anything to do with the playercount? rephrase your post please, I don't quite understand
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...V5 hasn't been out much, I doubt that many people have renewed in about 3 weeks and why we talking about GK in a zone forums, or a profit, and what does me pointing out that we have a lot of guns with minor tweaks have anything to do with the playercount? rephrase your post please, I don't quite understand
How could you not understand?

What I am stating, is that if you kepe adding these guns that are nothing new or special, what is that going to do? Stefan mainly cares about the profit, and I respect him for that. Which is why, it is our duty, as Zone, even Graal players to come up with ideas to improve the server. If you notice, whenever a new gun gets added, the playercount goes up 3x fold, a week later, it is less than it was before the gun got added. What trend are we setting? Zone is dead, and im afraid to say it, but Graal might be to. The more and more weapons you add, especially if they are not anything new, the more lag you will have.

Create a weapon that no one would think of, not a gun stolen from Era.
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How could you not understand?

What I am stating, is that if you kepe adding these guns that are nothing new or special, what is that going to do? Stefan mainly cares about the profit, and I respect him for that. Which is why, it is our duty, as Zone, even Graal players to come up with ideas to improve the server. If you notice, whenever a new gun gets added, the playercount goes up 3x fold, a week later, it is less than it was before the gun got added. What trend are we setting? Zone is dead, and im afraid to say it, but Graal might be to. The more and more weapons you add, especially if they are not anything new, the more lag you will have.

Create a weapon that no one would think of, not a gun stolen from Era.
ok, I understand that now, good job rephrasing it for me

but I don't see what is wrong with a gun from Era if it has already been stolen and inserted into 45 hundred other servers :/ and it could be like the thomson from futurama that the robot santa claus used to try to gun down fry and leila :/
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Which is why the other night, Zone's playercount was at 0!

Which means, if that countinued (I know it wont but still), and at the time 15 people were playing GK.

Which means those were probrably the only people who renewed

15x50(about)=750$

Big profit? I think not!
The bolded part is your problem , But i saw Zone's playercount in like the ones yesterday....
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The bolded part is your problem , But i saw Zone's playercount in like the ones yesterday....
If the server was really fun, people would stay up to play it.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH dude im usually up all night in the summer. The max i see is like 5 on Zone at night before V5.
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Yeah, that gun is completely unique to Era, their ideas are so original.
Shut up, Era didn't patent any real world weapons, if Zone wants it, Zone can make it.
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Yeah but, Zone isnt a gangster-style server. I think the idea is fine, just not the name. Although, we do have quite a bit of automatic shooting style guns.
And the server with people running around saying "cry" is?
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And the server with people running around saying "cry" is?
Ehem, It's "cri".
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I see your point but when it comes to strictly talking about if the weapon isn't futuristic enough, then the Tommy Gun should be able to fit in with all the others. Just because we don't use a weapon or hear about it as much doesn't mean it's still not around and capable of being used.
What are you talking about? The Tommy Gun gives off the personality of Gangsta gun-crime. The SMG on the other hand, for example, is flexible in it's personality and can fit into any style shooter. Except, of course, for time periods where it wasn't even invented.
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Yeah, that gun is completely unique to Era, their ideas are so original.
Shut up, Era didn't patent any real world weapons, if Zone wants it, Zone can make it.
Oh, great thinking bud. You did'nt need school to think with that logic!

No, Era did not patent any real world weapons, but why make Zone a gangster server? Just stop with your dumb logic and think, why keep making modern day items in Zone? ITS A FUTURISTIC SERVER, if you dont know what that means than go to dictionary.com and type it in.

We do have modern day weapons, but why keep adding them? Be original, stop coming up with ideas that are just pointless. Sit down, put some good time into an item and say "Would this fit in Zone? Would players like it?
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Ehem, It's "cri".

What are you talking about? The Tommy Gun gives off the personality of Gangsta gun-crime. The SMG on the other hand, for example, is flexible in it's personality and can fit into any style shooter. Except, of course, for time periods where it wasn't even invented.
what about the muramasa, when someone think s of that they think of OLD style things like really old so yeah shoosh
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Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet View Post
Oh, great thinking bud. You did'nt need school to think with that logic!

No, Era did not patent any real world weapons, but why make Zone a gangster server? Just stop with your dumb logic and think, why keep making modern day items in Zone? ITS A FUTURISTIC SERVER, if you dont know what that means than go to dictionary.com and type it in.

We do have modern day weapons, but why keep adding them? Be original, stop coming up with ideas that are just pointless. Sit down, put some good time into an item and say "Would this fit in Zone? Would players like it?
Era has its share of 'futuristic' -ish guns, yell at them for not staying with guns made before the 1920s.

Don't go telling me to say "will this fit Zone" because on Zone you can kill people with carrots and candy canes.

You need to sit down and think "This is Graal, we do what we want"
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