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Darlene159 · #31 07-17-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

You are spending half of your day on these forums and you don't want to pay 1.5USD a month ? You think it's fare?

Those who want to be a part of the Graal community, will upgrade. The forums are not the Graal community.

Twinny · #32 07-17-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud

Perhaps we DO wish to work. Perhaps we wish to keep helping the community in the scripting section, or where ever we are good at.

We are being charged for helping other players. It's seriously not worth upgrading for if virtually all we do is sit in our respective forums and help people.

I get enjoyment out of helping other people learn the language. This is not something I wish to pay for. I would be happy to have ads in forums and even in games.

There are so many free MMOs out there which survive through the use of clever advertising.

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

The forums are not the Graal community.

Who are you trying to kid? Graal wouldn't even have a community without the forums

Darlene159 · #33 07-17-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345

*cough*

Pretty sure VIP is no more? That needs to be changed

cbk1994 · #34 07-17-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

I will probably try that when i go this evening buy my bread:

I am buying each day bread since 7 years so why should i pay for bread any more?

Because the bread has always cost money. These forums have always cost money once, and then you had access for a while.

If when you bought your first bread, you were told you could pay $60 for lifetime bread, and you did it, you would get your bread every day for free. What if someone suddently told you, "Oh, you have to pay for bread again. No more lifetime bread for you!"
Also, why do you keep comparing Graal to bread? x.x

Crono · #35 07-17-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Pretty sure VIP is no more? That needs to be changed

I'm on VIP and posting fine for now.

Crow · #36 07-17-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

You are spending half of your day on these forums and you don't want to pay 1.5USD a month ? You think it's fare?

Actually, I'm only spending like 60-90 minutes on these forums daily. I can also visit some other forums instead of the Graal ones if you want me to do so..I'm never paying for being a member of a forum btw.

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Originally Posted by cbkbud

Also, why do you keep comparing Graal to bread? x.x

Bread is leet.

unixmad · #37 07-17-2007, 05:25 PM

If you start thinking like that then everyone giving a advice to a player will have a good reason to not pay for the service.

We are giving free hosting and support to all classic playerworlds, so when people make interesting projects we are supporting them and we don't ask money.

We are asking 1.5USD/month to be part of the community use 100 computer that are hosting graal, get the graal client ported on most hardware software, server administration ... If you think this price is to much then it's better leaving right now.

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Originally Posted by cbkbud

Perhaps we DO wish to work. Perhaps we wish to keep helping the community in the scripting section, or where ever we are good at.

We are being charged for helping other players. It's seriously not worth upgrading for if virtually all we do is sit in our respective forums and help people.

Darlene159 · #38 07-17-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud

Because the bread has always cost money. These forums have always cost money once, and then you had access for a while.

If when you bought your first bread, you were told you could pay $60 for lifetime bread, and you did it, you would get your bread every day for free. What if someone suddently told you, "Oh, you have to pay for bread again. No more lifetime bread for you!"
Also, why do you keep comparing Graal to bread? x.x

Um, those who got lifetime classic will always have it. I don't get your point. They are getting what was promised to them.

cbk1994 · #39 07-17-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

I'm on VIP and posting fine for now.

VIP is a thing of the past. Actually, VIP never happened. We never got to beta test v5, we never got any of the things we were SUPPOSED to get with VIP, and now it has turned into a Playerworlds Gold Subscription.

Crow · #40 07-17-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

If you start thinking like that then everyone giving a advice to a player will have a good reason to not pay for the service.

We are giving free hosting and support to all classic playerworlds, so when people make interesting projects we are supporting them and we don't ask money.

We are asking 1.5USD/month to be part of the community use 100 computer that are hosting graal, get the graal client ported on most hardware software, server administration ... If you think this price is to much then it's better leaving right now.

Sorry, but I highly doubt Graal is being hosted on 100 damn computers. Seriously.

Darlene159 · #41 07-17-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

I'm on VIP and posting fine for now.

Because you already had the upgrade, and part of VIP is forum access I believe. No one got what they already had taken away. Your subscription just turned into the playerworld gold subscription I think.

Crono · #42 07-17-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

We are giving free hosting and support to all classic playerworlds, so when people make interesting projects we are supporting them and we don't ask money.
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The classic playerworlds support you, they are the reason why people play Graal and the reason why people upgraded to begin with. Graal can never rely on only Graal Kingdoms and Zone. I'm sure you know this but won't admit it...

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No one got what they already had taken away.

Well, unixmad allowed Classic accounts to also post but changed his mind. But yeah...the forums are originally for gold/vip. I just find it sad that classic accounts get less credit than they deserve.

Twinny · #43 07-17-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

We are asking 1.5USD/month to be part of the community use 100 computer that are hosting graal, get the graal client ported on most hardware software, server administration ... If you think this price is to much then it's better leaving right now.

You could probably make more than that in less that a month if you would at least try to add advertising to non-gold subscribers.

unixmad · #44 07-17-2007, 05:29 PM

Who said you have lifetime access to forums ?

We have sold some lifetime access to classic server, nothing more nothing else... and we are providing the service even if we are loosing money with it.

If no gold subscriber were paying for all the lifetime people playing then graal will be closed since years.

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Originally Posted by cbkbud

Because the bread has always cost money. These forums have always cost money once, and then you had access for a while.

If when you bought your first bread, you were told you could pay $60 for lifetime bread, and you did it, you would get your bread every day for free. What if someone suddently told you, "Oh, you have to pay for bread again. No more lifetime bread for you!"
Also, why do you keep comparing Graal to bread? x.x

cbk1994 · #45 07-17-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by unixmad

it's better leaving right now.

Like I said, noone is going to pay for the Graal forums. I'm actually very close to leaving the forums right now.

With admins who do everything they can to get money (you made the trials use half a screen, for crying out loud!), I'm really almost ready to quit, and unless there is a Universal Mac version of Graal out by the time my VIP runs out, I'm GOING to quit.