The end of zodiac is upon us.

DarkRenji · #1 07-02-2007, 03:52 AM

well we just lost all the staff who ever does anything for us.......

Dc4 [Bomberman] (Sun Jul 01 20:01:07 2007):
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The end of Zodiac is here, Calani has fired Jerret, Puppin has quit and more will follow.

I'll be the first one, good luck... complain to the globals if you want changes made.

jetboom · #2 07-02-2007, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkRenji

well we just lost all the staff who ever does anything for us.......

Dc4 [Bomberman] (Sun Jul 01 20:01:07 2007):
Mass message:
The end of Zodiac is here, Calani has fired Jerret, Puppin has quit and more will follow.

I'll be the first one, good luck... complain to the globals if you want changes made.

Nothings more entertainign then watch a PW destroy itself.

zim5354 · #3 07-02-2007, 04:12 AM

Globals lawl. Anyway eh I didn't play it but it brought life back to Graal for a bit.

zokemon · #4 07-02-2007, 04:48 AM

IM sent to Calani:
Calani, with all this talk about Zodiac being dead and one of your main scripters, Ziro, quitting Graal: I'm suprised you would hold so strongly onto your statement of "I have enough scripters".
Response:
None.

Crono · #5 07-02-2007, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

IM sent to Calani:
Calani, with all this talk about Zodiac being dead and one of your main scripters, Ziro, quitting Graal: I'm suprised you would hold so strongly onto your statement of "I have enough scripters".
Response:
None.

Well he/she is a one man army in terms of scripting.

zokemon · #6 07-02-2007, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Well he/she is a one man army in terms of scripting.

Managers of a classic server should Manage, not script.

Inspiration · #7 07-02-2007, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

Managers of a classic server should Manage, not script.

Uh, not really. Lead by example?

It's not like "managing" takes much work, or any work at all really. More gets done when you do it yourself rather than trusting, or trying to force, others to do it.

Rufus · #8 07-02-2007, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Well he/she is a one man army in terms of scripting.

Oh man..

Googi · #9 07-02-2007, 05:26 AM

Zodiac can probably last for around a year even with no updates provided staff don't try to do something stupid.

MrAnonymous_P2P · #10 07-02-2007, 05:48 AM

I have seen to many servers go down the drain in my 8 years of playing.Surprisingly some of the player worlds that aren't as popular always seem to be doing well with the crowd they have.

ArushenP2P · #11 07-02-2007, 06:54 AM

This is what we get for Managers who have different thoughts and such.

Valikorlia was doing really fine in the old days with the RPAs doing a lot of RP Events. Than Clash decided to flood the server. After that New Val came and it was on the verge of dying. Now Clash left and the server seems to be coming back up.

Maloria was good during v2, and they had the best Event System in Graal History. Anyways what I'm saying is, All servers will end up going down eventually.

jetboom · #12 07-02-2007, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ArushenP2P

This is what we get for Managers who have different thoughts and such.

Valikorlia was doing really fine in the old days with the RPAs doing a lot of RP Events. Than Clash decided to flood the server. After that New Val came and it was on the verge of dying. Now Clash left and the server seems to be coming back up.

Maloria was good during v2, and they had the best Event System in Graal History. Anyways what I'm saying is, All servers will end up going down eventually.

Except Unholy Nation.

Pimmeh · #13 07-02-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jetboom

Except Unholy Nation.

QFT!
Really....why is UN still living?

Crono · #14 07-02-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

Managers of a classic server should Manage, not script.

Oh please, like being a manager really takes up so much time. Calani has nothing to manage, he/she apparentely fired all the staff remember?

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Originally Posted by Pimmeh

QFT!
Really....why is UN still living?

If you stay inside the spar building, UN is pretty cool. Once you step out, well, you're on your own.

ArushenP2P · #15 07-02-2007, 04:17 PM

Did UN have any Manager changes?

I think it's popular and easy to manage thats why, I could be wrong undoubtfully but yeah you get my point.

Elk · #16 07-02-2007, 04:38 PM

they used to change the managers as often as underwear

ArushenP2P · #17 07-02-2007, 04:51 PM

Sounds like Era too me, if anyone remembers that in the old days..

MrAnonymous_P2P · #18 07-02-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ArushenP2P

Sounds like Era too me, if anyone remembers that in the old days..

Ha ha. The good old days where everyone got every gun at the very beginning of the game. And we went through like 5 managers in about a year.

ArushenP2P · #19 07-02-2007, 07:04 PM

I remember that swinging chain. That was very abusive and lame

Crono · #20 07-02-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

Well, she obviously has no time to even Manage so why should she have time to script? Her managing should come first and foremost to her scripting the server. I don't see why someone thought she is a one women team in terms of scripting.

How do you know she has no time? Also you can easily manage/script a server at the same time, I believe Warcaptain did so in 2001 on Enigma and Jesse did the same back when Valikorlia was doing great.

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In short: She does have stuff to Manage, an empty server (staff-wise). The fact that she fired all the staff and aren't hiring new ones to take their place just shows just how much she is managing.

Do you even know about Zodaic's staff?

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I don't mean to be such an ass towards her but I don't like it when people make lies when I offer help.

:[ i stil luv u

Inverness · #21 07-02-2007, 09:42 PM

Managing does not really take up much time, especially if you have Admins or other High Staff to assist you.

Its rather easy to develop and manage at the same time.

WwingG · #22 07-02-2007, 10:58 PM

Calani definately is a one man army..

foxboi · #23 07-03-2007, 12:28 AM

Wasn't Jerret the Owner of the server originally?

Elk wrote:

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they used to change the managers as often as underwear

That's not a precise statement. Half the graal population doesn't wear underwear.

(I do, if you wanted to know

)

Gambet · #24 07-03-2007, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

Jerret was fired by Frotter I guess, not Calani. Calani just has been to inactive to fix things.

Who the hell is Frotter and how can he remove Jerret?

Inverness · #25 07-03-2007, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

I need say so more.

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Originally Posted by Inverness

Managing does not really take up much time, especially if you have Admins or other High Staff to assist you.

Its rather easy to develop and manage at the same time.

Don't be a smart-ass

Managing it simple even without extra help, I was just stating that its make negligible with even more high staff. Whether or not Zodiac has other high staff, management-related things are still doable by one person with much time to spare.

LoneAngelIbesu · #26 07-03-2007, 03:22 AM

Valikorlia just went through everyone quitting, we're still up. If you don't like her/him/it, campaign and get her/him/it fired and start over. Zodiac is pretty self-sustaining from what I've seen, so going through a brief period of managerial change shouldn't really affect it too much.

DarkRenji · #27 07-03-2007, 03:48 AM

Frotter has been PRA for a while.

Nickcom2 · #28 07-03-2007, 04:14 AM

heh...haha ...*starts to laugh a evil laugh*

Inverness · #29 07-03-2007, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

Valikorlia just went through everyone quitting, we're still up. If you don't like her/him/it, campaign and get her/him/it fired and start over. Zodiac is pretty self-sustaining from what I've seen, so going through a brief period of managerial change shouldn't really affect it too much.

Mido + Val = WIN

DarkRenji · #30 07-03-2007, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickcom2

heh...haha ...*starts to laugh a evil laugh*

oh no lol

PrinceDark · #31 07-03-2007, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

How do you know she has no time? Also you can easily manage/script a server at the same time, I believe Warcaptain did so in 2001 on Enigma and Jesse did the same back when Valikorlia was doing great.

Do you even know about Zodaic's staff?

:[ i stil luv u

Don't forget the silly old Manta after Liquid Ice, that pretty much layed out UNs foundation for years to come.

Inverness · #32 07-03-2007, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

My point is she has no time for either.

And you know this how?

zokemon · #33 07-03-2007, 09:31 AM

Okay, I should appoligize. I guess these people that got fired were trying to bring Yen back into power on Zodiac. So I'm sorry for all the statements that I made towards Calani.

Twinny · #34 07-03-2007, 09:43 AM

Now I'm the only developer apart from Calani

HolySheepy · #35 07-03-2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinny

Now I'm the only developer apart from Calani

you killed me with your admin message <.<

coreys · #36 07-03-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by foxboi

Wasn't Jerret the Owner of the server originally?

No, that would be Zeus...I was one of the first staff ever, and yet the server was way better back then, when it was a crappy noob classic-style server with like 4 levels...which is pretty sad.

Zodiac was meant to die down soon enough from the start.

Darlene159 · #37 07-03-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by coreys

No, that would be Zeus...I was one of the first staff ever, and yet the server was way better back then, when it was a crappy noob classic-style server with like 4 levels...which is pretty sad.

Zodiac was meant to die down soon enough from the start.

I don't understand where this statement comes from. I really like Zodiac. I am a big fan of Classic-ness, but Zodiac is different without all the guns that Era and Zone have, which I hate.
I am finding it interesting to level and see what weapons and spells I can get next, and what they do, and am looking forward to when I can kill the ones who keep killing me when I try to level.

Crono · #38 07-03-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I don't understand where this statement comes from. I really like Zodiac. I am a big fan of Classic-ness, but Zodiac is different without all the guns that Era and Zone have, which I hate.
I am finding it interesting to level and see what weapons and spells I can get next, and what they do, and am looking forward to when I can kill the ones who keep killing me when I try to level.

Gets very boring and grindish after level 35. If you're like me and have played other MMORPG's, you get bored of Zodiac quite quickly. That and I was already level 43 then they reset us

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Zodaic's successful gameplay comes from (Yen told me this himself) the fact that they ripped several games.

Katono · #39 07-03-2007, 06:10 PM

it would be nice if they were to increase the XP but that isnt happening.... not only that increase the respawns cause waiting just doesnt cut it.... there are so many people that want to do the same thing at the same time and with the respawns set to a certain time it is hard to get your chance

Crono · #40 07-03-2007, 06:35 PM

The respawn time and amount of monsters should be based on the amount of players in the level, not just a fixed amount of monsters with a long ass respawn time.