Vista Final - Page 8

Alure1316 · #**281** 06-23-2007, 12:23 AM

@stefan: i disabled bitmap fonts (faster and smoother) and unchecked dpi and then i tried it with disabling visual themes and it doesn't work, crashes when you try to open a PM.

@angel light: oops i forgot to put that i checked visual themes as well. (i'll edit my post)

D4rKv310c1ty · #**282** 06-23-2007, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Alure1316

ok i fixed it

graal doesn't crash randomly nor does it crash when i open PMs.

go to compatibility and run in Windows XP (SP2) mode and check the box for "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings" :edit: AND "Disable Visual Theme"

btw my pc specs:

AMD Athlon 64 Processor XP 3500+
2047 MB RAM
32-bit OS (VISTA)
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS (with latest nvidia drivers)

graal finally works! yay!

A 64 XP? You mean 64? The XP series stopped at 3200.

Not that it's relevant :P

Moondeath_2 · #**283** 06-23-2007, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Delta2004

My graphics driver is updated. Here's some information on my Laptop:

-AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MT-32 , 1.80GHz

-ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M Series

-1470 RAM

-Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)

Here's my System Rating:

Processor : 3.7

RAM : 2.9

Graphics : 2.8

Game Graphics : 2.7

Primary Hard Disk : 4.1

Overall : 2.7

I feel bad for you.. mine out ranks that over a mile.. then again you said that's form your lappy.

Angel_Light · #**284** 06-23-2007, 04:32 AM

Finally some progress with Vista. Question for Stefan. Why exactly can't you get Graal running smooth with Vista? No need to use baby Talk I'll understand what you say. Or is it you fixed it justhavent released the version do to other bugs/errors.

Moondeath_2 · #**285** 06-23-2007, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light

Finally some progress with Vista. Question for Stefan. Why exactly can't you get Graal running smooth with Vista? No need to use baby Talk I'll understand what you say. Or is it you fixed it justhavent released the version do to other bugs/errors.

What do you mean by "smooth", I don't follow you.

Angel_Light · #**286** 06-23-2007, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Moondeath_2

What do you mean by "smooth", I don't follow you.

Haha, no graphical errors, no random crashes (Though I think alure fixed that) No having to use the compatibility mode, so on and so forth

Moondeath_2 · #**287** 06-23-2007, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light

Haha, no graphical errors, no random crashes (Though I think alure fixed that) No having to use the compatibility mode, so on and so forth

Ah..can't help you there my FAQ brain powers end there I've been searching and searching other places on ways to stop this but I haven't found any answers lets just hope stefan does it eventually he's smart.. he'll get it .. hopefully.. keheh

Angel_Light · #**288** 06-23-2007, 04:44 AM

Haha, yup, be kinda sad if the Lead Coder of Graal can't make it Vista compatible. I still don't think it be that hard though. Although what do I know. XD

Moondeath_2 · #**289** 06-23-2007, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light

Haha, no graphical errors, no random crashes (Though I think alure fixed that) No having to use the compatibility mode, so on and so forth

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light

Haha, yup, be kinda sad if the Lead Coder of Graal can't make it Vista compatible. I still don't think it be that hard though. Although what do I know. XD

Well I cannot *help* you and cannot him aswell.. I am still a "noobie" at coding other languages which i'm learning right now: C++, Java(Don't ask I felt like doing some more of this), delphi, and a couple other things.. I have alot of free time on my hands and yeah it would be sad if he couldn't fix it but right now I think him fixing graal's little "exploits" like the wall hacking and such should be top prioity. Aswell as the playerworlds being "hacked/hijacked" kehe. ^_~

Angel_Light · #**290** 06-23-2007, 04:58 AM

Yeah, I know he'll fix it one day. I teaching myself Ruby, pointless language to know but interesting none the less. :P There are always going to be manipulators* in Graal. Not much we can truly do but build better defenses.

*Notice I call them Manipulators not hackers. Hackers code for the betterment of the community, Manipulators code for the betterment of themselves.

Moondeath_2 · #**291** 06-23-2007, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light

Yeah, I know he'll fix it one day. I teaching myself Ruby, pointless language to know but interesting none the less. :P There are always going to be manipulators* in Graal. Not much we can truly do but build better defenses.

*Notice I call them Manipulators not hackers. Hackers code for the betterment of the community, Manipulators code for the betterment of themselves.

Ruby is actually pretty fun.

Angel_Light · #**292** 06-23-2007, 05:11 AM

Syntax is quite hard in my opinion, it's being quite a hassel XD. Other than that it is fun.

Moondeath_2 · #**293** 06-23-2007, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light

Syntax is quite hard in my opinion, it's being quite a hassel XD. Other than that it is fun.

heh I suppose..

Alure1316 · #**294** 06-23-2007, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by D4rKv310c1ty

A 64 XP? You mean 64? The XP series stopped at 3200.

Not that it's relevant :P

OOOOPS

my old processor was XP LOl

this is a new one and i'm used to saying 3200 XP

Delta2004 · #**295** 06-26-2007, 08:48 PM

Well after alot of Vista updates, I've noticed that Graal doesn't crash on me anymore. The only issue now is those animated flowers. :o

Update

Graal did just crash on me. But it's being more stable because I haven't had it crash in weeks for me. I think it was also because I had Graal minimized?

jetboom · #**296** 06-28-2007, 01:49 AM

Graal is unstable on my vista by unstable I mean unplayable. Tried opengl, all compatibility settings etc. No difference

I have the latest updates also.

Angel_Light · #**297** 06-28-2007, 03:16 AM

jetboom have you tried the methods in previous posts using the XP compatibility mode?

zephirot · #**298** 06-28-2007, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jetboom

Graal is unstable on my vista by unstable I mean unplayable. Tried opengl, all compatibility settings etc. No difference

I have the latest updates also.

Totally off topic, but are you JetBoom from Gmod?

WHIPENIE4 · #**299** 06-28-2007, 09:10 AM

right now the main problem i'm having besides the Images going crazy, i dont even have a head on Zodiac i have a blurr.
I can't d/l the Level Editors or Dev Tools, with a server, its kinda difficult to work without those

I don't know if you've covered this yet because I cant spend 2 hours reading all 8 pages of this sorrrry

Angel_Light · #**300** 06-28-2007, 07:14 PM

np, :P to download stuff, move the entire graal folder to C: \

jetboom · #**301** 06-28-2007, 10:47 PM

Can you post all the 'hacks / fixs' on Vista cause Its hard finding them all.

Admins · #**302** 06-28-2007, 11:06 PM

Good news: we made Graal working on Vista 64 bit (will also work on XP 64 bit). So with the next version things will run more smooth

Chompy · #**303** 06-28-2007, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Good news: we made Graal working on Vista 64 bit (will also work on XP 64 bit). So with the next version things will run more smooth

I think someone will see this and be happy :O

jetboom · #**304** 06-28-2007, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chompy

I think someone will see this and be happy :O

Yes everyone who has vista will be happy.

Delta2004 · #**305** 06-29-2007, 02:05 AM

What about Vista - 32 bit?

ArushenP2P · #**306** 06-29-2007, 02:56 AM

Yeah I have a 32-Bit

. Anyways what's the different?

WHIPENIE4 · #**307** 06-29-2007, 03:37 AM

i also have a 32 Bit.....

jetboom · #**308** 06-29-2007, 06:45 AM

32bit should work fine but I'm guessing if 64bit is fixed, It means Vista is probably fixed in general.

Delta2004 · #**309** 06-29-2007, 07:45 AM

Awesome then

Thanks

Vulcan · #**310** 06-29-2007, 08:37 AM

What sort of problems are you guys having on 32-bit versions of Vista?

ArushenP2P · #**311** 06-29-2007, 10:05 AM

Graphical problems = Mostly light graphics and the other graphics are random Discontinuation = Keeps disconnecting randomly
Can't open browser in GraalOnline without having it crash.
PM not working correctly.
OH and GraalEditor has this black line and you get error when you close it that's it.
Graal errors when you close it.
Maybe there is more but I don't know.

WHIPENIE4 · #**312** 06-29-2007, 02:56 PM

pretty much all the stuff they said in the last 8 pages lol. thats about as easy to put it

ArushenP2P · #**313** 06-29-2007, 03:00 PM

Come on developers, find it in your heart to save that bear!

WHIPENIE4 · #**314** 06-29-2007, 03:06 PM

but I have a question. Yes, I always do, I art thou X-Mann..... whatever.

Is there any other way to download the Level Editor and Developer Tool that anyone knows of because graal isnt puttin them on the computer lol....
make it bold so people notice it

Angel_Light · #**315** 06-29-2007, 09:30 PM

to download the packages take your entire Graal folder and put it into the C: \ drive or into a folder that the name has no spaces., I'm guessing the folder path name has "Program Files" in it which there is a space. Also, I have found most fixes for the 32-bit Vista (Other than light gfx screwing up" YOu just need to go to the properties of the files and run it in compatibility mode to fix all of it.

Delta2004 · #**316** 06-29-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light

to download the packages take your entire Graal folder and put it into the C: \ drive or into a folder that the name has no spaces., I'm guessing the folder path name has "Program Files" in it which there is a space. Also, I have found most fixes for the 32-bit Vista (Other than light gfx screwing up" YOu just need to go to the properties of the files and run it in compatibility mode to fix all of it.

I think everyone is using compatibility mode already. I know for me, I am, and it doesn't fix everything for me.

jetboom · #**317** 06-29-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ArushenP2P

Come on developers, find it in your heart to save that bear!

That stuffed animal with a rubber knife to its throat was deemed to intense for graalonline even though if you join a server you will get cussed out beyond belief.

The funny thing is the same post was posted on NVidia's forums and they found it funny I guess this just shows better quality developers have better sense of humors.

This forum is so annoying, No external links, you post a joke and an admin gos crazy.

ArushenP2P · #**318** 06-29-2007, 10:48 PM

Angel_Light · #**319** 06-29-2007, 11:43 PM

to jetBoom: Heh so true.

Delta: the compatibility mode with the options have fixed all the probs for me except the light gfx thing, and guis are still a tad screwy

Delta2004 · #**320** 06-30-2007, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light

Delta: the compatibility mode with the options have fixed all the probs for me except the light gfx thing, and guis are still a tad screwy

The only issues I really have though are random client crashes and the only graphics issues are the animated flower things. But also I've spoken to some other Vista Premium users and they don't have a single issue with Graal. I guess it's different for everyone