GK Fails

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Googi

I have talked to trials about why they don't upgrade to play 2K2. I have never heard 2K2's playercount cited as a reason for not upgrading. Actually, I hardly ever hear anything other than being unable to upgrade (no credit card, etc.)

That's all our excuses man xD.

If GK was actually active in terms of playercount it'd be much more fun in my opinion, along with the fact that it would have a thriving community might make people want to upgrade.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Gerami

If GK was actually active in terms of playercount it'd be much more fun in my opinion, along with the fact that it would have a thriving community might make people want to upgrade.

A trial never experiences this. Community is something that has more "stick" than "pull". It doesn't really bring new players in, but rather it gives people a reason to stay even after they get bored of the gameplay, but gameplay is what pulls new players in.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Googi

A trial never experiences this. Community is something that has more "stick" than "pull". It doesn't really bring new players in, but rather it gives people a reason to stay even after they get bored of the gameplay, but gameplay is what pulls new players in.

Not really. I used to go to GK simply because people actually played it. I'd run around, talk to people, level a little bit, build a house for the sake of having one because all my friends had one too, etc. But once people including my friends stopped playing, I stopped too.

If GK had more players, I don't know if I speak for anyone else but I'd play it more often.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Not really. I used to go to GK simply because people actually played it.

But you aren't a trial.

Originally Posted by Gerami

But once people including my friends stopped playing, I stopped too.

This is pretty much confirming what I just said.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Googi

But you aren't a trial.

I am on weekdays.

This is pretty much confirming what I just said.

They're the main reason why I started too though. Not the gameplay.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Gerami

I am on weekdays.

Which you wouldn't be anymore if 2K2 was made classic.

Originally Posted by Gerami

They're the main reason why I started too though. Not the gameplay.

Right, you somehow deduced that 2K2 had a great community before you even started playing it. What did you do, use your spidey senses?

But let's suppose that this is actually what happened and most other Graal players behave this way (which, of course, isn't true). The reason 2K2 can't attract new players is because it doesn't have enough of a community. If it was made classic, it still wouldn't have enough of a community (because without enough of a community, it wouldn't be able to attract enough players to create enough of a community to attract players). Of course, the fact that 2K2 would attract a lot of new players if it was made classic is alone enough to disprove this.

(You could, of course, say that it would increase its playercount enough just by being "new" to the classic list, except that every server that's new the classic list experiences an initial high playercount because people want to try it out, but only those servers that offer good enough gameplay are able to maintain a high playercount.)

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by Googi

Right, you somehow deduced that 2K2 had a great community before you even started playing it. What did you do, use your spidey senses?

I might have gone into G2k2 thinking it had a great community before playing it.
I had reason to believe this because when G2k1 was the big thing, a friend of mine was playing it for a while, said the community was better on "p2p" than classic, then I tried it and realized (or at least in my opinion) it was true. So I assumed the same to be for G2k2...

Edit: But your point remains. You can't get a lot of players like that... not everyone will think the community is "better"... especially if they're the ones who make the other communities "lower".

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Googi

Right, you somehow deduced that 2K2 had a great community before you even started playing it. What did you do, use your spidey senses?

So just by logging in im automatically branded as "PLAYING FOR GAMEPLAY LOLS"? Dude I only started really playing GK because my friend Phayze was.

But let's suppose that this is actually what happened and most other Graal players behave this way (which, of course, isn't true). The reason 2K2 can't attract new players is because it doesn't have enough of a community. If it was made classic, it still wouldn't have enough of a community (because without enough of a community, it wouldn't be able to attract enough players to create enough of a community to attract players). Of course, the fact that 2K2 would attract a lot of new players if it was made classic is alone enough to disprove this.

Made classic => Players rush in as usual => People like the playercount number and some sort of community forms.

How is what I'm saying so wrong? People in general don't like servers that are almost dead in terms of the amount of players.

(You could, of course, say that it would increase its playercount enough just by being "new" to the classic list, except that every server that's new the classic list experiences an initial high playercount because people want to try it out, but only those servers that offer good enough gameplay are able to maintain a high playercount.)

That's the thing, the gameplay on GK is OK but im still not going to stay because there's no one there. If theres a sudden surge in players im sure it would have a lot of players like it used to.