New approach to trials - Page 3

Crono · #31 06-21-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet

Trial accounts are going to be replaced with guest accounts, or at least that's what Stefan has mentioned before.

So they want to kill Graal even more? Yay.

Darlene159 · #32 06-21-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

So they want to kill Graal even more? Yay.

No, they are a company that has put a lot of work into a product, and they want to make money off of the product that they have put a lot of money and effort into, to make.

Crono · #33 06-21-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

No, they are a company that has put a lot of work into a product, and they want to make money off of the product that they have put a lot of money and effort into, to make.

Why'd you say "no"? I understand that they have to profit and everything but they killed off a lot of members back when they put the whole "p2p or trial" thing and will just kill off more players by doing this.

Like I said, I KNOW that they need a source of income and such. Instead of trying to force everyone to upgrade, they should give people a reason to upgrade.

Darlene159 · #34 06-21-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Why'd you say "no"? I understand that they have to profit and everything but they killed off a lot of members back when they put the whole "p2p or trial" thing and will just kill off more players by doing this.

Like I said, I KNOW that they need a source of income and such. Instead of trying to force everyone to upgrade, they should give people a reason to upgrade.

I said "no" because they are not trying to "kill Graal further", and I think you know that.
If they had not of done the p2p thing years ago, they would have had to shut it down eventually because of lack of money to keep it going for free.

As for giving people a reason, I am sure they are working on upgrades and stuff. You can only go so fast when there are few paid staff, and I am sure they wish they could go faster.

XSeipheroth · #35 06-21-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

You have no way of knowing how much money classic accounts have put into Graal. Some may have upgraded more than once, and just stopped, and some may have upgraded only once. Regardless, they are just as important as the rest of us in the progress of Graal.
Do you know how many of those Classic accounts have done tons of work, and made tons of content for Graal? Obviously you don't, and every little bit counts, even if it is only one thing.

Alright but what happened in the past doesn't always help the present. It seems like trials just keep joining and no one continues to upgrade so who is paying for it then? Graal Servers is the only thing that comes to mind and the private development team.

Darlene159 · #36 06-21-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by XSeipheroth

Alright but what happened in the past doesn't always help the present. It seems like trials just keep joining and no one continues to upgrade so who is paying for it then? Graal Servers is the only thing that comes to mind and the private development team.

I agree that the trial system needs to be changed. Trials are not the same as Classic members.
The purchase of Graal servers, and upgrades is their source of income, therefore letting trials continue to play limitless hours, and with no limit to overworlds on classic servers, does not benefit them financially, because a lot of people don't seem to mind that they cannot save.

XSeipheroth · #37 06-21-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I agree that the trial system needs to be changed. Trials are not the same as Classic members.
The purchase of Graal servers, and upgrades is their source of income, therefore letting trials continue to play limitless hours, and with no limit to overworlds on classic servers, does not benefit them financially, because a lot of people don't seem to mind that they cannot save.

Force them to look like Fun Si Yan then.

Crono · #38 06-21-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I said "no" because they are not trying to "kill Graal further", and I think you know that.
If they had not of done the p2p thing years ago, they would have had to shut it down eventually because of lack of money to keep it going for free.

But that's what they're doing, even if they don't intentionally mean to do it.

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As for giving people a reason, I am sure they are working on upgrades and stuff. You can only go so fast when there are few paid staff, and I am sure they wish they could go faster.

You know, ever since 2002 it's been us players giving anyone a reason to upgrade...

XSeipheroth · #39 06-21-2007, 10:33 PM

I think UN and Zodiac should be moved to gold that would be interesting.

theHAWKER · #40 06-21-2007, 11:11 PM

why should we care how much money "graal" has?

Darlene159 · #41 06-21-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by XSeipheroth

I think UN and Zodiac should be moved to gold that would be interesting.

They aren't gold type servers.

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why should we care how much money "graal" has?

I don't think most people do, that isn't the point of the thread.

pooper200000 · #42 06-21-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

They aren't gold type servers.

Really what qualifies a server as gold? It has no updates and it cost more to use the slightly better graphics and the server has less noticable updates that the players will enjoy with very little bickering? What is a gold type server... is it just a dieing one?

Darlene159 · #43 06-21-2007, 11:57 PM

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Really what qualifies a server as gold? It has no updates and it cost more to use the slightly better graphics and the server has less noticable updates that the players will enjoy with very little bickering? What is a gold type server... is it just a dieing one?

Pretty sure the Gold servers are ones that are to be run or overseen a great deal by Graal Administration. I could be wrong though.

Googi · #44 06-22-2007, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000

Really what qualifies a server as gold?

Being made (at least in large part) by Stefan.

pooper200000 · #45 06-22-2007, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Pretty sure the Gold servers are ones that are to be run or overseen a great deal by Graal Administration. I could be wrong though.

Doesn't that just mean that they lack attention so they are killed more often? Thats my personal opinion. I mean which servers have the most quality updates more frequently? I dont' think the gold servers would be on that list if you asked players.