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[SayianOozaru]

Ok, tried this once before, but it never took. So, I'll do it more carefully this time, so that all of you can understand it better (hopefully).


Try to remember;

Pistol - 32x19 pixels (Thats the BIGGEST they should be. Its the size of the Blue Pistole.)
Rifles - 58x19 pixels (Thats the BIGGEST they should be. Thats the size of the Photon.)
Support - 58x22 pixels (That's the size of the Chaingun.)

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Coloring/Shading (Will add different things, as time goes by)


Step 1;

Ok, What were doing here (after you have a basic outline for a gun), is getting the colors you want the gun to have. I chose 1 basic color (a light grey), 3 darker shades of the basic color, and 4 lighter shades of the basic color. The shades have to show when your not zoomed in, so try not to choose colors close together.
(Example: This is the basic color I chose,


Now what you want to do, to pick the next color is something like,


YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO THIS;

You can barely tell that there is any difference at all in the colors. That's not the "Zone" way of shading.

Step 2;

Ok, now that you have your basic color, and its shades, your ready to start coloring. So just fill the gun outline, with the basic color you want the gun to have. I chose a light grey, but you can choose any color you want.

Step 3;

Alright. The gun outline is now filled in with your basic color, so now its up to you, to choose how the light will be hitting the weapon. I chose for the light to hit from directly above the weapon. So go along with your first dark shade, and make a line under things that you want to "pop" out. (meaning there overlapping something)

Step 4;

Now, you have one dark shade, so lets match that up with the first lighter shade. Just go along the weapon, and color the parts of the weapon that are "poping" out (Overlapping something).

Step 5;

Alright, now you have your light and dark shades on the weapon. Now pick the 2nd darker shade, and start to fill in spots that should be darker than the first dark shade. (Make sure to only use the 2nd shade ontop of the first one).

Step 6;

Now do what you did the last step, but apply it to the 2nd lighter shade. I would only leave about 1-2 pixels of the first light shade, the rest I would fill with the 2nd light shade. Remember now that your using a brighter color, that means its going to look like whatever you shade with that color is sticking out more, so try not to go "crazy" with it. (Try to keep it in the first light shade)

Step 7;

Alright, now take your final, darkest color, and apply it to where the light is hitting least. (Keep it inside the 2nd dark shade).

[SayianOozaru]

Step 8;

The 3rd lighter color, should be added ontop of the 2nd light shade. Remember only leave about 1-2 pixels of the 2nd light shade that you color over.

Step 9;

Ok, this is the final real step. Just add the lighest color ontop of the 3rd lightest shade. These spots WILL stand out because there so bright. So once again, don't go too crazy with it.

Step 10;

Now just zoom out. Lol.

*Side note;
Notice how the handle is shaded;

Try to shade your handles like this.

[xAzerothx]

This seems helpful if only I could get a basic outline of a gun...

[SayianOozaru]

I plan on adding that soon. Was going to do it now, but I'm not feeling up to it. Might end up doing it tonight though, lol.

[xAzerothx]

Oh which program are you using?

[SayianOozaru]

Paint Shop Pro 11 (I only use Paint Shop Pro, I just get the latest version).

[Darkdemon452]

Paint ftw thats what i use i cant aford your fancy things

[Darkdemon452]

I found a free version of paintshop pro 10 will that work fine?

[SayianOozaru]

Yes, paint shop pro 10 is pretty much the same as 11.

They have the same setup and everything, only different thing is that 10 doesn't have as much options for like editing photos and things. But that doesn't really matter when your pixeling. :P

[Darkdemon452]

well i guess ill try one , once you make an outline tutorial

[MisterMastermind]

Well I got bored and decided to mess around with PSP 11. I did a Steyr Army-Universal-Gewehr outline if you guys wanna try it, I'll post mine in a bit. It's pretty basic but I did it off of the basic idea of a 9mm, didn't add the ammo clip yet, might do that later if it'll look better.

edit: added ammo clip
edit2: Still a bit too large, 87x29.
edit3: Should be smaller now.
edit4: Shaded

[Darkdemon452]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

Well I got bored and decided to mess around with PSP 11. I did a Steyr Army-Universal-Gewehr outline if you guys wanna try it, I'll post mine in a bit. It's pretty basic but I did it off of the basic idea of a 9mm, didn't add the third handgrip, might do that later if it'll look better.

ooh ooh can i color?

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by Darkdemon452

ooh ooh can i color?

Sure.

[SayianOozaru]

The only thing I don't like about it, is the way the back of the gun was shaded.

If you used more colors, it might have fit in with Zone actually. :o

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by SayianOozaru

The only thing I don't like about it, is the way the back of the gun was shaded.

If you used more colors, it might have fit in with Zone actually. :o

It's got at least 5, but I from what I've seen steyr's don't vary much in color. I'll most likely go back and change the tint on the clip.

edit: changed back

[SayianOozaru]

Just changed the left one, to show you what "zone"s style would look like.

[SayianOozaru]

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Creating an Outline (Rifles)

Step 1;

Ok, first your going to want to choose what you want your barrel to look like. So just make it about 8-10 pixels long at most, and make sure it looks like the barrel of a gun.

Step 2;

Now you'll want to do an outline of the "nose" of the gun (I guess?). The part that connects to the barrel.

Step 3;

Ok, now choose what you want the "Body" of the gun to look like. (The rest of the weapon). I gave it sort of a redrifle feel, or so. (The way it rounds off in the back a little)

Step 4;

Now design the insides. Remember you can add anything you want in here. Sometimes it doesn't even have to make sence, as long as you shade it right.

Step 5;

Now, you just have to color it.

*Note;

Remember, just because the outline doesn't look to good to you, always color it first before tossing it away. You'd be surprised what things look like with a bit of color.

(If someone could attach this to my first post, and delete this part, it would be nice. )

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by SayianOozaru

Just changed the left one, to show you what "zone"s style would look like.

So just darkening the edges? Easy.
edit: Added all four sprites, I don't remember the angle of the up/down angles.

[sizzle1989]

Nice looking gun, wish I could make guns :P

[Huwajux]

Hehe, I've had a go. It's very fun once you get into it. I can see why you make so many! It has come out a bit small but I think it is ok for a proper first try! (The actual gun image itself I was GFXing from had a basic shell so don't blame me on some bland areas )

I think I might have made some mistakes with the shading. Please give advice. If you can even see it. XD

[dude2020]

its so small i can't help you.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by dude2020

its so small i can't help you.

Grrr, why is it so small!?

[dude2020]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Grrr, why is it so small!?

You made it that way silly!

[Darkdemon452]

lol@john's post but im going to make one now I guess hopefully it will go better than the one I made last night >.>

[anubis_wing]

I tried!

[dude2020]

Originally Posted by anubis_wing

I tried!

Anuber! Bubblebeam!

[anubis_wing]

Lolololol go home.

[Darkdemon452]

and so I made some horribly small dual wield pistols in about 5 minutes using paint lol

[Huwajux]

These are great! (For first goes under Sayian's guide)

[SayianOozaru]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

I think I might have made some mistakes with the shading. Please give advice.

Well, the guns outline you did looked sort of like a gun already ingame. So I just redid the outline and added a few things, to make it look more different;


You seem to be doing "era" type shading, or something of the sort.

Look at the 2 images. Yours (The one on bottom), and mine (the one on top). See how your shadings seem to stop in random places? Try to shade going down from the top to bottom of the gun, instead of sideways...do you see what I mean?

Originally Posted by Anubis

I tried!

It doesn't look like it would fit in with Zone to much, but still its good. But your shading is making it look to smooth. Remember guns get bumpy, there not completely flat. I guess just add a little more detail to it

Originally Posted by Jar

So just darkening the edges? Easy.
edit: Added all four sprites, I don't remember the angle of the up/down angles.

The only thing I think is out of place, is on the up/down sprites. Those bigass poles or something? try moving those ontop of the weapon, instead of hanging off so much.

[pooper200000]

It still hasn't cured my bad graphics I spent the last hour on this. Its hard!
setnick Person unable ot draw stick people
Question: How do you tell if a color is a zone color?

[anubis_wing]

Reshade mine please, I need an example.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by SayianOozaru

The only thing I think is out of place, is on the up/down sprites. Those bigass poles or something? try moving those ontop of the weapon, instead of hanging off so much.

The scope on the Steyr is placed close to a 45 degree angle jutting out from the weapon so that it may be used automatic (spray and pray) or semi automatic with scope for improved accuracy. I also ended up added some shape to the scope. Working on an XM8 outline now.
edit: I got lazy, I'll do it tomorrow or later.

[pooper200000]

Where can you get your paint program you mentioned earlier sayain? Is it possible to get it for free? Can you pm me?

[SayianOozaru]

Originally Posted by Anubis

Reshade mine please, I need an example.

Originally Posted by SayianOozaru

It doesn't look like it would fit in with Zone to much, but still its good. But your shading is making it look to smooth. Remember guns get bumpy, there not completely flat. I guess just add a little more detail to it

[anubis_wing]

Wow, it looks good enough for Zone!

[SayianOozaru]

Possibly.

[Darkdemon452]

i saved that so i can get teh colors sayian uses :O

[SayianOozaru]

Originally Posted by Darkdemon

i saved that so i can get teh colors sayian uses :O

I couldn't make yours ouy. It wouldn't show up on my computer clearly. Try saving it as .png next time.

[hilary1612]

I tried but shading thing confused me. Made it with paint.