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[BlueFireX]

Go to Unholy Nation :] you will see a trial asking how to get more "yin yangs"

[kia345]

Originally Posted by BlueFireX

Go to Unholy Nation :] you will see a trial asking how to get more "yin yangs"

Why am I 75% sure you've asked something along these lines before?

[Crono]

Originally Posted by kia345

Why am I 75% sure you've asked something along these lines before?

How is this relevant AT ALL?

[BlueFireX]

Originally Posted by kia345

Why am I 75% sure you've asked something along these lines before?

I never ask how to get "yin yangs" infact when I joined graal my friend was a p2p who taught me what everything was, sure I am not the best player and honestly I dont try to be, but as a trial(which i was for about 2 week til i bought my membership over paypal -_-*hint hint for you trials*) I mostly searched around in servers and read masses. Only thing that I remember asking someone that now sounds stupid is "what do p2p stand for"(I didn't read graalonline little help thing)

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by BlueFireX

Go to Unholy Nation :] you will see a trial asking how to get more "yin yangs"

Yea, well when you first look at Graal, what do the "hearts" look like to you? It isn't an idiotic question. They just don't know the proper "Graal speak" yet.

Originally Posted by BlueFireX

I never ask how to get "yin yangs" infact when I joined graal my friend was a p2p who taught me what everything was, sure I am not the best player and honestly I dont try to be, but as a trial(which i was for about 2 week til i bought my membership over paypal -_-*hint hint for you trials*) I mostly searched around in servers and read masses. Only thing that I remember asking someone that now sounds stupid is "what do p2p stand for"(I didn't read graalonline little help thing)

Lucky for you, you had a friend who knew the ropes to help you, not everyone does.
I applaud trials who aren't afraid to ask questions to get help.
I do not applaud they way they are treated by some staff, and players though. I can't tell you how many complaints I have gotten, and still get about this, in game and on the forums.
I would have to say that this is not a very friendly game at this point.
Years ago, when I first started playing when there was only Classic, the players and staff were much friendlier then today (Not to say there aren't a lot of friendly people, because there are). Seems that for every one decent player, there are two not so decent players. *sigh*

Seriously, let the trials be, let them learn the game without being hated on, and maybe more of them will get p2p's.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

You just broke my heart..

Aww. <3

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Lucky for you, you had a friend who knew the ropes to help you, not everyone does.

I didn't, and I had to work my way up from nothing. Didn't stop me though, no matter how many people PKed me and how many people insulted me and stuff.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Gerami

I didn't, and I had to work my way up from nothing. Didn't stop me though, no matter how many people PKed me and how many people insulted me and stuff.

Same here, although not as much as trials recieve today. Point is that quite a few have quit, and never returned because of the way they were treated, and nothing was done. Shouldn't be that way. I have seen staff tell trials to "toughen up and learn to take it, or you might as well quit"
This isn't the way to treat potential paying customers.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Same here, although not as much as trials recieve today. Point is that quite a few have quit, and never returned because of the way they were treated, and nothing was done. Shouldn't be that way. I have seen staff tell trials to "toughen up and learn to take it, or you might as well quit"

Well once you get to a point where it's just plain continued harassment to one person, I can see why staff should take action.

This isn't the way to treat potential paying customers.

Why would I want to treate them any better than I treate classic/gold/vip people? Heh...

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

I don't know about you guys, but, back in the days when I was a trial account - I used to read the forums almost everyday. The Small Guys are watching us.

Did you idolize me then?

[Zideruic]

I could post many views on this, the simple fact is, when we were trials, we couldn't use these forums, so all of your points say something about all of us were trials? Yeah most of us turned out ok without the help of the forums.

[BlueFireX]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Yea, well when you first look at Graal, what do the "hearts" look like to you? It isn't an idiotic question. They just don't know the proper "Graal speak" yet.

Lucky for you, you had a friend who knew the ropes to help you, not everyone does.
I applaud trials who aren't afraid to ask questions to get help.
I do not applaud they way they are treated by some staff, and players though. I can't tell you how many complaints I have gotten, and still get about this, in game and on the forums.
I would have to say that this is not a very friendly game at this point.
Years ago, when I first started playing when there was only Classic, the players and staff were much friendlier then today (Not to say there aren't a lot of friendly people, because there are). Seems that for every one decent player, there are two not so decent players. *sigh*

Seriously, let the trials be, let them learn the game without being hated on, and maybe more of them will get p2p's.

Hey hey hey, I am helping trials. I help trials learn what happens when you step out of pk zone on era. What happens when you unpause and taunt people. But if they just asked FAQ they would know everything they need to know. Oh and how about having a site for every server explain I already know Un has one. Era is working or been working on one and someone on Zodiac is making one.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by BlueFireX

Hey hey hey, I am helping trials. I help trials learn what happens when you step out of pk zone on era. What happens when you unpause and taunt people. But if they just asked FAQ they would know everything they need to know. Oh and how about having a site for every server explain I already know Un has one. Era is working or been working on one and someone on Zodiac is making one.

Hypothesis: They won't read it like most people don't read the CoC or the terms of use when they sign up for a graal account.

Now if you can somehow find a way to ensure these players are over 13 and have a maturity level over 13 then I have no problem whatsoever with them using the forums, but I don't want a bunch of 10 year olds running around here posting "balls" in an interesting topic just for S&G's.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Gerami

trials suk olol

didn't take much of a dare to say that.

I don't think the "how dare you" was supposed to take in a literal sense, more so, "how can you" with little reasoning other then a stereotype opinion, because that's exactly what it is.

Originally Posted by Gerami

So?

If trials are the future profit for Graal, surely they shouldn't be brushed aside, especially when the old is wearing thin.

Originally Posted by Gerami

Your analogy sucks. Also, no one is saying that we should send them off and such. We just stereotype them as idiots because thats how a lot of them present themselves.

Lol, analogies..

Originally Posted by BlueFireX

A scientist who spent 8 years of his life making a cure for a deadly disease could be a trial. But honestly a trial is less informed about graal than most p2p.

How many trials do you actually speak to Crono? On average, per week or so?

Originally Posted by Gerami

Refer to 2 points up.

Not quite sure that you are referring to, but I don't think it's another analogy theory, so I'll go with "It happens, as unfortunate as it is."

With this kind of attitude, I don't understand how anyone can say that "Graal sucks" it's just baffling, especially when most of the complaints are that there's not many players, not much content and you can't deny you haven't said that, weather it be to me or posted somewhere.

Originally Posted by Gerami

No, I don't think this is the general attitude.

Actually it is, it's just an exaggerated version. How many people these days, especially the older members actually play with the newer, fresher members? I know of.. one.

Originally Posted by Gerami

I proved nothing. Your school analogy was aweful to begin with so I'm not really calling trials retarded. The "trials suk" comment was there to show you that it doesn't take much of a dare to insult a group of people.

Oh, you complete rebel.

Originally Posted by Gerami

And finally I actually play Graal servers and don't sit on classic all day. I've gained enough experience to safely say that I've seen a good amount of idiotic trials to stereotype them as being brainless. I'm not saying they all are dumb, and im not saying that they're dumber than everyone on Graal.

I play Classic and I've been around too. Most of the new members do have a excitable attitude, I wouldn't call them idiots, but weren't we like that too? I know I was.


Yeah, except I don't treate them like that.[/QUOTE]