Reminder: Naming your server's files

[Lance]

Several times have there been problems wherein servers have uploaded files with the same names as files on other servers. When players visit these other servers, these more-recently-uploaded files will overwrite the normal files from the other servers in your webgifs directory. This is a problem, especially when files from official servers such as Graal Kingdoms are being overwritten.

I would like to take this opportunity to remind you all of the recommendation that when uploading graphics and sounds to your server, you prefix (or suffix) them with the name of the server where it is being uploaded. A recent example: instead of uploading some modified 'bomyload.wav' file to your server, you should rename it to (yourservername)_bomyload.wav or bomyload_(yourservername).wav. However, you should not be using bomys anyway, so you might want to use a name which actually fits what you are using the new file for.

This will prevent the overwriting from happening and also will help when there are issues with one server stealing another's graphics. By following this recommendation, you will also avoid the awkward problem where two different people on one server might see a single NPC as having a different graphic, depending on which other servers they may have already visited. A good example of this would be a file with a simple name like 'speaker.png'. Several months ago, I visited a playerworld with a different (and newer) speaker.png file than Era's, so whenever I was on Era I ended up seeing the other server's speaker.png. It was much bigger than Era's, so you can see how it would be a problem. That problem has been solved, but many other such problems keep appearing. So, please, take care when naming files.

[osrs]

Good advice, it would not be good to play Graal Kingdoms/Zone with replaced files.

[Kaimetsu]

I cannot understand why Graal still uses a single folder for this stuff. Sure, sharing files between playerworlds is good, but I think most users would gladly spend a few extra kilobytes of space if it meant conflicts such as these were eradicated.

One folder per playerworld! It is the future.

[GoZelda]

Wow. It was so long ago I suggested this. I remember it took me 5 sentences to explain it, then Kai posted as 3d or 2nd and said it in 1 sentence.

[Evil_Trunks]

I always wanted seperate folders myself

then I could delete the graphics from the servers I don't play so Graal doesn't take so long to load

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by Evil_Trunks

then I could delete the graphics from the servers I don't play so Graal doesn't take so long to load

Or Graal could restrict the indexing process to the server that you're currently entering.

[matt8891]

Is there a specific name to rename your rclogs on a playerworld in order for them to be deleted? I have a bunch of rc logs which i check once a week then rename them to rc_old.txt. It's getting to the point in which it's taking longer to even see the logs once i click 'logs' in the file manager.

And i guess Stefan or Unix removed rights from everyone to delete rclogs for security reasons.

[Curt1zzle]

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

I cannot understand why Graal still uses a single folder for this stuff. Sure, sharing files between playerworlds is good, but I think most users would gladly spend a few extra kilobytes of space if it meant conflicts such as these were eradicated.

One folder per playerworld! It is the future.

I concur.

[Crono]

And dont name your files treetop.png you dopes. Too many people do that, and for hells sake STOP IT WITH THE GANI OVERWRITES.

Stupid server managers...

[Admins]

Sharing the files makes sense because most playerworld staff are uploading thousands of heads and bodies to their server, you would need to download all those files again. If you prefix the files then they will be saved into their own folder now (in v3.1 and in v4)

[Velox Cruentus]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Sharing the files makes sense because most playerworld staff are uploading thousands of heads and bodies to their server, you would need to download all those files again. If you prefix the files then they will be saved into their own folder now (in v3.1 and in v4)

Do you believe you may put the folders as a subfolder of webgifs? There are awefully a lot of badly named images that just clutter the levels folder (When I go and delete my images instead of reinstalling graal entirely, I have to evade such folders as ganis, heads, scripts, tiledefs, and so on.)

As for the rclogs.txt / npclogs.txt -- Do you think you can make it so that the Admin account of the server has the ability to delete these?

[Inverness]

I Completely agree.
I've been doing this for a long time, because I think its organized
unfortunately, noone else on Aeon ever listened to me when I said to use file prefixes, so things are cluttered.

[MegaMasterX90875]

I think I understand the reasoning behind the "one folder for all" idea, but I do think that servers should check to see if a file exists before downloading, and if it does exist, then it should ask for overwrite confirmation (Just an idea)

[Harbost]

how much dose a playerworld cost

[napo_p2p]

Originally Posted by Harbost

how much dose a playerworld cost

http://support.cyberjoueurs.com/supp...=kb&article=59

[MegaMasterX90875]

Eh,or there should be a folder for every server. Maybe that'd work

[slambsketbll]

what is that about?

[Sam]

Check the date when this thread was made before posting, mostly those threads are not applicable anymore.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Sam

Check the date when this thread was made before posting, mostly those threads are not applicable anymore.

Then if I may ask, WHY is it stickied?

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Then if I may ask, WHY is it stickied?

It is stickied because it still applies, and is important. I believe Sam's statement was in general, and for future reference about old threads.

Originally Posted by slambsketbll

what is this about?

This thread is for server owners, and it's staff. If you are neither, or if you never have been, then you might not understand.
Basically, it is about a problem with people uploading graphics and such using the same names as other playerworlds, thus over writing those files, and causing problems with people seeing the correct graphics on playerworlds.

[Deadly_Killer]

Graal's files now save in appropriate folders assuming you use serverinitials_FILE-NAME-HERE.EXTENSION

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Deadly_Killer

Graal's files now save in appropriate folders assuming you use serverinitials_FILE-NAME-HERE.EXTENSION

Or cool people just use graphic download packs to save the files to the folders they want

[Deadly_Killer]

Originally Posted by zokemon

Or cool people just use graphic download packs to save the files to the folders they want

Assuming one would love to type 500+ images. Would be cool if you just can do.
FOLDER levels/images/*.png

and it would force download of all pngs.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Then if I may ask, WHY is it stickied?

For reference.

for the record, you may NOT ask >:{

[DustyPorViva]

Yes, but it's not like you're bumping a a thread from nowhere, so I don't see anything detrimental about it.
Anyways, I still say each playerworld should get their own thread, and not have folders created by underscores. Ya, files will get downloaded more than once, but face it, Graal isn't really organized as is, and things are already getting duplicated via the current folder layout. There are so many dumb folder names because of underscores now that it's ridiculous, and there's only like one image or so per folder. It would also make looking for images a bit easier.

[Veteranspy]

So you're trying to say "Go ahead, steal content?" Because that is what I got out of this, "rename files to so and so name." Thats just a hypothetical "Go here, take this, leave that," kind of statement. Might want to define it better.

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by Veteranspy

So you're trying to say "Go ahead, steal content?" Because that is what I got out of this, "rename files to so and so name." Thats just a hypothetical "Go here, take this, leave that," kind of statement. Might want to define it better.

I highly doubt that was being endorsed, so in the interest of common sense, why on earth did you revive this thread from between 2005-2007 to ask that?

[DuBsTeRmAn]

Maybe he didn't realize it was so old?

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

I highly doubt that was being endorsed, so in the interest of common sense, why on earth did you revive this thread from between 2005-2007 to ask that?

Newsflash: It's sticked. You can't revive sticked threads as they're always at the top.

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Newsflash: It's sticked. You can't revive sticked threads as they're always at the top.

Stickies are not immune to time stamps o_O

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Newsflash: It's sticked. You can't revive sticked threads as they're always at the top.

Ya, but it's pointless to direct a question at someone who pretty much hasn't been around for a few years. TSA also has a point, it's good to read time-stamps, as even if it's a sticky and the bump doesn't matter... there's rarely any point in commenting in a topic that's been dead for so many years. This is one of those cases.

However, I've admittedly accidentally posted in old threads people have linked me to.