Vista Final - Page 5

HoudiniMan · #**161** 04-26-2007, 09:07 PM

No, it's not a valid solution.

As time passes the number of people who dont have access to XP will grow, and FAST. The simple fact being most people dont have the technical expertise to know that Vista is causing the problem, or how to switch OSes.

Graal needs to be vista compatible as fast as possible.

That solution is just a bandage so you don't lose access, and many players already have lost access completely because they aren't "computer people".

TalonShriner · #**162** 04-27-2007, 10:18 PM

stefan, are you planning on making a patch and releasing soon? I don't really want to screw around and do any of these temporary "bandages" as Houdini calls them. And also, is anyone not seeing anything happen when they open Graal or Editor in full screen or maximized windows?

MisterMastermind · #**163** 04-27-2007, 11:05 PM

I'm using vista now, so making graal vista compatible is important.

Darkdemon452 · #**164** 04-28-2007, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

I'm using vista now, so making graal vista compatible is important.

I hate vista just for this reason x.x I have it but like tons of the gfx on zone are messed up but all the classic servers work fine any idea when a patch will be made?

Admins · #**165** 04-28-2007, 11:53 AM

Some screenshots would help, also information about your graphics card.
Graal works fine on our Vista installation, installing it into a folder which doesn't have spaces in its name is fixing the problem of freezing when you open a PM. Graphical messups might have to do with special graphic card driver problems.

MisterMastermind · #**166** 04-28-2007, 04:18 PM

I get this message when responding to PM's. Access violation at address 0040F2FF in module 'Graal4exe.', read of address 699E9044.

Darkdemon452 · #**167** 04-28-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Some screenshots would help, also information about your graphics card.
Graal works fine on our Vista installation, installing it into a folder which doesn't have spaces in its name is fixing the problem of freezing when you open a PM. Graphical messups might have to do with special graphic card driver problems.

NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE I got Vista Home Premium and heres a screenshot

CheeToS2 · #**168** 04-29-2007, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Graphical messups might have to do with special graphic card driver problems.

Including the error in the F2 window saying the DirectX surface couldn't be locked?

TalonShriner · #**169** 04-29-2007, 08:50 PM

I also noticed that if i close Editor when there is a level opened in it, it gives me a error saying: Runtime error 216 at 00003FA4. It gives me the option "OK", but it just pops back up again. The only way I can get rid of it is opening the task manager and manually closing it.

middo · #**170** 05-01-2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Graphical messups might have to do with special graphic card driver problems.

This seems to be a core issue with the design of Graal itself. I hope this doesn't prove to be a huge task to make this vista compatible.

From MSDN about error on crash:

Either this is an error that is XP and not Vista, or Vista thinks Graal is a virus?

SYMPTOMS
When you start Windows, Internet Explorer, or a Windows-based program, you may receive the following error message:
Runtime Error 216 at Address
Back to the top

CAUSE
This issue can occur if your computer is infected with a SubSeven Trojan virus.

Also, I have a DC Conroe 6300, 2 GB of DDR2 pc6400 RAM, nvidia 7600 GT with latest drivers and am getting all the same graphical errors as everyone else, along with a choppy framerate.
This seems to be DX7 related? All DX9 apps have run fine for me thus far.
Vista has owned graal.

zell12 · #**171** 05-01-2007, 09:40 AM

Just downloaded the setup from the website, and ran it. Then this happened, first the error, then graal opened. Let's see what happens next...

I clicked "OK" for that error about 7 times before it stopped comming up.

Here is what my setup looks like:

Ok, so I have it installed, I go to play, I get the first error again. Ok, won't go away this time, I ignore it. I continue playing, and I have to resize the window in order to close Zodiac's news thing that comes up. I couldn't see the "X" button, and even resized it was all scrambled like the setup window was.

Then when I went to PM someone, this came up, and would not go away until I ened G4.exe process.

It would be nice to have this fixed soon Stefan, a lot of people buying new computers and whatnot and getting Vista with it. Whether they want to put XP back on it, I don't know, but I like Vista, and it runs everything I own perfect.

Here is Windows Score thing:

System Specs in the Report.zip attached below.

Quote:

Console.log
Scanning folder structure of C:/Users/Daniel/Desktop/...
Done.
Created DirectDraw object
Initialized Direct3D7
Initialized DirectDraw
Graphic Capabilities:
Drawing of alpha blended textures: true
Textures with non-power-of-2 size: true
3D Textures with non-power-of-2 size: true
2D during 3D scene: true
Use 32 bit alpha: true
Initialized Direct3D7
Deleted DirectDraw Surfaces
Initialized Direct3D7
Resized DirectDraw to 400,260
Problem locking DirectX surface for writing
Problem locking DirectX surface for writing

zell12 · #**172** 05-01-2007, 09:47 AM

Update:

Running in XP SP2 compatibility solves the PM window bug. But, it still does not fix the DirectX issue with the graphics.

D4rKv310c1ty · #**173** 05-01-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkdemon452

NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE I got Vista Home Premium and heres a screenshot

Is that an onboard card?

middo · #**174** 05-02-2007, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by D4rKv310c1ty

Is that an onboard card?

The word integrated usually makes more sense.

HoudiniMan · #**175** 05-02-2007, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by middo

The word integrated usually makes more sense.

In the biz we say onboard nearly every time, smarty.

middo · #**176** 05-02-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

In the biz we say onboard nearly every time, smarty.

Not where I hail from.

Delta2004 · #**177** 05-02-2007, 10:18 PM

Graphics Card : ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M Series

All the animated flowers (and seems to only be the flowers, even inside levels) flash over and over. Also, Graal randomly "Stops Working" and shuts down.

Ethereal · #**178** 05-02-2007, 10:42 PM

is graal xp 64bit compatible yet?

middo · #**179** 05-03-2007, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethereal

is graal working at all on anything not XP yet?

I can't reinstall Windows XP as I ahve no more activations and dont want to do anything illegal. I Could pay $250 for another legal copy and install on another drive, but I really don't want to pay a lot of money just to get graal working again.

fix

zell12 · #**180** 05-03-2007, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethereal

is graal xp 64bit compatible yet?

LOL

You can't be serious man.

HoudiniMan · #**181** 05-03-2007, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by middo

I can't reinstall Windows XP as I ahve no more activations and dont want to do anything illegal. I Could pay $250 for another legal copy and install on another drive, but I really don't want to pay a lot of money just to get graal working again.

fix

When they ask you to reactivate you need to call them.

You have a license to use XP on any 1 computer forever.

As long as you're overwriting an installation, or remove it from another PC, they will give you the code to re-activate it on the phone in 2 minutes.

"Legally" or "Technically" or whatever, you're only supposed to use that license on one computer at a time, but you can delete windows and move it to another machine, or reinstall to the same machine, as long as it's just on one machine.

Delta2004 · #**182** 05-03-2007, 08:44 AM

Well I found out how to stop the graal.exe from randomly shutting down on me. I uninstalled graal and reinstalled it into my user folder.

zell12 · #**183** 05-03-2007, 08:55 AM

I think the whole problem is Graal isn't communicating with the DirectX somehow, maybe due to Vista not liking Graal, idk... but it must have to have something to do with DirectX...

Delta2004 · #**184** 05-04-2007, 03:48 AM

Yeah the only issue I still have is the animated flowers flash with other images showing up around them. Other than that, Graal has been running great for me.

middo · #**185** 05-04-2007, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

When they ask you to reactivate you need to call them.

You have a license to use XP on any 1 computer forever.

As long as you're overwriting an installation, or remove it from another PC, they will give you the code to re-activate it on the phone in 2 minutes.

"Legally" or "Technically" or whatever, you're only supposed to use that license on one computer at a time, but you can delete windows and move it to another machine, or reinstall to the same machine, as long as it's just on one machine.

My family took the XP install and are using it.

So yeah.

Ethereal · #**186** 05-04-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zell12

LOL

You can't be serious man.

i would of thought that they would actually bothered to start discovering a fix for it at least. paying for a game and not being able to play it is pretty stupid.

if i brought a game from a shop and it didn't run on my computer, i would take it back and get my money back, can you do this with graal? didn't think so, hence my right to complain.

it's not something to do with graal in general, it's something to do with v4 as the older version of graal runs perfectly..

D4rKv310c1ty · #**187** 05-05-2007, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethereal

i would of thought that they would actually bothered to start discovering a fix for it at least. paying for a game and not being able to play it is pretty stupid.

if i brought a game from a shop and it didn't run on my computer, i would take it back and get my money back, can you do this with graal? didn't think so, hence my right to complain.

it's not something to do with graal in general, it's something to do with v4 as the older version of graal runs perfectly..

Holds quite a valid point there.

zell12 · #**188** 05-05-2007, 03:43 AM

Graal has posted the specs that are required to run the game. Even then, it isn't their fault. You should join the mac/linux users..

HoudiniMan · #**189** 05-05-2007, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by zell12

Graal has posted the specs that are required to run the game. Even then, it isn't their fault. You should join the mac/linux users..

No no, he's looking for software compatibility.

Graal does need to keep up with the times.

middo · #**190** 05-05-2007, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by zell12

Graal has posted the specs that are required to run the game. Even then, it isn't their fault. You should join the mac/linux users..

:| This post is so annoying; I don't know where to begin.

We bought Vista, being told that other XP apps would work, and so far everything does, except Graal! Source, GRAW, even Planet Side (torque) runs fine, but not a 2D engine.

And I paid for this. And am checking this thread twice a day, for a fix, I'm really really desperate.

zell12 · #**191** 05-05-2007, 07:32 AM

Your life is over now, you can't play graal.

Delta2004 · #**192** 05-05-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by middo

We bought Vista, being told that other XP apps would work, and so far everything does, except Graal! Source, GRAW, even Planet Side (torque) runs fine, but not a 2D engine.

And I paid for this. And am checking this thread twice a day, for a fix, I'm really really desperate.

Same thing here for me..

Quote:

Originally Posted by zell12

Graal has posted the specs that are required to run the game. Even then, it isn't their fault. You should join the mac/linux users..

Right, but it isn't our fault either.

middo · #**193** 05-05-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by zell12

Your life is over now, you can't play graal.

Okay, not THAT desperate. But I'm the lead NAT on Val and have a lot of work done on a new system, and I have players and staff waiting on me.

Delta2004 · #**194** 05-05-2007, 09:36 PM

Well I'm having issues with Graal "Stop Working" and closing out... and other image issues.

Q Menu doesn't show on some servers. Also, Top corner "A" image doesn't show.

zell12 · #**195** 05-07-2007, 08:43 AM

Oh well. Honestly, complaing about it isn't going to make it go any faster. Why not research on google or something, talk to some scrpters, tell them whats going on, why is directx asking like a pos, and maybe you can help stefan fix it. idk dude, go pay 20 bucks and get a 20 gig hd and put xp on it for graal, other then that oh well.

jonnyrocks2 · #**196** 05-07-2007, 09:53 AM

Or Dual boot XP and Vista?

Vista DOES have the option to do such a thing, you know...

ArushenP2P · #**197** 05-07-2007, 10:29 AM

Quote: "This is like finding a cure for a disease"

Delta2004 · #**198** 05-07-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnyrocks2

Or Dual boot XP and Vista?

Vista DOES have the option to do such a thing, you know...

???? How do you go about doing this?

Update : I found out how but I can't get it to work. So I grabbed my desktop and am running graal on it (it has xp ) for the time being.

middo · #**199** 05-10-2007, 03:42 AM

I caved in and installed linux on a 10gb drive I found.

Ubuntu broke the mbr on my vista drive and I have to wait to get my vista disk back from a pal.

Wee.

At least graal works again.

nullify · #**200** 05-10-2007, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by middo

I caved in and installed linux on a 10gb drive I found.

Ubuntu broke the mbr on my vista drive and I have to wait to get my vista disk back from a pal.

Wee.

At least graal works again.

I'd personally just install grub via linux, then set up a windows boot. Easiest way to fix your MBR right there.