Be more friendly to new people - Page 2

Darlene159 · #16 04-22-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

Really, it needs to work both ways. People need to respect new members, but new members need to familiarise themselves with how the forums work.

If anything, really there just needs to be some bigger sort of notice to tell people about the rules when they sign up for the forums.

I agree. Not sure how it works, but I think new memebers need to check a box when they first sign up, saying they have read and agree to the rules. The box should have a link to the rules.
You would think it would be simple, as the rules link is right there on the main forum, and is not hard to find.

Draenin · #17 04-22-2007, 05:28 PM

I'm very surprised Stan acted that way. Elk and Zoke aren't that surprising, though.

Gambet · #18 04-22-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I agree. Not sure how it works, but I think new memebers need to check a box when they first sign up, saying they have read and agree to the rules. The box should have a link to the rules.
You would think it would be simple, as the rules link is right there on the main forum, and is not hard to find.

I don't believe the forum rules contain anything about how to make a hiring thread. Such a rules thread was created by Ben and posted in a sticky in the playerworld forum, thus it's not a part of the rules that you agree to follow when you sign up. Of course, these rules are handled by the moderators of the section.

Darlene159 · #19 04-22-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet

I don't believe the forum rules contain anything about how to make a hiring thread. Such a rules thread was created by Ben and posted in a sticky in the playerworld forum, thus it's not a part of the rules that you agree to follow when you sign up. Of course, these rules are handled by the moderators of the section.

This is true. Maybe there should be a note in the main rules for members to be sure to check for more specific rules in sub-forums, such as the hiring forum, scripting forum, etc...

Regardless of that fact, the members should be more understanding when replying. The mods generally take care of it appropriately.

Ravenblade1979 · #20 04-22-2007, 05:37 PM

Hmm well most members will just check the box without reading any rules. thats quite common all over....Darlene i want to steal that saying of yours..lol.

Darlene159 · #21 04-22-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Hmm well most members will just check the box without reading any rules. thats quite common all over....

That is true, but they can't use the excuse that they don't know where they are, or didn't know there were rules.

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Darlene i want to steal that saying of yours..lol.

elite_master · #22 04-22-2007, 06:22 PM

I really hate how some of these people try and piss off their fellow forum-goers, most of these kids are washed up hasbeens trying to tell other people how to run their server.

That's just mean.

Chris · #23 04-22-2007, 06:29 PM

That is an alternate account.

Darlene159 · #24 04-22-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elite_master

I really hate how some of these people try and piss off their fellow forum-goers, most of these kids are washed up hasbeens trying to tell other people how to run their server.

That's just mean.

This post is no better then the posters you are taliking about, though. It works both ways.

elite_master · #25 04-22-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

This post is no better then the posters you are taliking about, though. It works both ways.

Basically they are trying to express EXACTLY this:

HEY LOOK AT ME! I OLDER THEN YOU FORUM WISE! I CAN TELL YOU WHAT TO DO BECAUSE I USED TO WORK ON A SERVER THAT WAS SOMETHING BIG! Now I waste my time on the forums bashing your servers, 'cause I have no life!

It's theoretically proven. :-)

Plus, if the big bad moderators won't stand up to the has-beens, who will?

DustyPorViva · #26 04-22-2007, 06:51 PM

Graal has never been that welcoming to newcomers, since... ever. I don't see what the big surprise is, though I'd love to see this changed. I've played a couple other MMORPG's and the likes, all free ones, and most were quite welcoming and helpful.

I think at least a link to the rules could be posted, or a PM sent explaining things. Though, this guy did just come on a hosted world just yesterday with the name Jailed, asking if I was hiring. But either way.

elite_master · #27 04-22-2007, 06:55 PM

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*end tutoral island*
*welcome to lumbridge*
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That's a good welcome committee.

Darlene159 · #28 04-22-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elite_master

Basically they are trying to express EXACTLY this:

HEY LOOK AT ME! I OLDER THEN YOU FORUM WISE! I CAN TELL YOU WHAT TO DO BECAUSE I USED TO WORK ON A SERVER THAT WAS SOMETHING BIG! Now I waste my time on the forums bashing your servers, 'cause I have no life!

It's theoretically proven. :-)

Plus, if the big bad moderators won't stand up to the has-beens, who will?

Again, how is this post any different then the ones you are talking about? Bashing members, is bashing members, no matter what side you are on. It simply should not be done. The forums should be a place that the community can come to in order to recieve help on issues, and recieve constructive advice/critisism, but, on the other hand, members should be sure that they read the rules, and post accordingly.
Bashing members is, and always has been, against the rules on this forum, but it has also, always been a big problem on these forums.

elite_master · #29 04-22-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Swayze

I think it's time we clean this place up.

I think you guys should pull a road house on these forums.

Rufus · #30 04-22-2007, 07:16 PM

The rules are ideally there to prevent this from happening, but like some other people have stated they need to be stated more.

I'm not sure closing threads like this is a good idea, I mean, they could always elaborate after their initial first try. Things that put me off when joining a new forum are my threads being closed, it's like, "Okay, my thread has been closed for a trivial reason, why am I even bothering?" but at the same time, they're being closed to encourage a change in the users' future post(s), but it can really go the other way.

There is an option in VBulletin to send an introduction post to new users who join the forum, you can put anything into there. I believe this feature could be put to use, with a friendly welcome message, as well as explaining how things work here, while remaining friendly and welcoming. The FAQ section could also be put to more use, with regular questions and scenarios that crop up, such as "I would like to advertise my Playerworld to recruit some staff, what should I do?" "The Playerworld Staff Openings forum is perfect for users who have worlds they need help on, blah blah blah.."

As for the attitudes of some users towards others, especially new people, well I had a problem against this for a long time. It seems people are ignorant to people to fit in, argue to fit in and it seems to have become a sort of vicious cycle. I'm not sure how you could change that, although I do believe that this is the reasoning behind some of the forum rules that have been put into place and I appreciate that.