Global Scripting Team

[Skyld]

Right, I lately feel that the Global Scripting Team is a little dead, and I would like to hear your opinions on what you think the Global Scripting Team should be about, what sort of duties we should be performing and such, so that I can work towards improving the team for the benefit of Graal.

I've also been thinking about having someone new hired, interested to see who you also think would be a worthy candidate for consideration. Keep the discussion civilised and to the topic. I don't want to hear "global staff suck" or off-topic chat.

[Chandler]

That's good to hear.
Act like you. You help people, explain how things operate and you're active. What else is needed? I suppose helping to an extent on playerworlds, but I wouldn't consider this mandatory.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Right, I lately feel that the Global Scripting Team is a little dead, and I would like to hear your opinions on what you think the Global Scripting Team should be about, what sort of duties we should be performing and such, so that I can work towards improving the team for the benefit of Graal.

I've also been thinking about having someone new hired, interested to see who you also think would be a worthy candidate for consideration. Keep the discussion civilised and to the topic. I don't want to hear "global staff suck" or off-topic chat.

Well, whaddya know. This is a wonderful chance for more input to Graal from the players Skyld ol' boy. First I would probably consider....as a scripter maybe....*calani or Gambet or someone.....Secondly, the team should be about helping to work out scripting issues or giving out scripting lessons thereof for people curious about the way scripting works. Also a responsibility should be updating the scripting developement parts of the wiki.

[Gambet]

There is no real reason to add anyone else to the team until you guys sort out what your duties and so forth are going to be. Currently, what the GST does, any normal player can do, without the global RC at least.

[Elk]

good luck to everyone...good that Global Scripting Team is hiring...that players wish shall come true...unlike mine...(ty --Chris--(sarcasm))

[Riot]

I've always felt the Global Scripting Team should be responsible for:

• Assisting with scripting issues (ex: lag, bugs)
• Providing scripts which all playerworlds can use (ex: baddies, custom movement)
• Inspecting scripts and offering security and efficiency suggestions.
• Helping to provide documentation

[napo_p2p]

For now, I think the Global Scripting Team should focus on making 'official' development tools for the client. I'm sure an online level editor with most of the capabilites of the offline one will make many players happier.

I know a handful of scriptors who have the skills to be able to handle this sort of work, but I am not sure I know any who can devote a lot of time to a GST position, as many scriptors are working on their own servers/projects.

[zell12]

GST should be monitoring servers, making sure scripts that could potentially damage that server, or others connected to it, are amended. They should be there for the community, assisting when they can and when needed.

What they should not be doing, is hanging around servers needlessly, or trying to do administrative duties. That is not your job, you should not be telling servers they they have to remove copyrighted images, etc. Anything like that should be left to the GM.

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Right, I lately feel that the Global Scripting Team is a little dead, and I would like to hear your opinions on what you think the Global Scripting Team should be about. I've also been thinking about having someone new hired, interested to see who you also think would be a worthy candidate for consideration. Keep the discussion civilised and to the topic. I don't want to hear "global staff suck" or off-topic chat.

I hate to say it but what are the global scripting team? I know your on it but thats about it. Is the name self explantory?

Originally Posted by Riot

I've always felt the Global Scripting Team should be responsible for:

• Assisting with scripting issues (ex: lag, bugs)
• Providing scripts which all playerworlds can use (ex: baddies, custom movement)
• Inspecting scripts and offering security and efficiency suggestions.
• Helping to provide documentation

I agree with that and maybe they should have the ability to deal with emergency scripting for when stefans not around. I nominate twinny and skyld for head of guild X2

[Twinny]

I'd say helping players with their problems but perhaps not providing complete solutions for players. Just help and a starting point.

Good to see the team will be up and going soon.

[Lao_Su2]

I nominate Twinny, he is a great help and has a good chunk of knowledge in that brain of his

[killerogue]

Oh yes I nominate the following:

Twinny
Hikaru (godofwarares)

[Gambet]

It's that the things that GST can do, any skilled scripter can do without the title, though the title is nice.

[Galdor]

It shall fall just like the Global GFX Team >=O

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Galdor

It shall fall just like the Global GFX Team >=O

It sort of already did, thus why Skyld is trying to revive it, though realistically there is no real advantage to being part of the GST besides a nice global RC, which I guess isn't so nice when you wouldn't want to log onto RC on most servers anyways due to the amount of stupidity you'd see ):

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by Galdor

It shall fall just like the Global GFX Team >=O

Possibly they could get this back as well. :O

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by Gambet

It sort of already did, thus why Skyld is trying to revive it, though realistically there is no real advantage to being part of the GST besides a nice global RC, which I guess isn't so nice when you wouldn't want to log onto RC on most servers anyways due to the amount of stupidity you'd see ):

Well, the main thing about being GST is being closer to the development of Graal. For example, the Scripted RC wouldn't have been possible if it weren't for working with Stefan to make it work. The other thing is actively testing and working with new things (Graal3D, serverside sockets, live serverlist details for example) which helps to extend the engine and possibilities.

I don't know how you'd feel about it, but for me, it's a refreshing feeling to know that Stefan and the others are listening to my opinions and such about things engine-related.

[xXziroXx]

I agree, the GST is a little dead, or rather - it looks like it.. Who are the current members of it? And if I were to nominate someone, it would probably be Ashley (calani).

[Matt]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Who are the current members of it?

CheeToS, and Skyld. They are the only 2 members of it.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Matt

CheeToS, and Skyld. They are the only 2 members of it.

Ouch.. alot of servers to cover for two people then.

[Tyhm]

I can't be online much these days, but I'd like to apply.

As for what the Global Script Team should be doing - maybe Global Scripting Projects?

(Insert Devil whining that I link my own threads)

[zell12]

Maybe a Global Development Team instead of having separate ones.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by zell12

Maybe a Global Development Team instead of having separate ones.

Wow. That would be even better. And check PMs.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by killerogue

Wow. That would be even better. And check PMs.

What would be the difference? Just every global developer under 'one' guild name?

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Matt

What would be the difference? Just every global developer under 'one' guild name?

Yeah, I'm not sure if this is a good idea really as some people specialize in certain development areas, where as others don't -- having separate teams might be better. Saying that, I believe the Global Graphics Team should return too. Graal is wearing thin these days on graphic artists, so I guess it would be a good way to give them some recognition, or it may encourage more people into that field.

[killerogue]

Nah, More like people who excel in all walks of developement under one name. Global Developement Team. They can help servers with anything they need help with developement wise instead of each server insistently contacting each Global Team one by one it would be easier and faster.

Although their aren't that many people who excel very well in more than 2 categories of developement. I have been known to make a few good ganis here and there. And some decent graphics as well as levels so yeah. Just an example really. But each person in the group who excels in more than 2 walks of developement could have listed their strongest developement skill and their weakest. So that PW Managers and Administrators can decide which member of the team would be the best to contact for the situation.

[zokemon]

Skyld, maybe we can talk together about my team working with the GST to coordinate somethings? Remind me next time we are on debug

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Well, the main thing about being GST is being closer to the development of Graal. For example, the Scripted RC wouldn't have been possible if it weren't for working with Stefan to make it work. The other thing is actively testing and working with new things (Graal3D, serverside sockets, live serverlist details for example) which helps to extend the engine and possibilities.

I don't know how you'd feel about it, but for me, it's a refreshing feeling to know that Stefan and the others are listening to my opinions and such about things engine-related.

I've helped Stefan on Zone on and off for the past 2 years. He almost always listens to me when I bring up an issue with him.

But, I do agree with you on that part of actively testing unreleased material, if that's actually factual information. Then, yes, I would agree that it would be beneficial. But, you have to take into consideration that scripting is like a sport, where scripters are more skilled in certain aspects of scripting than others. I'm afraid like mostly every hiring that takes place on Graal, even this one will be based on personal bias rather than whose capable of actually helping.

You could be more talented than Stefan with GScript, but it doesn't mean that you'd be a good part of the GST. Take that into consideration.

Originally Posted by zell12

Maybe a Global Development Team instead of having separate ones.

I disagree wholeheartedly.

Separate teams that major on one subject rather than one team that varies their major to different subjects is much more effective and is much more capable of producing more quality work.

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

And if I were to nominate someone, it would probably be Ashley (calani).

I disagree due to the question of activeness. If you don't recall, she's been global in the past, and that didn't turn out too well.

Does she have the talent? Yes, but as stated above, talent isn't everything.

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Gambet

I'm afraid like mostly every hiring that takes place on Graal, even this one will be based on personal bias rather than whose capable of actually helping.

I agree with you, sir.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Gambet

I disagree due to the question of activeness. If you don't recall, she's been global in the past, and that didn't turn out too well.

Does she have the talent? Yes, but as stated above, talent isn't everything.

I do recall, but I would recommend/nominate her any day.

[Tyhm]

Oh, and I nominate cHANDLER, he's the next Com013 from all I've seen.
Trouble is, if we start brain-draining various PWs, we'll have a GST with awesome scripters and all the PWs will have no scripters of their own.
So I dunno.
I just really want Baddies scripted again. (Now if only Stefan would reply to his forum-PMs...or if I had access to one of the RCs he uses...)

[Twinny]

Originally Posted by Skyld

serverside sockets

They better be released to the public soon, they will be great .

In other news, I nominate Ziro. He has done good work with the Global Events System and he helps people . No givesies backsies!! *runs*

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by Twinny

They better be released to the public soon, they will be great .

Twinny = GST. And he better be released soon.

[zokemon]

Umm....it seems 95% of the people you all nominated haven't mastered GS2 yet...

[Chandler]

Originally Posted by Tyhm

Oh, and I nominate cHANDLER, he's the next Com013 from all I've seen.
Trouble is, if we start brain-draining various PWs, we'll have a GST with awesome scripters and all the PWs will have no scripters of their own.
So I dunno.
I just really want Baddies scripted again. (Now if only Stefan would reply to his forum-PMs...or if I had access to one of the RCs he uses...)

Oh thank you. I have no idea who Com013 is, however I take it that he's good. Thanks again :o

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by zokemon

Umm....it seems 95% of the people you all nominated haven't mastered GS2 yet...

Nobody has.


I bet even Stefan himself has made systems that could be revised and made more efficiently, and/or less cluttered (less lines, while still keeping the quality of the script as a whole).


And don't use this thread to bloat about your own talents to try and get noticed, because some people suggested thus far are very well capable of being a good part to the team.

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Nobody has.


I bet even Stefan himself has made systems that could be revised and made more efficiently, and/or less cluttered (less lines, while still keeping the quality of the script as a whole).


And don't use this thread to bloat about your own talents to try and get noticed, because some people suggested thus far are very well capable of being a good part to the team.

I certainly wasn't bloating about my own talents.
I am just saying mastered in terms of having full knowledge of every function and how to do things

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by zokemon

I certainly wasn't bloating about my own talents.
I am just saying mastered in terms of having full knowledge of every function and how to do things

Only Stefan is a full "master" with GScript, in terms of having full knowledge of every function and how to effectively use all of them.

[Inverness]

Zero, I don't think you can master GS2 unless you made it yourself, and you didn't so I think you're saying a bit too much about yourself in terms of mastery. You're a damn good scripter and kinda like my idol but unfortunately you're a bit short of being a master.

[Chandler]

Am I the only one to not see how he intended to say that he had mastered GS2?