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Old 01-30-2007, 07:23 AM
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Old 01-30-2007, 09:57 AM
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idk about that mushroom hunt either.... baking wasn't too fun either...

Mabey have lots of events, some you dont need ETs for maybe? Make the same amount of money there... sorta, as much you would doin jobs?
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:41 PM
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Yep. But not as a bomy player.
Whaaaaaat? We won't be able to play as bomies?
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:24 PM
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Whaaaaaat? We won't be able to play as bomies?

No? Just not scuba-diving... hopefully!
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Old 01-30-2007, 09:43 PM
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Whaaaaaat? We won't be able to play as bomies?
Correct. We have more than enough on our plate as it is without adding in dozens of bomy ganis, scripting all of the tools/instruments/items/events/jobs/quests/etc to work with bomy players... just so people can walk around as a bomy. I looked at the pros vs the cons and that's what I decided. Just so I might try to convince you of why bomy players are a bad idea, I'll list those pros and cons now:

Pros:
- players get to play as another race which allows them to be more different from another player
- special quests and events and jobs for bomy players only

Cons:
- a crapload more scripting needs to be done
- many more ganis need to be made
- bomies still have no hands so it's hard to make any jobs or events or quests for them
- the new clothing system pretty much cuts out like 10 articles of clothing so they can't use that stuff...
- it was weird and illogical to see bomies walking around talking and acting "human" and then seeing human players walking around with bomy "pets".
- bomy pets allow human players the exact same abilities as a bomy player (in terms of movement)
- bomies have a different attack range/damage system which means that a bomy vs player fight is never going to be evenly matched.

Let's face the facts... Bomy players are severely limited and it's not possible to change that. Everything on the server is pretty much designed for humans. All anyone ever did as bomy players was complain about the unfairness or even "racism" that bomy players had to deal with. How they never got enough good jobs to do, or quests, or how they couldn't wear hats, or do human jobs... In the end some of these things were resolved but at what cost? Bomies playing instruments and fishing? How the heck did they hold the instruments or tools? Magic?

No I think it was telekinesis or something right? Sorry that's getting a little farfetched for me. I'd like to try and keep the world in some sort of believable setting. Not psychic bomy creatures who have advanced technology and robot suits that let them have arms and laser cannons... It's just not what the original 2k1 was about.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:05 PM
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Correct. We have more than enough on our plate as it is without adding in dozens of bomy ganis, scripting all of the tools/instruments/items/events/jobs/quests/etc to work with bomy players... just so people can walk around as a bomy. I looked at the pros vs the cons and that's what I decided. Just so I might try to convince you of why bomy players are a bad idea, I'll list those pros and cons now:

Pros:
- players get to play as another race which allows them to be more different from another player
- special quests and events and jobs for bomy players only

Cons:
- a crapload more scripting needs to be done
- many more ganis need to be made
- bomies still have no hands so it's hard to make any jobs or events or quests for them
- the new clothing system pretty much cuts out like 10 articles of clothing so they can't use that stuff...
- it was weird and illogical to see bomies walking around talking and acting "human" and then seeing human players walking around with bomy "pets".
- bomy pets allow human players the exact same abilities as a bomy player (in terms of movement)
- bomies have a different attack range/damage system which means that a bomy vs player fight is never going to be evenly matched.

Let's face the facts... Bomy players are severely limited and it's not possible to change that. Everything on the server is pretty much designed for humans. All anyone ever did as bomy players was complain about the unfairness or even "racism" that bomy players had to deal with. How they never got enough good jobs to do, or quests, or how they couldn't wear hats, or do human jobs... In the end some of these things were resolved but at what cost? Bomies playing instruments and fishing? How the heck did they hold the instruments or tools? Magic?

No I think it was telekinesis or something right? Sorry that's getting a little farfetched for me. I'd like to try and keep the world in some sort of believable setting. Not psychic bomy creatures who have advanced technology and robot suits that let them have arms and laser cannons... It's just not what the original 2k1 was about.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:27 PM
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Glad I'm not alone. We will have other races though... just human-type races such as Zormite. (since you can no longer "sethead/setbody" there is a new way to obtain these different races.

They won't have any significant advantage over any other... Basically Zormite are just like Humans... only they look like fish creatures. =P This allows everyone to wear the "human" clothing while being different races.

I think the enormous variety of appearance options you'll have for your character should make up for the fact that you can't be a bomy. I mean you get to change your skin color, hair color, eye color, gender, every article of clothing you're wearing, and so on.

If I was bored enough I'd come up with the actual amount of different possibilities available... I'm sure it's reached the millions by now.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:55 PM
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Would be cool if Zormites swam faster, and maybe have Bomy's evolved more? With hands :S I don't know just a suggestion. Also will the name still be Bomy Island, if there is no longer going to be Bomy's?
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Old 01-30-2007, 11:03 PM
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Im pretty sure there are still going to be Bomy's but they will be used as pets instead of another race.
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Old 01-30-2007, 11:29 PM
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Im pretty sure there are still going to be Bomy's but they will be used as pets instead of another race.
Oh okay, then never mind my last question Konidas.
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Old 01-31-2007, 02:35 AM
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Would be cool if Zormites swam faster
It was considered, but doing so would give an unfair advantage to Zormites. Then you'd have to nerf something of Zormite's... like make them walk slower on land, or make them need to go to water every x amount of time or whatever... and I think that would just be a pain.

I want to make it so everyone is on even ground during events and sparring and such. If zormites swim faster then you can pretty much rule out having zormite/human swimming events since zormites would win hands down. If they walked slower they'd get destroyed in a spar against a human... etc.

It sounds neat to do in theory but the end result isn't so pretty.

As for bomies evolving... lol they aren't pokemon nor do I want them to be. There will definitely still be bomy pets and there will be stories involving bomies... but I'm keeping it basic and not going into lots of detail about all that Zalactic Labs crap and futuristic technology and all of that nonsense. I'd much rather prefer the bomies are just from another planet and are more like dogs or monkeys or something than human beings or super intelligent beings.

I think of them more as Yoshis.
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Old 01-31-2007, 05:51 AM
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Just give humans something special... idk what...
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:17 AM
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Basically Zormite are just like Humans... only they look like fish creatures. =P
Will they be able to join other kingdoms?
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:19 AM
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Bomies could run on a treadmill for some sort of Bomy Slave Electric Generator Program.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:33 AM
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Will they be able to join other kingdoms?
Yup. Except I believe you'll have to be a Zormite to be in the Zormite kingdom...
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