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Old 01-24-2007, 05:10 AM
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Explain how intentionally damaging Zodiac was necessary.
It made a point
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:12 AM
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It made a point
I think you need to pick up a dictionary I think you're mixing up your terms a bit too much. It wasn't necessary to make a point using Zodiac, there are other ways he could have "Made a point".

Necessary in general means that there was no other way of doing something, not that he had a good or bad reason to do so.
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:13 AM
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It made a point
Yea. If you mess up you get globally banned regardless of your true intentions.
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:13 AM
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It made a point

Hitler made a point with the Holocaust.


Does that make it right?
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Old 01-24-2007, 06:29 AM
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Hitler made a point with the Holocaust.


Does that make it right?

Martin Luther King made a point with protests.


Does that make it wrong?


You can always find an extreme either way, try again later loser.
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Old 01-24-2007, 06:32 AM
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Martin Luther King made a point with protests.


Does that make it wrong?


You can always find an extreme either way, try again later loser.
That doesn't well solve things, now does it?
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:14 AM
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It made a point
Given that there are many ways to do this, you are not explaining why it was necessary for him to intentionally damage Zodiac.
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:41 AM
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Given that there are many ways to do this, you are not explaining why it was necessary for him to intentionally damage Zodiac.
Has this even been proven. I haven't seen Stefan make any remark to this extent.

From what I've been told, Yen was banned for no reason by "noobs" who worked on Zodiac who had too much power. Then, wanting a reason to get him in more trouble (Or maybe they were just paranoid), they suspected him of having scripts to delete the server (I just can't see Yen doing this to the work he was so very openly proud of) and shut down the NPC server and searched and found nothing. Stefan even got on and looked and found nothing. Then Stefan went ahead and banned Yen for "Being corrupt and deleting a server." Now, considering this came from the man himself (Yen), you have to take this account with a grain of salt.

But, my point is why has this blown out of proportion when there seems to be no proof to the matter. Actually, as far as I'm concerned, there's proof against it. Not only Yens odd account, either. If Stefan set the server back maybe a few weeks, as has been said, then why would account data be completely gone? I can understand when its players that haven't been playing since before that restore point, but from what I've heard it was more than just them. That just seems peculiar to me. And then the staff just decide that this calls for a complete remake of the server. Whys that? Like people have said, it's not broken.

My theory (however far fetched it may seem to people, and slightly more of a conspiracy theory, really) is that staff wanted to remake Zodiac because they weren't satisfied, or for whatever reason. Yen didn't want it changed, and wouldn't allow it. So the staff simply thought they could get rid of him and make some false reason along with it to remake it. I'll admit there is no real substantial proof to this, but I have my suspicions.

My question is this though; Why do we care? Why has this become such a big deal? Sure Yen seemed to be a pretty big member in the Graal community, most people who pay any attention know who he is, at least through word of mouth. But we act like the President was executed for trying to destroy America. Why can't we shut our mouths and go on with life? I think the same to Yen, because he is REALLY taking this too seriously. He actually told me (and quite seriously) that he would sue Linux Cyberjouers. That's absurd, and everyone knows this will go nowhere.

Please people, just get on with your daily lives, I beg of you. For you own sake.
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:26 AM
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It made a point
It was immature and irresponsible. He abused his immense power within the server to do something brash.
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