Endora = Hosted?

[Chompy]

Is Endora hosted again?

[zephirot]

Apparently O_o

[hampy]

Eh... whats different about it this time?

[black_prince]

Doesn't appear so....In fact it seems to have less content than it did when it went offline...There is no Class Selection, Wood cutting jobs, farming, and there doesnt appear to be a capabil Staff team. If you want my honest opinion I do not think it will go as far as it could have been with there old Staff team.

[killerogue]

I'm giving them the old content. O_O

[WanDaMan]

New Updates - Krattos 7 Dec:
*RESET:
-Thanks to the abusive Staff, everyone has been reseted
-Working on a new GUI and im Back on ENDORA!
-Working hard on new Gui´s And ****

[hampy]

Originally Posted by black_prince

Doesn't appear so....In fact it seems to have less content than it did when it went offline...There is no Class Selection, Wood cutting jobs, farming, and there doesnt appear to be a capabil Staff team. If you want my honest opinion I do not think it will go as far as it could have been with there old Staff team.

Hmm, I wonder which global was persuaded this time

[WanDaMan]

It doesn't help when staff warp to you, take off their tag and then PK you.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by WanDaMan

It doesn't help when staff warp to you, take off their tag and then PK you.

Or sending admin messages threatening to ban you.

[contiga]

It kinda sux yeah haha

Just delagged their HP System, it had 7% lag (of only showing HP of other players), used attr's for that now, so it's clientside and doesnt lag anymore.

[WanDaMan]

Originally Posted by Chris

Or sending admin messages threatening to ban you.

Oh, I got PMed asking if I would like to be jailed by one individual. I disputed and argued our argument against him, I didn't get a reply >:O

[Chompy]

Well, according to the replies over, I don't think Endora is qualified to become
hosted. The staff team there are abusive, and is kind of a "noob" staff just
wanting to be staff, fix the staff team!

Btw, who inspected them?

[hampy]

Originally Posted by Chompy

Btw, who inspected them?

Good question, I would like to know this too, maybe they were drunk??

[black_prince]

Exactly who did inspect them because whoever did....did not do a very good job and they should go on there and look at the kind of staff runing it.

I mean look at this event. I mean if an event named "RAPE" is not abusive then what is?



Also...they do not give the people who win the events....there EC's and the player was cursing in this particular situation



Players even admiting the staff team are corrupted



Player making alligations of a staff meber (Events Team) killing on tag!

[Chompy]

Man, the admins is using admin message when telling their going to bed and sleep >:[



Well, this is starting to bash the playerworld Endora, but seriously, the server
isn't ready for hosted tab! But who made them Hosted? Who inspected them?

[black_prince]

Well, this is starting to bash the playerworld Endora, but seriously, the server isn't ready for hosted tab! But who made them Hosted? Who inspected them?

Exactly....Can some global or someone answer us

[Darlene159]

Seems to be problems with staff here....moved here to check into it.

[HoudiniMan]

A heads up would have sufficed, as this is a valid thread. (Not discussing bans, etc)

Nobody on the PWA passed this world for hosted and I would like that to be known as well.

Endora created a ticket to be renamed and apply for hosted, and during the rename Stefan also moved them "back to hosted". I've forum PMed him asking him to move them back to private until we can inspect and make sure there is no inappropriate content.

I will be looking into the content and staff behavior as part of the hosted inspection.

(Moved to Playerworlds Main)

[hampy]

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

A heads up would have sufficed, as this is a valid thread. (Not discussing bans, etc)

Nobody on the PWA passed this world for hosted and I would like that to be known as well.

Endora created a ticket to be renamed and apply for hosted, and during the rename Stefan also moved them "back to hosted". I've forum PMed him asking him to move them back to private until we can inspect and make sure there is no inappropriate content.

I will be looking into the content and staff behavior as part of the hosted inspection.

(Moved to Playerworlds Main)

Thanks for clearing it up with us, although I dont think stefan should just add a server back to hosted just because they ask him to. As the server is obviously not up to the set standards

[contiga]

I'll boycot the server... Not that I'm proud of this, but; about all of the systems are made by me (the systems are old, I don't script **** like this anymore haha).

I request them removed. The server doesn't deserve to excist with it's current staffteam.

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by contiga

I'll boycot the server... Not that I'm proud of this, but; about all of the systems are made by me (the systems are old, I don't script **** like this anymore haha).

I request them removed. The server doesn't deserve to excist with it's current staffteam.

This is kind of an issue like levels and GFX. You made them and uploaded them to Graal Online. They are Graal Online's property. You intended them for that server, so they are responsible for them.

If everything was removed because of disagreements, things could get messy.

[contiga]

I never allowed them to use the content "I" created.

[black_prince]

Originally Posted by contiga

I never allowed them to use the content "I" created.

Yerp....good point. So its kind of classed as stealing

[Chompy]

And, it's unfair that they make hosted when using the old content that was used
for making hosted, that's kind of annoying for other playerworlds,
but, since they got the content, and have alot of progress, they should have
alot, I mean alot done to make hosted, since they have an adventage,
anyone agree?

I also agree that Stefan should make them private, since the staff are
acting like they can do whatever they can to abuse...

I have dosens of screenies of a staff member killing player, taking their gold,
adding their self classes that doesn't exist (*pointing at JFX with "mutated" somthing...)
Well, also I have screenies of players asking for weapons and getting it,
also I asked a player if they thought if the staffs were abusive, and the player said yes..

I'll post the screenies if anyone wants to see them.

[hampy]

Post em im very nosey

[HoudiniMan]

Darlene contacted me and it seems she moved it to our forums in order to bring it to our attention - as WELL as because threads like this, which attack playerworlds, are not allowed in the forum.

Rather than deleting the thread it was moved to our hidden forum, so do not attack the playerworld in this thread.

I simply wished it to be made known there was an error in communication and that Endora has not passed inspection for Hosted.

If you have an issue with the world please create a support ticket.

[Chompy]

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

Darlene contacted me and it seems she moved it to our forums in order to bring it to our attention - as WELL as because threads like this, which attack playerworlds, are not allowed in the forum.

Rather than deleting the thread it was moved to our hidden forum, so do not attack the playerworld in this thread.

I simply wished it to be made known there was an error in communication and that Endora has not passed inspection for Hosted.

If you have an issue with the world please create a support ticket.

Well, I started the thread as a question; was endora hosted now?

Well, then a discussion started, and here we are now,
in a discussion about that endora is hosted,
and the bad behavior of the staff team.

Originally Posted by hampy

Post em im very nosey

Ok, here are some of them:


Well, that guy is Riley Fiery, he's in the gani team


Well, if you see at the tree: it says -19, the guy with the bow was summoned on the roof by Dark Fiery, so he could pk >_>
Also it's cursing from the player..


Attempt on summoning by a staff, they couldn't do that!


I asked a player if the staff is abusive..

[Chompy]

OK; Look at this, this is abusive, I think!?


Well, my magic level >_>


woah, my bow level!! <_<

Btw, sorry for double post, but look at my stats >:[
with those stats I could kill like everyone!!
I have no idea how I got the staff

[contiga]

Yeah well it sucks hell, in the most recent version, skill levels were all limited, so you wouldn't have outbalanced stats.. it just sucks that they've made such a **** server of it. What I would agree with, is if Stefan'd check the old backups for a most-finished version of Endora and upload that. With ofcourse, a new management.

[Chompy]

Originally Posted by contiga

Yeah well it sucks hell, in the most recent version, skill levels were all limited, so you wouldn't have outbalanced stats.. it just sucks that they've made such a **** server of it. What I would agree with, is if Stefan'd check the old backups for a most-finished version of Endora and upload that. With ofcourse, a new management.

Before I was like Endora is uber good and stuff, but now its crushed
by abusive staffs, well: When the server were private the staff
did abuse a lot more!!!!!!! ();
They made wolf baddies like level 1k something, and they couldn't move... >_>
they just like summoned me and told me to kill them,
I got resetted when hosted went back, but I stilll
have my stats..

Edit:

Contiga, you could do this: when Endora gets private, then you can remake endora (new systems with your new scripting skills (from when you made those systems) etc.. Hire a new staff team and such)

[contiga]

Originally Posted by Chompy

Contiga, you could do this: when Endora gets private, then you can remake endora (new systems with your new scripting skills (from when you made those systems) etc.. Hire a new staff team and such)

No thanks, I'm so done with Endora :P

[Chompy]

Originally Posted by contiga

No thanks, I'm so done with Endora :P

What's you new plans then? Just wondering

[Matt]

Hrm, Chompy, if you really cared about Endora's staff team and how they act ect, you'd try to get them penalized by creating a support ticket. Attacking them publically will just embarass them. x-x

[Chompy]

Originally Posted by Matt

Hrm, Chompy, if you really cared about Endora's staff team and how they act ect, you'd try to get them penalized by creating a support ticket. Attacking them publically will just embarass them. x-x

Well, I just started the thread as a question, I did not start the discussion about the abusive staffs, I just joined the discussion...

Why should I send a support ticket when the thread started as a question?
And I'm not attacking them, I'm just posting screenshots of what their staffs do,
(and how messy my stats were), it's the staffs fault that I got the screenshots, so.. I am not attacking them..




Well, when is this getting fixed ( They getting private)?
Since Endora is not ready for Hosted..

[Crono]

i dont get this whole "DUN ATAK PLAYERUWLRDZ LOL"

When you clearly have valid proof and some kind of sane argument i don't see why such a thread shouldn't be allowed. This is a perfect thread showing how unprofessional this hosted server is. That's far from illegal in my opinion and all players should be informed.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Gerami

When you clearly have valid proof and some kind of sane argument i don't see why such a thread shouldn't be allowed...

Wrong:

Originally Posted by Forum Rules

f) Do not make threads to bash a playerworld, or players and/or staff. If you have a problem you wish to report please contact a member of the Playerworld Administration...

[contiga]

Originally Posted by Chompy

What's you new plans then? Just wondering

Currently working on some stuff on Graal Kingdoms. When I'm done with that I will probally work on Graal2001 Dev again.

Originally Posted by Gerami

When you clearly have valid proof and some kind of sane argument i don't see why such a thread shouldn't be allowed. This is a perfect thread showing how unprofessional this hosted server is. That's far from illegal in my opinion and all players should be informed.

Wow, Crono talks proper english

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Gerami

i dont get this whole "DUN ATAK PLAYERUWLRDZ LOL"

When you clearly have valid proof and some kind of sane argument i don't see why such a thread shouldn't be allowed. This is a perfect thread showing how unprofessional this hosted server is. That's far from illegal in my opinion and all players should be informed.

It is too easy to fake "valid proof". I am sure this is partially the reason behind the rule. Not to mention the forums would be full of "so and so did this to me", and "so and so did that to me", people posting stuff out of anger because they got in trouble. We all know how it goes, and how ugly it can get, and it's not always valid no matter how it seems.
It isn't fair to drag people and playerworlds through the mud, and then find out later that it was completely bogus. The damage is already done, and there are times when people/playerworlds are trashed needlessly, and that follows them like a bad smell forever.

This thread was questioning if Endora was hosted, and was good information to disclose that the pwa did not inspect it, and was not the cause of it being hosted, and also good info from people playing and showing that it should not be hosted because of issues, but there is a fine line between discussing why a PW should or should not be hosted, and outright bashing people or the playerworld.

The issues of staff abuse, and whatever do not belong on the forums, but rather in a support ticket so that the correct officials can check into the alligations, it does not belong on the forums.

I do, however, believe that there should be a section where the pwa, globals, admins, etc...should be able to post warnings to other PW owners/managers, and players about certain things they should be aware of. It should not be put into the players hands to do so...too many people do things out of spite, and too many times the info is false or highly exagerated.
To have a section where warnings are posted that have been proven true by higher ups as a warning to others is probably a good idea.

[Chompy]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

I do, however, believe that there should be a section where the pwa, globals, admins, etc...should be able to post warnings to other PW owners/managers, and players about certain things they should be aware of.

Agreed, and some nice rules (like posting:

omg, the playerworld <name here> is abusin, they jailed me) and it would be deleted without a warning or reason, fast deleting :]

well, this would be much better if there was a forum part like that, and you would need valid proofs ( videos could been edited), dunno about screenshots

Oh well, I just hope someone removes Endora from Hosted tab

[MysticX2X]

Well Endora's playercount is reaching higher than most classic worlds 0_o.