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Old 11-13-2006, 12:18 AM
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In the same sense, a person's access to a forum should not be defined by one person's judgement on what's mature
And who do you think should judge this process?
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And who do you think should judge this process?
No one, that's why it's 18+, not "act like 18+"
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I take personal offense to this. I'm 23 and I don't feel like I should be told I'm immature because I like to play games like Graal. What should adults be doing oh wise one? Reading newspapers and drinking coffee? Should every person over the age of 21 be getting married, having kids and working 9 to 5? What a load. Please don't post in this thread anymore. Save yourself the embarassment.
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And 23 is abit different from 40+, wiseguy
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And 23 is abit different from 40+, wiseguy
How is it different besides the numbers? Only difference I see is that I am old enough to have grown children, and Grandkids

Is it horrible that I like to play viseo games, and other PC games too? I have always loved video games, and computer games.
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How is it different besides the numbers? Only difference I see is that I am old enough to have grown children, and Grandkids

Is it horrible that I like to play viseo games, and other PC games too? I have always loved video games, and computer games.
There is a huge difference. There is an entire generation gone bye. New trends, new styles, new attitudes. Obviously you have either consciously or sub-consciously adapted some of these as they effect your daily life, but an entire generation is a huge difference.
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I would love to see this discussion, I think a forum where there is little or no moderation exept when people are being seriously offended or racism etc, I think this should be created
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...exept when people are being seriously offended or racism etc, I think this should be created
Except, I can almost guarantee you, that this is what would mostly be there, based on other forums I have seen try this. It just doesn't work.
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Except, I can almost guarantee you, that this is what would mostly be there, based on other forums I have seen try this. It just doesn't work.
With good moderation, it would work fine.
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With good moderation, it would work fine.
No it won't. Not here.
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Yeah, I've suggested it before, never this seriously.
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Yeah, I've suggested it before, never this seriously.
You have yet to give a reason why this forum would have any use beyond being used for the discussion of two or three very narrow subjects by a very small group of members.
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I'd like to know how it would make the general forum worse?
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I'd like to know how it would make the general forum worse?
It's really very simple. The game is marketed to children, and the creator and owner has no interest in expanding beyond it. It's not out of spite, or bitterness, it's a business decision.
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It's really very simple. The game is marketed to children, and the creator and owner has no interest in expanding beyond it. It's not out of spite, or bitterness, it's a business decision.
Most of the people here are above 18, so his business plan is to...treat them like little kids?
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Most of the people here are above 18, so his business plan is to...treat them like little kids?
Most of the people where? On the Graal forums?
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Most of the people where? On the Graal forums?
Yup.
Even if they lied on that poll, it still means that they wanted to be treated like adults.
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Most of the people here are above 18, so his business plan is to...treat them like little kids?
You're looking at this as if clients for Graalonline are limited, and that Unixmad has to make decisions based solely on them. Sure, perhaps there are lots of 18/18+ users - but the game is for kids, and I imagine he won't change that any time soon (based on his lack of interest in such a forum).
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If it is truely marketed towards children I am very suprised at that, I mean for the most part only us old people (18+) even remember the non-3d zelda series so we are the ones that go "ahh that takes me back I think i will play this". Most kids these days just want 3d action packed shoot em up games. They cannot appreciate an SNES style game such as graal.
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Please, please, please show me how you can prove that most members of Graal are 18+
You keep saying this and I don't see how you could possibly know this information.
Most of the members I have met, are under 18
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Yup.
Even if they lied on that poll, it still means that they wanted to be treated like adults.
Did you get it that time?
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Did you get it that time?
I don't care about some piddly poll. I want to know where you get the statistics that most members of these forums are 18+.
Oh, and children wanting to be treated like adults, and members actually being adults ar two different things
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I don't care about some piddly poll. I want to know where you get the statistics that most members of these forums are 18+.
Oh, and children wanting to be treated like adults, and members actually being adults ar two different things
Doesn't matter, if they claim they're 18, you can't be blamed.
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Doesn't matter, if they claim they're 18, you can't be blamed.
Obviously it does matter to the owner of this forum.
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Did you get it that time?
either that or they want to discuss pornography, etc.
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either that or they want to discuss pornography, etc.
The internet IS for porn.
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Pfft, this game is directed at a younger playerbase, sure. I can deal with that.

But what about the adults? Who don't want to sift through crap that kids post?

A place where we can have proper conversations and not be banned, or receive infractions to a degree. I don't mean "oh wow excal posted pr0n lets go talk about it".

Falling on deaf ears, I bet.
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Sorry, had to get it off my mind.
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Sorry, had to get it off my mind.
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Title describes it pretty well. A lounge like atmosphere, with relaxed rules, targeted at the users who are 18 or older.
Yes, I know you can't be sure of a person's age online. However, the age they have in the forums, combined with the fact that they want to sign up, should be good enough. People normally don't stretch their age too much online anyway, and if they feel as though they want to talk about more mature topics, let them. Also, if they sign up for it, claiming they are 18+, then Graalonline has no liability if they see something they 'shouldn't' have. Of course, if they're online, chances are, they've seen things 1000 times worse online, and wouldn't have a problem with it. If they are the kind of person who does not like reading about more mature topics, hen they wouldn't have signed up for membership in that forum!

This forum would need a clear, separate set of rules, to make sure it doesn't lose it's value as an 18+ forum. It would also ensure that people wouldn't have their access removed forever. It would be the same as the normal forums. They would have a time that they are 'banned for, and at the end of that time, they get their access back. The lounge currently is not ran this way, which is highly unethical.

Anyway, what do you think?
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....You're 16.
He's 18 unless you know something his profile doesn't.
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He's 18 unless you know something his profile doesn't.
He isn't 18. I believe he mentioned it on the UGCC or something
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The 18+ section would turn to **** if Yen was a member.
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