18+ Forum
 

Title describes it pretty well. A lounge like atmosphere, with relaxed rules, targeted at the users who are 18 or older.
Yes, I know you can't be sure of a person's age online. However, the age they have in the forums, combined with the fact that they want to sign up, should be good enough. People normally don't stretch their age too much online anyway, and if they feel as though they want to talk about more mature topics, let them. Also, if they sign up for it, claiming they are 18+, then Graalonline has no liability if they see something they 'shouldn't' have. Of course, if they're online, chances are, they've seen things 1000 times worse online, and wouldn't have a problem with it. If they are the kind of person who does not like reading about more mature topics, hen they wouldn't have signed up for membership in that forum!

This forum would need a clear, separate set of rules, to make sure it doesn't lose it's value as an 18+ forum. It would also ensure that people wouldn't have their access removed forever. It would be the same as the normal forums. They would have a time that they are 'banned for, and at the end of that time, they get their access back. The lounge currently is not ran this way, which is highly unethical.

Anyway, what do you think?

What on earth would you do with an 18+ forum; discuss pornography? It is a bad idea. :/

I wouldn't discuss "smoking" in the lounge if this was in place, or the elections, etc.
We could have discussions of politics, world issues, news, war, voting, tobacco, college life, alcohol, and other things that people under 18 wouldn't be interested in.
Things that normally start a good debate are closed in the main forums, but they wouldn't be here.

I am under 18 and I am perfectly happy to discuss these subjects. The Lounge can be used to discuss these subjects already.

No, it can't.
Because they're not allowed, and the lounge has no real clear set rules.
It has the same rules as the main forum, but you can post links. Also, it has nothing regarding loss of access. Almost all of the things I said would be closed in the main forum or in the lounge. Plus, the creation of this would insure that the main forums stays a friendly place. The utopia Unix wanted for these forums would exist if he put a place for all the bad things for people who are 18+

I think the problem here is that my idea of 'discussion' is different to yours. I should imagine that if everyone participating in the discusison was sensible, then there would be no problem. The problem is that most of the forum users are not sensible in such discussions. Cyberjoueurs should not be obliged to cater for problematic users.

Hmm, I am not sure why you need such a +18 forum here.
1. You dont have access to the lounge, so why do you think you get access to a +18 forum?
2. We've tried to let people discuss mature topics in the lounge, but it didn't work in most issues,
3. Why you need such a forum here, you can use the other forum created by some people of this community.

I could not start a normal discussion of how to get over a hangover in the lounge.
Even if everybody was sympathetic, and giving good advice, it would simply be deleted.

Besides, as opposed to banning certain topics, how about doing some deleting of the offending posts, as opposed to the entire thread?

This would allow for the players who want to discuss more to be happy, as well as the people who want the forums to stay child friendly, as no one would try to discuss these topics in the forum's current state.

I don't have access to the lounge, because moderators can choose to ban anyone they want. I was banned for questioning the moderators judgment, and was told I could get it back later. After I reapplied, I was told I was harassing them, and would soon be banned.
If there were clear rules defining moderator actions, that kind of crap (for the lack of a child friendly word) could not happen.

As for the ugcc, it's full of people who act like immature little kids, okay? i feel as though a forum only for 18+ users could be more mature, and handle the responsibility of slacked rules better.

I guess the better question is...why not?

just a point. I have asked you if I can post something in the lounge and it derails the thread so that you close it and say we aren't mature enough when I don't even think it has gotten to a bad spot yet.

Wow so you guys don't care if we post there anymore?

Why talk about historic threads? Tell me why we need another forum to talk about mature topics, if its not possible for users to talk here in a mature way?
And Excaliber, if I read the other forum and see who is talking immature I see they are almost all +18.

No, we do not need a forum to discuss adult material on a kids game!!!
This game is NOT for adults only, and this game is mainly what these forums are for. Ugh, I get so tired of explaining this over and over to the same people/person!!

Also, no one said when access was removed from the lounge, it could not be reversed, it can at our discresion, if the person shows they can be mature enough......eventually.

This thread is only an excuse to stir up trouble.....again :/
This will not happen.

Exactly.... ^^

I never said we did. we don't. the mods are very relaxed in teh loune

Age does not determine ones level of maturity.


This is something that everyone needs to realize, including the administration.

I am sure everyone knows this. Example, my 13 year old is more mature than a lot of adults I know. Doesn't make her an adult, however.