Players shouldn't allowed to be staff

[HoudiniMan]

I think Graal should have paid administrators at some level.

Management for classic worlds, the GM, whoever, but somebody who is being paid not to be a jerk and to keep everybody else in line.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

I think Graal should have paid administrators at some level.

Management for classic worlds, the GM, whoever, but somebody who is being paid not to be a jerk and to keep everybody else in line.

Someone who doesn't ban a player because they believe they're causing a playerworld to crash, when he was clearly telling people what the actual problem was?

[hampy]

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

I think Graal should have paid administrators at some level.

Unix is always complaining about how much Graal costs him already, I don't think he would even consider this

[Tyhm]

Originally Posted by hampy

Unix is always complaining about how much Graal costs him already, I don't think he would even consider this

True. Besides, when I was staff I mostly sat around waiting for something to do; ironically, I care more when I have free reign, and only have free reign when I'm not being paid to Accomplish Something. It's the great paradox of Graal - volunteers are the only ones that care, because they're the ones that would do an indefinite workload for free; paid employees put in their time and go home.

Well, except Stefan, he does everything and then some. Honestly, I've tried coding; no idea how he codes new stuff, supports old stuff, runs a couple worlds, and on top of all that is expected to answer support tickets and break up squabbles. But I digress.

Professional paid staff's tricky. If you pay an artist by the hour, it's amazing how long a commissioned piece takes; it's not a slight against artists, it's a slight against hourly wages for commissioned tasks. But you can't very well pay people a dime for every ticket answered...
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...no, horrible idea, they'd wind up generating tickets to "Resolve them satisfactorily". It'd encourage them to get their jobs done, but it's not the big smart answer. Paying FAQs would be even worse.

No, I think it goes back to the FAQ should be player oriented and unofficial - the system exists for all, the system caters to an experienced player helping a group of newbies, all is well in the world. The GP should probably be a global network of hacker catchers - but then, I tend to think scriptwise, and thus figure it's really a scripting problem if anyone can hack a supposedly secure script. Likewise I figure it's a cinch to catch people abusing the rules if the system can catch them at it, but clearly I'm wrong in this. Perhaps a single global individual in charge of security, of posting and enforcing the Global Rules, and sorting out complaints, answering tickets, and generally representing Stefan and Unixmad when they've got better things to do than sort out which local staffer's misbehaving - maybe that'd help, but the duties would need to be clear and numerous.
Level admins...well, we mostly work for the glory of having our work published. Pay us to do something else and we won't have much fun at it. Ultimately no reason for a level admin to have GP-style powers - they got no reason to warp people, if a level malfunctions and warps everyone into a wall that same level, when repaired, can warp everyone out again.
Game Coordinators, heresy though it is, are in the same boat as FAQs. An official title to rally around, perhaps, but an official board or announcement-system is just as good. It should be something that players can do just as easily...though rewards are always going to be tricky, beating your other idling account in a sparring contest oughtn't net you a ticket.
Perhaps rewards should be based on participation, or on general player approval?

I dunno, just my views.

[Loakey_P2P]

I would suggest a few changes.For the longest time server's have been all about keeping their npcs and stuff to their server alone.There has been alot of debate about ownership of thing's made by player's and used on graalonline server's.I would suggest a new server that isnt like normal server's but more of a development server.Here player's from the graal development community would script npc's , make images , gani's or mabey even small area's to be used freely on any graal server.

Of course their will be debate about everyone haveing the same stuff so of course their will be guide line's.The npc script's will be open to any and all server's.Minor changes can be made at the server's request by the development server staff or it can be done by their own people.Images of course may be limited to only a few server's per image as to not take the varity out of the server's.The same will go for gani's.

Level area's may be used on only one or two server's.This server would basically just make and distribute graal related stuff for classic or private server's.The majority of the time will be spent working on basic stuff used on graal server's in different way's of functioning.A request can be put in for work at any time but must be done by either the manager or co/asst manager to insure authentisity.I would spell it better but i cant find my pocket dictonary.

In lamen's term's, to insure the request is for real and not some underling on a server misunderstood the need or how to go about it.Admin's on server's would also be a accetable person to put in a request.The point of this server tho would be good open source graal support.The idea of request being restricted has nothing to do with open source, it has to do with the time wasted on material that wont be used.The real hard part would be to create an awsome team of graal developer's that could get along long enough to get some work done long term .

But on the thought of player's being staff, i think it is mandatory.Your gona have bad people no matter where you go.I know ive delt with many people durring my day's in graal.Ive seen it every where from all type's.Makeing it more selective isnt gona solve it, that just mean's they will come in being good people but over time with too much power they will courpt sooner or later.