Information on the Zormite situation.

Raelyn · #1 10-09-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CidNight1142

I'd have to say going with Googi, Kyden, Damix, or someone in that line would be a good idea. I really think having a person in who doesn't take the system so seriously will do a better job.

And yes, they should be upset about what Alarico did. Since it was fairly atrocious.

So you're disqualifying me because I take myself and my position seriously rather than immaturely blowing everything off and doing whatever "feels" right?

Waltz5 · #2 10-09-2006, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn

So you're disqualifying me because I take myself and my position seriously rather than immaturely blowing everything off and doing whatever "feels" right?

Take the pole out... it's Graal.

And if you have power right now, why isn't Zormite flourishing with members as you said?
Vote Googi.

Raelyn · #3 10-09-2006, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Waltz5

Take the pole out... it's Graal.

And if you have power right now, why isn't Zormite flourishing with members as you said?
Vote Googi.

I was only given power, and limited power, a few days ago. You try reviving a kingdom in 72 hours.

CidNight1142 · #4 10-09-2006, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn

So you're disqualifying me because I take myself and my position seriously rather than immaturely blowing everything off and doing whatever "feels" right?

I think that 'taking yourself and your position seriously' will cause you to overthink the situation. Some of your ideas are great. Working with new players really is the key to good kingdoms. You can have all the power wielding lvl 110's in your army and you're still going to have an 8 member kingdom. I'd much rather have 30 members ranging from levels 5-110. But in that same respect, having a simplistic leader that isn't going to expect the world from the level 5 noob is going to help your kingdom blossom in that way.

Raelyn · #5 10-09-2006, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CidNight1142

I think that 'taking yourself and your position seriously' will cause you to overthink the situation. Some of your ideas are great. Working with new players really is the key to good kingdoms. You can have all the power wielding lvl 110's in your army and you're still going to have an 8 member kingdom. I'd much rather have 30 members ranging from levels 5-110. But in that same respect, having a simplistic leader that isn't going to expect the world from the level 5 noob is going to help your kingdom blossom in that way.

I'd never expect the world of a level 5 noob, I'd expect the rest of the kingdom to be doing their best to try to help no longer BE a level 5 noob.

I think your logical is flawed.

Furthermore, having a simplistic leader will only result in your kingdom being led by a simpleton.

CidNight1142 · #6 10-09-2006, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn

Furthermore, having a simplistic leader will only result in your kingdom being led by a simpleton.

Or one that leads the most powerful and popular kingdom for well over a year. Whichever one works.

Raelyn · #7 10-09-2006, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CidNight1142

Or one that leads the most powerful and popular kingdom for well over a year. Whichever one works.

CP doesn't need a ruler to be powerful and popular, the theme alone makes it popular.

It's alot harder to convince someone to roleplay a fish. I mean, seriously.

CidNight1142 · #8 10-09-2006, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn

CP doesn't need a ruler to be powerful and popular, the theme alone makes it popular.

It's alot harder to convince someone to roleplay a fish. I mean, seriously.

That excuse may sort of work for Zormite. But consider Samurai and Dustari, who sit in nearly the exact same position as Zormite. Japanese culture and playing knights are, well, obnoxiously popular with today's youth.

Drakeero · #9 10-09-2006, 01:13 AM

Uninspired leaders who don't take their rank seriously usually get to watch their kingdom utterly decay beneath them unless they're good, or the kingdom itself is relatively powerful and self-maintaining.

Zormite is not very healthy right now, and it is certainly not self maintaining. It needs a leader who will take its development (not its state of war with everyone) seriously in order to improve.

CidNight1142 · #10 10-09-2006, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Drakeero

Uninspired leaders who don't take their rank seriously usually get to watch their kingdom utterly decay beneath them unless they're good, or the kingdom itself is relatively powerful and self-maintaining.

Zormite is not very healthy right now, and it is certainly not self maintaining. It needs a leader who will take its development (not its state of war with everyone) seriously in order to improve.

The only successful kingdom leader in the past year has been Alan Steele. He's the only one who's lasted longer than a few weeks, no matter a year or longer. His approach is most definately not powergaming and manhandling his ranks. He has fun. He runs events because they're fun and he keeps his members happy by being nice to them and not treating the lvl 110 powergamer any better than the babyfaced lvl 4 noob. A little bit of nonchalance goes a long way.

Raelyn · #11 10-09-2006, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CidNight1142

The only successful kingdom leader in the past year has been Alan Steele. He's the only one who's lasted longer than a few weeks, no matter a year or longer. His approach is most definately not powergaming and manhandling his ranks. He has fun. He runs events because they're fun and he keeps his members happy by being nice to them and not treating the lvl 110 powergamer any better than the babyfaced lvl 4 noob. A little bit of nonchalance goes a long way.

I highly disagree, while I do think that having fun and holding events is a good way to run a kingdom, keep in mind, he became governor because he is Lisa's husband, an already established member of CP, and despite the fact that he had only been playing graal for about a month, was handed the position on a silver platter, after it had just been exploited away from Ziro and sold USD to someone else.

If you want to argue here about Googi's vendetta being proper because Zormite was stolen and sold USD, you might as well replace Alan as leader of CP for the same reason.

Alan has done alot for treating his members well, and keeping the game fun with frequent events, but in that same respect, he doesn't run a kingdom of pirates, he runs a kingdom of adolescents who think pirates are cool. Arrr.

CidNight1142 · #12 10-09-2006, 01:28 AM

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Blah

Yeah, mistakes of leaders long before Alan had the kingdom really should lessen the fact that he's still by a huge margin the most successful kingdom leader in recent GK history. To deny that his method doesn't work is pure jealousy.

But you've got a great point, we really should have found some real pirates to play GK. Adolescents pretending to be pirates is terrible. Adolescents pretending to be fish is much more acceptable.

Raelyn · #13 10-09-2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CidNight1142

Yeah, mistakes of leaders long before Alan had the kingdom really should lessen the fact that he's still by a huge margin the most successful kingdom leader in recent GK history. To deny that his method doesn't work is pure jealousy.

But you've got a great point, we really should have found some real pirates to play GK. Adolescents pretending to be pirates is terrible. Adolescents pretending to be fish is much more acceptable.

First, I wasn't implying his method didn't work, no jealousy here.

Second, they don't even pretend to be pirates, they don't even roleplay, at most, they will use the words "Ahoy, Aye and Arrr." frequently.

CidNight1142 · #14 10-09-2006, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn

Second, they don't even pretend to be pirates, they don't even roleplay, at most, they will use the words "Ahoy, Aye and Arrr." frequently.

Yeah, except for the fact that you just removed that information directly from your rear end. You obviously have little to no idea what you're talking about.

If you recall, this discussion is not about the Pirates. It's about Zormite. Let's hear some of your ideas for getting this amazing RP out of your players if you were made leader?

Googi · #15 10-09-2006, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Raelyn

Second, they don't even pretend to be pirates, they don't even roleplay, at most, they will use the words "Ahoy, Aye and Arrr." frequently.

That's pretty much roleplaying. RPing doesn't require you to be an elitist who writes a 6 page backstory.