Lifetime Classic - Page 14

pooper200000 · #**196** 10-08-2006, 08:21 PM

I like classic but gold is much better in most areas.

Skyld · #**197** 10-08-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by zim5354

That needs money who pays the money? The players, your statement made no sense kthxbai.

What? Go and take a class on Business Studies.

pacMASTA1 · #**198** 10-08-2006, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

What? Go and take a class on Business Studies.

Yes the most fundimental thing for a succesful business the customer is always right even when they are wrong; Change your standerds to meet that of your target customer / current customers, always keep your clients happy and they will keep you happy.

Zzz time to prove my point i have 5 accounts and I will be quite pissed if I have to reupgrade everyone of them because classic for life gos away.

Skyld · #**199** 10-08-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pacMASTA1

Yes the most fundimental thing for a succesful business the customer is always right even when they are wrong; Change your standerds to meet that of your target customer / current customers, always keep your clients happy and they will keep you happy.

Zzz time to prove my point i have 5 accounts and I will be quite pissed if I have to reupgrade everyone of them because classic for life gos away.

The problem is that the business will lose it's solvency unless it makes decisions for itself. A business like Cyberjoueurs needs to make money to keep the day-to-day operations going, even if the users slightly disagree with some measures. There has to be a balance.

Infernix · #**200** 10-08-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I was more referring to from now on. I was not saying to take it away from those who already have it.
Do you really think that the owners will listen to anything you have to say when you post so hatefully?
Learn how to post constructively, and your opinion might be heard/read.

Now your a grown woman, does that rlly sound fair or a smart idea to you? Cause Im pretty sure if I knew some people had classic for life free accounts and I didnt because I joined at a later time Id be pretty PO.

Unixmad is asking for a Solution soo... Im going to say somthing simple and not very complex.

Solution:Focus on a new server that is not 3D but yet 2d and Brings a lot of interactive content that to a "new" or current graal player would seem professional and fun.

pacMASTA1 · #**201** 10-08-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

The problem is that the business will lose it's solvency unless it makes decisions for itself. A business like Cyberjoueurs needs to make money to keep the day-to-day operations going, even if the users slightly disagree with some measures. There has to be a balance.

Slightlee disagree this seems to be more like a major uproar charging for updates; getting ride of classic for life? This is angering more players then it is doing anygood; How can you balance a business when their are no clients?

Darlene159 · #**202** 10-08-2006, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Infernix

Now your a grown woman, does that rlly sound fair or a smart idea to you? Cause Im pretty sure if I knew some people had classic for life free accounts and I didnt because I joined at a later time Id be pretty PO.

that's business. A business can never make everyone happy, it is impossible.

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Originally Posted by pacMASTA1

getting ride of classic for life? This is angering more players then it is doing anygood; How can you balance a business when their are no clients?

Just because it was suggested, does not mean it will happen. There are a lot more suggestions in this thread other than that.

Crono · #**203** 10-08-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

that's business. A business can never make everyone happy, it is impossible.

but a business can make good decisions

pacMASTA1 · #**204** 10-08-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

that's business. A business can never make everyone happy, it is impossible.

But the point of the business is not to 'F' over your whole business blowoff all your clients, and anger everyone... Theirs a difference between making EVERYONE happy and making NO-ONE happy

Darlene159 · #**205** 10-08-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

but a business can make good decisions

Yes, but a good decision to some, may be called a bad decision by others.

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Originally Posted by pacMASTA1

But the point of the business is not to 'F' over your whole business blowoff all your clients, and anger everyone... Theirs a difference between making EVERYONE happy and making NO-ONE happy

I don't think you can say "no one is happy"

pacMASTA1 · #**206** 10-08-2006, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I don't think you can say "no one is happy"

Sure unixmad will be when he scams players into upgrading for crappy content; Serverowners forced to upgrade to be able to still work / own their server... But will the players truely be happy NO-ONE likes to spend money and spend money for basically 0 content change no less; forcing players to upgrade AGAIN is even more terrible.

Infernix · #**207** 10-08-2006, 09:33 PM

@Moonie
But you can say the majority of people is unhappy and when the majority is not happy your not running a successful buisness and thus your probobly not making good decisions. That I am sure.

Darlene159 · #**208** 10-08-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Infernix

@Moonie
But you can say the majority of people is unhappy and when the majority is not happy your not running a successful buisness and thus your probobly not making good decisions. That I am sure.

I can't say whether the majority of the Graal members are happy or unhappy, as the majority do not post on these forums, and I do not discuss it with all players of Graal on every playerworld.

zim5354 · #**209** 10-08-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

They want to make money while serving their chosen category. If it was simply "PEOPLE HAVE MONEY WE WANT IT" they'd open strip bars, opium dens, and firearm shops.

"kthxbai"

Graal arms inc. ,Graal bar, Graal strip and slip...Im seeing the dollar signs already!

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Listening to players does not mean doing everything that they say.
I am positive that ideas, and suggestions have been read by Unixmad and Stefan.

Not everything but taking what they say to mind. Hell look at how long people have been talking about G2k1 and Classic on the fourms (I.E. Take it away from Lance etc..) and look how long it took before Lance just gave it up.

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Originally Posted by Skyld

The problem is that the business will lose it's solvency unless it makes decisions for itself. A business like Cyberjoueurs needs to make money to keep the day-to-day operations going, even if the users slightly disagree with some measures. There has to be a balance.

This is not slightly disagreeing. He said once you buy a gold account you get to keep it forever and play classic, well down the road he is talking about taking that away. I payed for the account and I want to keep it. That might as well be robbery.

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Yes, but a good decision to some, may be called a bad decision by others.

I don't think you can say "no one is happy"

When the majority of your customers say its a bad decision it is usually a bad decision for your business.

Googi · #**210** 10-08-2006, 09:48 PM

I wonder if Moon Goddess is even going to try to claim that her moderation method is profitable to Graal.