Bring back Alt+5

[pacMASTA]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Alt+5 made it way too easy for people to steal stuff.
I don't remember if it had the npc codes or not, but people could easily copy and paste level work, gfx, and whatever.

Psst Darlene shut up.

Do you honsetly know what your talking about mind you; You will most likely delete this post before it hits the light of day because omg im going against darlene; Honestly you cant really steal the level considering each server basically uses new tilesets.. and beyond that howlong will the level be uploaded before it causes an stink and everyone gets pissed and the stolent content gets removed?

Also its not like npcs can be stolen, all that was displayed was the level .nw dump and the players too as dummy npcs. NPCs really are the core of graal now anyone can look at john does level and rip it off without using alt + 5 so really nothing would change if the guy REALLY wants to steal it he will; Bringing ALT + 5 wont change anything at all and would be a cool feature to see again.

Edit: In effect really all it is like taking a picture you can modify which is very cool.. Its like builtin photoshop for graal levels?

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by pacMASTA

Psst Darlene shut up.

Do you honsetly know what your talking about mind you; You will most likely delete this post before it hits the light of day because omg im going against darlene; Honestly you cant really steal the level considering each server basically uses new tilesets.. and beyond that howlong will the level be uploaded before it causes an stink and everyone gets pissed and the stolent content gets removed?

Also its not like npcs can be stolen, all that was displayed was the level .nw dump and the players too as dummy npcs. NPCs really are the core of graal now anyone can look at john does level and rip it off without using alt + 5 so really nothing would change if the guy REALLY wants to steal it he will; Bringing ALT + 5 wont change anything at all and would be a cool feature to see again.

Edit: In effect really all it is like taking a picture you can modify which is very cool.. Its like builtin photoshop for graal levels?

You're a rude person.

[pacMASTA]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

You're a rude person.

Ya.. But only at certain people if i may

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I'm rude because i can be and eh everyone has their bias and things they dont like about certian people but back on topic; Alt+5 should be returned or something cool should take its place possibly mpeg recording of graal? O.o instead of just a png or something maybe a limited 15-20second video clip can be created and encoded to a free mpeg format just a idea to bounce off of Stefan is the graal save feature can't be returned.

[KuJi]

Originally Posted by pacMASTA

Ya.. But only at certain people if i may




I'm rude because i can be and eh everyone has their bias and things they dont like about certian people but back on topic; Alt+5 should be returned or something cool should take its place possibly mpeg recording of graal? O.o instead of just a png or something maybe a limited 15-20second video clip can be created and encoded to a free mpeg format just a idea to bounce off of Stefan is the graal save feature can't be returned.

Something like that would REALLY populate youtube for graal searching.. hopefully its quality-saved =o

[pacMASTA]

Originally Posted by KuJi

Something like that would REALLY populate youtube for graal searching.. hopefully its quality-saved =o

Ya ALT+5 becomoing a video encoder would bea fresher and cooler idea then just a graal save of the level which i dubt may even be possible and will open some security holes lol. Because it means theirs a method to PULL the level itself down perhaps a person would abuse this and find a method to pull the actual level so i vote this/

Scrap the graal level save idea for ALT+5; Make it a video capturer feature for graal

[Minoc]

Originally Posted by pacMASTA

Scrap the graal level save idea for ALT+5; Make it a video capturer feature for graal

Why not have both?
The two features are unrelated.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by pacMASTA

Because it means theirs a method to PULL the level itself down

If by "pull the level itself down" you mean "download the level", you download the level the first time you step into it, and it's hypothetically possible to extract all details of the level (possibly including NPC scripts) from the .code files in your weblevels folder.

[pacMASTA]

Originally Posted by Googi

If by "pull the level itself down" you mean "download the level", you download the level the first time you step into it, and it's hypothetically possible to extract all details of the level (possibly including NPC scripts) from the .code files in your weblevels folder.

... Very true.

[maximus_asinus]

Originally Posted by Googi

If by "pull the level itself down" you mean "download the level", you download the level the first time you step into it, and it's hypothetically possible to extract all details of the level (possibly including NPC scripts) from the .code files in your weblevels folder.

These files are encrypted, and you'd have to go out of your way to open these levels. Sure it is possible, but VERY unlikely.

ALT+5 would be a simple way for one person to steal a level from another server. Sure there are custom tilesets, but usually these are just variations of the default tileset, and the structure for most levels would not change, unless you modified the tileset to the extent that the tiles are completely different (and if you were willing to go that far, you're probably running a quality server). Custom tilesets aren't much of a deterent for a theif.

So to sum this up, ALT+5 is a bad idea.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by pacMASTA

Ya.. But only at certain people if i may
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Too bad these forums are private property, eh?

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Rick

Too bad these forums are private property, eh?

you're my private property

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