Should Aprippers Be Changed?. Stefan, read.

[Stone_Tower]

The morale is dodge the small spread of appripers and you'll be fine. Just because that class is fast, doesnt mean apprippers are good. They are a good pking weapon, but only if your fighting in a small area. If you fight in a large area like deathmatch for instence, well then appripers are preety useless.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Stone_Tower

The morale is dodge the small spread of appripers and you'll be fine. Just because that class is fast, doesnt mean apprippers are good. They are a good pking weapon, but only if your fighting in a small area. If you fight in a large area like deathmatch for instence, well then appripers are preety useless.

Not quite, it has superior range to appirces and such.

[Stone_Tower]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Not quite, it has superior range to appirces and such.

It has a smaller range though, the spread is drastically sad, therefor making it basically useless against weapons like appirces in Deathmatch.

[Zulu15]

When wielding Apps you can easily keep shooting 1-3 cm's higher than your target and still hit, since the Rippers have such low variance, and only shoot two bullets, you can dodge it while still dealing damage to your opponent, unlike Apps, which you have to take a very lucky shot against without getting hit, due to the literal -wall- of bullets it shoots.

[someonesomewhere]

lolol

Everytime I spar against someone who uses rippers, and I use BPs, I win. Just avoid the pathetic spread and shoot around the bullets. I'll admit, 20 damage is a little much, but still. The speed is ok, just learn to anticipate the spread and stay out of it. Not that hard.

(Also, a rifle is probably better suited to killing someone using rippers, because of superior speed)

Now, A full shot with appirces does 36 damage. A full shot with Aprippers does 40.

Let's do the math. On average, with rippers, it takes 3 fullshots for me to kill a trial outside of spar, because they heal that 1 hp before I get the second shot in unless I hit them twice in a row. It takes 5 for me to kill a p2p, same reasoning. On average, with apprices, I don't kill them in as few shots, but I take less damage because I have more angle variance, and, therefore, more chances to shoot (and hit).

If you fight a ranged battle with someone using rippers you will probably win, unless you suck at ranged fighting or your opponent is good. Close ranged, it's the opposite, because that's where superior fire speed comes into play. Rifle freeze people at close range, rippers just dominate.

K. It's my opinion, I think I have everything correct.

[MisterMastermind]

I'm pretty sure rippers have the same spread as appirces, if not more. They deal more damage, and shoot twice as fast.

[Stone_Tower]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

I'm pretty sure rippers have the same spread as appirces, if not more. They deal more damage, and shoot twice as fast.

Appripers: Shoots a total of 2 bullets.
Appirces: Shoots a total of 4 bulelts.

Am I correct?

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Stone_Tower

Appripers: Shoots a total of 2 bullets.
Appirces: Shoots a total of 4 bulelts.

Am I correct?

Appirces Variance: 25 Degrees
Apripper Variance: 20 Degrees

[SayianOozaru]

Appirces Damage: 9 per bullet
Apripper Damage: 20 per bullet

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by SayianOozaru

Appirces Damage: 9 per bullet
Apripper Damage: 20 per bullet

Originally Posted by Stone_Tower

Appripers: Shoots a total of 2 bullets.
Appirces: Shoots a total of 4 bulelts.

So appirces in total do 36.
And aprippers in total do 40.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Appirces Variance: 25 Degrees
Apripper Variance: 20 Degrees

That variance doesn't do it justice. The actual bullet spread you SEE says much more. Aprippers almost go straight. Appirces create a shield of bullets.

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by Gerami

And how is this relevent? Racism is regarded as negative, how is aprippers with 20 damage as negative as racism? You're comparing someone tripping their brother to hitler.

-_-... Hense my white text lol. All I'm saying, is that just because something isn't mentioned for a month, and is then brought up, still doesn't mean its right.

Originally Posted by Gerami

Way to ignore the fact that appirces fire 4 bullets at a time with very range of damage. Why to also ignore the fact that it's not only easier to hit someone with it assuming they stand still, but harder to dodge if you're the one trying to dodge it.

Now you see, I can aim better with ApRippers then I can Appirces. I think that the two close shots is much easier to use then Appirces 4 wide shots, as generally they go through people. But not everyone sees that the same way as I do. So from my perspective, thats another way that ApRippers are better. ApRippers a perfect 3 over Appirces. Better strength, accuracy, and speed.

SO?

You missed my point I think... He said you suck if you can't beat a ApRipper vs Event Weapon. So theres nothing wrong with losing to a ApRipper.

[Crono]

Now you see, I can aim better with ApRippers then I can Appirces. I think that the two close shots is much easier to use then Appirces 4 wide shots, as generally they go through people. But not everyone sees that the same way as I do. So from my perspective, thats another way that ApRippers are better. ApRippers a perfect 3 over Appirces. Better strength, accuracy, and speed.

Try saying that in a far range battle...

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Try saying that in a far range battle...

Ok...
In a long range battle I like ApRippers. I don't fight long range, ApRipper or Appirces can't reach to long, I get close...

[someonesomewhere]

Originally Posted by jkool666

Ok...
In a long range battle I like ApRippers. I don't fight long range, ApRipper or Appirces can't reach to long, I get close...

For me, Close range= Rippers, Long range = appirces. Though I try not to use either very often. And yeah, I like to fight long range, not close range.