Atrius is BACK!!!

[XxJiggaxX]

Wtf is going on;o

[Matt]

Originally Posted by KuJi

Wwwwwwwwwtf? Who is working on Graal X? lol

Sorry, i meant Trinity.

[XxJiggaxX]

As you all know if your not stupid whats going on with the server now

[bgumeny]

Originally Posted by Rapidwolve

ok theres one, anyone else?

I like warp.

Some things I don't particularly like are:

• You
• Mystic
• You/Jigga's Server Idea

You may now proceed to flame me or state that my opinion does not matter because "I am a newb", but it will only succeed in making you look stupider than you already do.

[killerogue]

An intelligent statement sir with which all I agree except I do not hate rapidwolve just a bit irritated he ditched us for Jigga's peace of stuff.

[XxJiggaxX]

Stan my server is better then your flinstone idea.

[bgumeny]

Originally Posted by Rapidwolve

but you are on warps ****

Actually, I have spoken all of 1 sentence to warp in the past 2 years. However I did do some work with him several years ago on a developing server, and I respect him a lot more than I respect you and your worthless antics. But perhaps we should get back on topic and talk about Jigga's server, rather than argue over trivial matters. If you would like to continue discussing your opinions about me being on Warp's **** you can PM me, I'd also love to meet you face-to-face and perhaps we could settle it that way.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by XxJiggaxX

Stan my server is better then your flinstone idea.

It's not a Flintstone idea. That made you sound extremely idiotic because to make your servre you leeched off an idea made by someone else. I did a server completely off a design I was secretly working and Sam mentioned outloud. And for something that wasn't started before the server was bought we're doing pretty well for ourselves. Pwnt please? Your server will fail because of you.

[XxJiggaxX]

Actually, my server isn't failing.

[killerogue]

I didn't say it's failing. I'm saying it will probably fail because of you.

[bgumeny]

Originally Posted by killerogue

I didn't say it's failing. I'm saying it will probably fail because of you.

Most likely this server will fail because it's content breaks about 2392039 rules.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by bgumeny

Most likely this server will fail because it's content breaks about 2392039 rules.

An intelligent observation sir.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by bgumeny

I like warp.

Some things I don't particularly like are:

• You
• Mystic
• You/Jigga's Server Idea

You may now proceed to flame me or state that my opinion does not matter because "I am a newb", but it will only succeed in making you look stupider than you already do.

Who are you. And please work on your grammar, we are not things. Get the **** off his balls man, at least hes trying. Go try to make your own server. Thats what irritates me about you. And seeing as this is the first post i ever can remember of yours.

[bgumeny]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Who are you. And please work on your grammar, we are not things. Get the **** off his balls man, at least hes trying. Go try to make your own server. Thats what irritates me about you. And seeing as this is the first post i ever can remember of yours.

I am a player who has been a member of the Graal community since 2001. I don't really see any terrible issues with my grammer. I am on no one's balls, if you'd care to refer to a previous post of mine in this thread, and I fully intend on trying to make my own server and I will welcome any and all criticism you have to offer about it.

P.S. You are commenting on my grammar and yet half of your post is fragmented sentences...wtf?

Edit: I did find one small error in my list...

[bgumeny]

Originally Posted by Rapidwolve

3 rules

learn to count

I have 2 words for you:

Exaggeration
Sarcasm

Would you care for some definitions?

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by bgumeny

I am a player who has been a member of the Graal community since 2001. I don't really see any terrible issues with my grammer. I am on no one's balls, if you'd care to refer to a previous post of mine in this thread, and I fully intend on trying to make my own server and I will welcome any and all criticism you have to offer about it.

P.S. You are commenting on my grammar and yet half of your post is fragmented sentences...wtf?

Yeah but i know how to use nouns.

[KuJi]

Originally Posted by bgumeny

I like warp.

Some things I don't particularly like are:

• You
• Mystic
• You/Jigga's Server Idea

You may now proceed to flame me or state that my opinion does not matter because "I am a newb", but it will only succeed in making you look stupider than you already do.

You really joined in 2001 (in the entire game - or just getting gold?)

What was your old account then :o?

Btw.. you stole my enemies ;(.. Thief

[bgumeny]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Yeah but i know how to use nouns.

Perhaps I should change that list to Rapid's and Mytic's attitudes and hostility towards other players. Would that be a more proper use of nouns for you?

[MysticX2X]

Whos the others im arguing with now rather than warp and kuji? You dont count. Wheres darlene deleteing 2 pages of posts

[Sam]

Flaming, off topic and if it doesn't stop right now, it'll be closed!

[Rapidwolve]

Trinity? Nice server, I like leh idear.

[bgumeny]

Originally Posted by XxJiggaxX

Alright my last hope at a server idea
-Real Life simulation
---Respect (EXP) & Reputation (Level)---
--Similar to EXP and Level system--
(Trash) -- Just started server.
(Young'n) -- New. getting spit on.
(Follower) -- Unrespected.
(Hoodrat) -- Unrespected. has a decent reputation.
(Street Cat) -- Known on the streets.
(Drug Dealer) -- Respected, Able to sell drugs.
(Gangsta) -- Respected. Can race cars, able to use prostitutes
(Druglord) -- Well-Known. New drugs available to sell
(King) -- Listened to.

Some of these ranks seem somewhat demeaning, and don't really seem like they would be encouraging for a player. Also, how long would it take for a player to reach the status of "King", with this system it looks as if after enough time everyone will be a King which could potentially ruin the realism element. Perhaps consider having player's gain respect only by completing certain quests that are available for a short time, or from other players giving them a respect+. Then you could have a separate leveling system that utilizes things such as strength, speed, and endurance that a player could boost by hard work. With this sort of system, you could have a cunning player who isn't very hard running the streets, with several much stronger players working under him/her as protection.

---Street Gangs---

-Bloods
-Latin Kings
-Asian Knights
-Nazi LowRiders

This idea seems fine with me, except for the whole Nazi part. While free speech is good and the Nazis were supposedly just a political party, they are pretty brutal racists and aren't setting a very good example for a game with many young teenagers in its playerbase. Perhaps allowing the leaders of gangs to come up with their own names would be a better idea.

---Cliques---

Players will be able to make small cliques of 12

similar to era's party system but with limits.


---Weapons & HP---
Real price weapons unlike other modern servers, and no access to army guns =\

- Regular Glock .45 = $450

in other words, same price irl as in server, it is so much money because we will also have a real Health System, the GFX shows your heart rate, and if your lucky you can get shot up to 9 times without dying.

These are both very good ideas that you should definetly expand on/implement.

---Jobs---

-Drug Dealing
-Street Racing

(only job so far)

I don't think street racing particularly qualifies as a "job", but certainly players could do it to make money. Some suggestions off the top of my head for jobs are:

• Driver: Drivers deliver packages, mail, or any other goods for businesses/gangs to various buildings and areas throughout the server.
• Phone Technician: Phone Technicians would be repsonsible for fixing the payphone and cell phone systems that you mentioned later in the post.
• Merchant/Entrepeneur: Hard-working individuals can start their own businesses, such as retail (finished goods), raw materials, or even possibly real estate (players could buy/sell plots of land or buildings predetermined by the staff)

---Communication---

Playerlist will be DISABLED. Players must use a payphone or purchase a cell phone, must have a bank account for cell phone. If player does not pay $.30 day charge for cell phone their cell phone plan will be cancelled.

While I can forsee this as potentially becoming a nuisance to some players, It is an interesting idea and it is entirely your decision.

---Prostitution---

Player can pickup prostitutes for HP Boost. Risk 20 min jail time.

I believe someone has already mentioned that this is illegal.

---Jailing---

By doing illegal activities players may face jail time, not the jail staff use to punish hackers and such, jail that players will go to for getting caught smoking, selling, prostitution, and such. Players can face up to 1 hour in jail. Player must be in jail for timer to lower.

If player is in a jail they lose respect for every minute they are in, if they are drug dealer or above, they can lose contacts that want to purchase drugs and lose serious respect for that, or miss their street race. (Also if player is offline)

This is an interesting idea, but you would definetly have to be careful with it as it could easily lead to corruption/favoritism.

---Weather---

Undecided.

---Seasons---
Seasons will go by real world seasons. For example, if it is Winter irl it is Winter in the game.

The seasons are different all over the world. When it is winter in North America, it is summer in Australia. You would have to pick a region of the world that your server will mirror for this one.

In conclusion if you make sure that your server is up to GraalOnline's legal standards, I think you could definetly be on to something. Whether you take these suggestions or not is entirely up to you, I just figured I'd add my two cents.

P.S. Sorry for the long post

[bgumeny]

I am aware of the theme of the server, all I was saying as that the theme could be portrayed without the use of such negatively named ranks. The only rank that I particularly disagreed with was "Trash", why not just go with Pickpocket, Thug, or something else basic that still fits your theme?

Also, the theme really has nothing to do with street racing being a job. Especially if your server takes place in North America, where street racing is illegal. I wasn't implying that it should be removed, I was merely stating that it was not technically a job, as no one is employing you. If they were sanctioned drag races such as the NHRA, that would be a different story.

[Rapidwolve]

And on the gang parts you posted on earlier, those are all real life gangs x.x

[bgumeny]

Originally Posted by Rapidwolve

Omg are you serious? you need to get out more...thats what the fun of it is...

PS: that was not a flame

I get out plenty, thank you. Every night in fact. Street Racing = Illegal = Not a job was all I was saying. I never said it wasn't a good idea for the server, and I really hope I don't have to keep repeating myself on this issue.

Originally Posted by Rapidwolve

And on the gang parts you posted on earlier, those are all real life gangs x.x

I am aware of this, but perhaps a gang that wishes to emulate a group that was behind a massive genocide and the murder of 11 million+ people isn't a good idea? If you're going to use gangs, why not throw the Mafia in there as well. Also, I noticed you listed the bloods but not their rivals the Crips, an intense rivalry such as that one could help gameplay a bit.

Edit: There is an edit button you know, so that you don't have to double post like that. If its too confusing for you, you may find the following thread helpful:http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ht=edit+button

[Rapidwolve]

There are many latin, white, and black gangs. I only decided to put 1 for each.

Now im not saying only people of a certain race are in the gang but a majority of the gang is that race.

Also, I know what you mean by how it isn't a job, as in there is not a boss who employs them and they get a payroll. I'm using it in a diffrent meaning as in a way to make money.

Did I mention we will have voice over acting

[XxJiggaxX]

You Betcha

[XxJiggaxX]

Stay on subject

[XxJiggaxX]

Warp cant do anything anyways developing wise

[killerogue]

He can level. o.o

[XxJiggaxX]

Are sure its not the person he shares the account with?

[bgumeny]

This thread is completely worthless...I am hard pressed to find a reason why it is even still open. Hasn't rapid opened a new thread about the same server/idea, less the 8 pages of spam?

[killerogue]

Hm. :O I believe so. This is pointless. And BG log onto Stone Henge. Something sexy is there. :O

[MysticalDragon]

Originally Posted by bgumeny

Also, I noticed you listed the bloods but not their rivals the Crips, an intense rivalry such as that one could help gameplay a bit.

IN edition to that^
How can you have Latin Kings without there rival, LGD (Latin Gangster Decipals) also Known as Folk or G's.And last but not least what about La Familia who also rocks the 5 point star with the Bloods and Kings.

Its called the Peoples Nation!

and there rivals are the
Folks (LGD,Gs),Cripts and solids one, all rock the 3 and 6 points. Decipals have a 6 point star (Star of David) and the also have the pitch fork faceing up.Cripts rock the three points and uses there allies (Folk) 5 point star.

Some knowledge about the Latin Kings/Latin queens aka ALKQN =Almight Latin King Queen Nation (to contribute)
5 Point Star
Love,Honor,Obediance,Sacrifice,Righteousness

Almighty Prayer
Almighty Father kings of all Kings maker of the universe and foundation of life.Bring peace to our souls to those present, to those not present to the young and old.
As an almighty Latin King protect under the sun we bring our right fist (5) upon our hearts for strength,knowledge and understanding 360 degresee of strong king wisdom.
Illuminate our minds and our hearts, guide and protect all those holy Corona's,and the ALKN.
Let the menifestation of our departed brothers and sisters, kings and queens be the path to thee as it was in the begininning, King to the Black and Gold (colors).King Love Yesturday, Today tommorrow always and forever.
-Amor De Rey (Love for the Kings)-Spanish

Almighty Oath
I King _____________, am an almighty Latin King, 360 degresee strong and completely undestrucatable.I swear under the sun and my Crown (5 point) to be there for all my brothers and sisters kings and queens, threw all good and bad, threw thick and then not matering the circumstances nor differences that arise.
I understand that any direct order given by my regional superior shall be obey without any questions nor excuses.
I also understand (I forget this part bbut i will remember then edit or add.)
I fully understand that was not in any shape nor form obligated to be a ALKQN but by MY OWN personal choice
I shall remain a actice member of the Almighty Latin King Queen Nation till death do me or the Almighty Latin King Queen Nation apart.
-Amor De Rey

But yea, I think it can be succesful if you know what your talking about and how the gangs are.

[killerogue]

Erm, MD you know quite a bit about those gangs.

[Sum41Freeeeek]

How about we keep the wanabee gangsters off of graal.

[MysticalDragon]

Originally Posted by killerogue

Erm, MD you know quite a bit about those gangs.

Of course I do, Sincity(Lynn,Mass) isnt the most pleasant city.

Originally Posted by sum41freeeeek

How about we keep the wanabee gangsters off of graal.

"wannabes" are the people whom you are assumed to be.I've been playing graal for ages and I'am far from a "wannabe" so im not going anywhere.

[Skrobo2]

Originally Posted by XxJiggaxX

Alright my last hope at a server idea
-Real Life simulation
---Respect (EXP) & Reputation (Level)---
--Similar to EXP and Level system--
(Trash) -- Just started server.
(Young'n) -- New. getting spit on.
(Follower) -- Unrespected.
(Hoodrat) -- Unrespected. has a decent reputation.
(Street Cat) -- Known on the streets.
(Drug Dealer) -- Respected, Able to sell drugs.
(Gangsta) -- Respected. Can race cars, able to use prostitutes
(Druglord) -- Well-Known. New drugs available to sell
(King) -- Listened to.

---Street Gangs---


-Bloods
-Latin Kings
-Asian Knights
-Nazi LowRiders

---Cliques---

Players will be able to make small cliques of 12

similar to era's party system but with limits.


---Weapons & HP---
Real price weapons unlike other modern servers, and no access to army guns =\

- Regular Glock .45 = $450

in other words, same price irl as in server, it is so much money because we will also have a real Health System, the GFX shows your heart rate, and if your lucky you can get shot up to 9 times without dying.


---Jobs---

-Drug Dealing
-Street Racing

(only job so far)

---Communication---

Playerlist will be DISABLED. Players must use a payphone or purchase a cell phone, must have a bank account for cell phone. If player does not pay $.30 day charge for cell phone their cell phone plan will be cancelled.

---Prostitution---

Player can pickup prostitutes for HP Boost. Risk 20 min jail time.

---Jailing---

By doing illegal activities players may face jail time, not the jail staff use to punish hackers and such, jail that players will go to for getting caught smoking, selling, prostitution, and such. Players can face up to 1 hour in jail. Player must be in jail for timer to lower.

If player is in a jail they lose respect for every minute they are in, if they are drug dealer or above, they can lose contacts that want to purchase drugs and lose serious respect for that, or miss their street race. (Also if player is offline)


---Weather---

Undecided.

---Seasons---
Seasons will go by real world seasons. For example, if it is Winter irl it is Winter in the game.

GTA rip off. Atrius wasn't that great when I helped out there. Let it die. Is Icarus still up? That server was hot, sucks that I ran out of gold and they fired me.

[XxJiggaxX]

I left Atrius alone now thats why I'm making this and were going to have Bloods aswell