Question out of curiosity...

Darlene159 · #1 06-20-2006, 05:40 PM

After playing and working for Graal for a long period of time, a lot of people have been really negative about me playing Graal because of my age, and the fact that I am a parent in real life. This has been going on since the beginning of my playing Graal, so it is not because of my being an admin on the forums, or being a Manager of a PW.

I am really curious as to why players feel this way, and if there are any other older adults that play that receive the same treatment.

I do realize that Graal is a game geared more towards younger teenagers, but does that mean older adults should not play?
What about video games that are geared more for the younger generation?

I have loved Graal from the very beginning for many reasons. One being the fact that it had a Zelda feel to it, and I am an avid Zelda fan, always have been.
I also love the fact that I can meet and converse with people from all over the world which is very interesting to me.

I have tried other online games that seemed to have similar game play, but I did not like them. (Note: I mentioned no names, No discussing them please)

Please give me honest answers without being hateful. I would really like to know the reasons behind why players have a problem with older adults (or just me) playing.
I have my own theories, but I would rather not voice them, but would rather see if I am correct.

p2p_Sir_Link · #2 06-20-2006, 05:41 PM

I love the middle aged women on the game, ask Bell.

Curt1zzle · #3 06-20-2006, 05:44 PM

Anything out of the norm is always discriminated against.

If something is geared towards a certain age group, you're always going to raise an eyebrow when you're not in the majority.

Another reason, a bit more indepth and psychological, is because people look at you like a parent figure. This creates a conflinct because I've run into several younger kids on this game who have a horrible family life and no sense of love at home. They log on Graal to escape their parents, or family. By you moderating the forums and acting sort of like a mother, if you will, you're the exact thing they're running from.

You and younger kids both take a break from reality by playing Graal, however, you interfere with some of the younger player's escape.

At least that's how I see it...

There goes my daily post!

Darlene159 · #4 06-20-2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Curt1zzle

Anything out of the norm is always discriminated against.

If something is geared towards a certain age group, you're always going to raise an eyebrow when you're not in the majority.

Another reason, a bit more indepth and psychological, is because people look at you like a parent figure. This creates a conflinct because I've run into several younger kids on this game who have a horrible family life and no sense of love at home. They log on Graal to escape their parents, or family. By you moderating the forums and acting sort of like a mother, if you will, you're the exact thing they're running from.

You and younger kids both take a break from reality by playing Graal, however, you interfere with some of the younger player's escape.

At least that's how I see it...

There goes my daily post!

Very interesting...

Crono · #5 06-20-2006, 05:55 PM

We stop playing because we grow old

We don't grow old because we stop playing

Chris · #6 06-20-2006, 05:56 PM

They were abused as young children.

Darlene159 · #7 06-20-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

We stop playing because we grow old

We don't grow old because we stop playing

That explains nothing.

-Ching · #8 06-20-2006, 06:07 PM

I'd think I'd disown my parents if I even saw them spending more than 2hours on the internet, or if I caught them playing Graal. I wouldnt even admit to my IRL friends that I play Graal or even talk to other males online.
Though I dont judge middle-aged people playing Graal, but I certainly wouldnt want my mum or dad coming online and playing games or even talking to online people. Though I think the internet is viewed differently in England than it is in America.

Crono · #9 06-20-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

That explains nothing.

The older you get while spending lots of time playing games/interent games, the sadder it gets. The way society works these days.

nikomi946 · #10 06-20-2006, 06:11 PM

Naturally I get much of the same response as you but if you really think about it, its only a few, not the majority. My personal opinion as to why those that attack do it is because they want to see if they can get you angry. It usually annoys the hell out of them when it doesn't work. Most of the more mature group of graalians don't really care about age. In fact they don't dare because I bet many of them will still be around themselves from time to time when they catch up to you in age. At least you don't try to hide it, you're open and honest about the fact you aren't still a kid. Just roll with it and have fun, its a game!

As far as many of the other games go, I don't play them because I don't play well with kids my own age. They tend to annoy the crap out of me most the time.

Darlene159 · #11 06-20-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ching

I'd think I'd disown my parents if I even saw them spending more than 2hours on the internet, or if I caught them playing Graal. I wouldnt even admit to my IRL friends that I play Graal or even talk to other males online.
Though I dont judge middle-aged people playing Graal, but I certainly wouldnt want my mum or dad coming online and playing games or even talking to online people. Though I think the internet is viewed differently in England than it is in America.

Why would you disown your parents for those things?

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Originally Posted by Gerami

The older you get while spending lots of time playing games/interent games, the sadder it gets. The way society works these days.

I do not understand why it is sad...

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Originally Posted by nikomi946

Naturally I get much of the same response as you but if you really think about it, its only a few, not the majority. My personal opinion as to why those that attack do it is because they want to see if they can get you angry. It usually annoys the hell out of them when it doesn't work. Most of the more mature group of graalians don't really care about age. In fact they don't dare because I bet many of them will still be around themselves from time to time when they catch up to you in age. At least you don't try to hide it, you're open and honest about the fact you aren't still a kid. Just roll with it and have fun, its a game!

As far as many of the other games go, I don't play them because I don't play well with kids my own age. They tend to annoy the crap out of me most the time.

Actually, for me, it has been more than just a few over the years, but you are right when you say it is not the majority.
I think there is more to it though then them just trying to make me angry for most. There is a reason.
I do have fun regardless of what people say. As I said, I am just curious as to the reasons behind it.

Bl0nkt · #12 06-20-2006, 06:22 PM

I doubt your age is the #1 reason behind your discrimination. It's merely a tool to use against you in times of argument and frustration toward you.

Can you guess WHY most people don't like you? ;o

On the other hand, Iluvulongtime.

Googi · #13 06-20-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

After playing and working for Graal for a long period of time, a lot of people have been really negative about me playing Graal because of my age, and the fact that I am a parent in real life.

Most who are doing it likely don't care about your age, but rather they dislike you and attack you using any means they see available.

You should redirect such people towards me and I can show them that you do plenty of legitimately criticizable things and they don't have to rely on criticizing your age.

Crono · #14 06-20-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi

You should redirect such people towards me and I can show them that you do plenty of legitimately criticizable things and they don't have to rely on criticizing your age.

Ohnoes it's Googi, run before he gets you! His confusing tactics will melt you :'[[[[[[[[[[[[

Darlene159 · #15 06-20-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt

I doubt your age is the #1 reason behind your discrimination. It's merely a tool to use against you in times of argument and frustration toward you.

Can you guess WHY most people don't like you? ;o

On the other hand, Iluvulongtime.

Do tell. Keep in mind that this has been going on since the very beginning of my playing. It was worse when I first started playing, so you can't use something recent as an excuse.

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Originally Posted by Googi

You should redirect such people towards me and I can show them that you do plenty of legitimately criticizable things and they don't have to rely on criticizing your age.

Read above^

ApothiX · #16 06-20-2006, 07:11 PM

Loelz women on the internetz?! Go back to housework and making me sandwiches!

xXziroXx · #17 06-20-2006, 07:26 PM

Im 18, soon to be 19, and players complain on that *low* age. I dont see why you shouldnt be able to play an online game, or any game, the second you turn a certain age.

Im pretty sure that I will keep playing games for a long time, since I enjoy it. And aslong as you have a life on *the outside* (that sounds wrong, I know) - WHY CARE? For crying out loud, its just a way to have fun.

Darlene159 · #18 06-20-2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

Loelz women on the internetz?! Go back to housework and making me sandwiches!

I am being serious. I hope you don't really believe that.

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

And aslong as you have a life on *the outside* (that sounds wrong, I know) - WHY CARE? For crying out loud, its just a way to have fun.

I have a full life in real life. Graal is not my life, but my hobby.

ApothiX · #19 06-20-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I am being serious. I hope you don't really believe that.

You never know. There are a lot of people from the south who play Graal!

I didn't know you 'back in the day', but from what I've heard from people recently, their dislike for you stems from your overmoderating of the forums and other powertrip things you like to do.

Darlene159 · #20 06-20-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

but from what I've heard from people recently, their dislike for you stems from your overmoderating of the forums and other powertrip things you like to do.

This thread has nothing to do with the forums. It is not a recent thing.

BruceLee2000 · #21 06-20-2006, 07:48 PM

bc you bashed classic you ancient woman!@!@

Darlene159 · #22 06-20-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceLee2000

bc you bashed classic you ancient woman!@!@

I love Classic

link master111 · #23 06-20-2006, 07:54 PM

I think there is nothing wrong with older people playing Graal.
Stefan is 31 and he continues to make Graal to what we know of it today.

People can like graal till they die and that will not shock me.
As long as you like playing Graal then play it.

Lee

ApothiX · #24 06-20-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

This thread has nothing to do with the forums. It is not a recent thing.

It doesn't matter if it's been going on since the dinosaurs were around. I simply stated a reason why people dislike you. I highly doubt anyone dislikes you based on the soul fact that you are a little older than them.

If you wanted to know why they disliked you in the past, you should have posted in the past.

ApothiX · #25 06-20-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by link master111

I think there is nothing wrong with older people playing Graal.
Stefan is 31 and he continues to make Graal to what we know of it today.

People can like graal till they die and that will not shock me.
As long as you like playing Graal then play it.

Lee

Stefan doesn't play graal, he made it. There's a little bit of a difference there.
Do you think all of the video games you play are made by 14 year old kids?

link master111 · #26 06-20-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

Stefan doesn't play graal, he made it. There's a little bit of a difference there.
Do you think all of the video games you play are made by 14 year old kids?

I said he makes it.

I know that many games were not made by 14 year olds.

BeZeRkEr · #27 06-20-2006, 08:01 PM

blanket of fearrrrr

Darlene159 · #28 06-20-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

If you wanted to know why they disliked you in the past, you should have posted in the past.

There, I fixed my original post to clarify. It is not a "past" thing. It is an ongoing thing that has been going on since the beginning. I believe I did post that in one of my posts, but I added it to my original post.

Draenin · #29 06-20-2006, 09:08 PM

Though I might poke fun and all, I don't really mean any harm. You're not too bad, though we're bound to cross paths in the future, I'm sure. And just so you know, I'm sorry in advance for all of it. :]

On an aside, convince Unix to allow external linking outside the lounge again plx plx.

ApothiX · #30 06-20-2006, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

There, I fixed my original post to clarify. It is not a "past" thing. It is an ongoing thing that has been going on since the beginning. I believe I did post that in one of my posts, but I added it to my original post.

Then don't tell me the forums have no relevance to it.

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Originally Posted by link master111

I said he makes it.

I know that many games were not made by 14 year olds.

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Originally Posted by link master111

I think there is nothing wrong with older people playing Graal.
Stefan is 31 and he continues to make Graal to what we know of it today.

People can like graal till they die and that will not shock me.
As long as you like playing Graal then play it.

Lee

Then what relevance does your statement about Stefan have?

link master111 · #31 06-20-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

Then don't tell me the forums have no relevance to it.

Then what relevance does your statement about Stefan have?

I said he made Graal.

ApothiX · #32 06-20-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by link master111

I said he made Graal.

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rel·e·vance Audio pronunciation of "relevance" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rl-vns)
n.

1. Pertinence to the matter at hand.

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contiga · #33 06-20-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

I didn't know you 'back in the day', but from what I've heard from people recently, their dislike for you stems from your overmoderating of the forums and other powertrip things you like to do.

I think it's good that there's a parent that moderates forums, they know what's good for their children to read, or not.. and are mostly serious people that know what's thread-related or stays inside the rules.

Also, some kids maybe think at "ewwy" things when they hear parents or just adults are playing (age 30+ or so).. but as long as they have fun playing, and do good things to Graal (eg. be nice to players, and run cool servers), I don't see any weird things..

I actually have a good friend on Graal Kingdoms, that is age 40 (or 41, w/e).. and we always have fun, while I'm just 16. It's good to talk to such persons with problems or things, they always understand you

ApothiX · #34 06-20-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by contiga

I think it's good that there's a parent that moderates forums, they know what's good for their children to read, or not.. and are mostly serious people that know what's thread-related or stays inside the rules.

An overprotective parent does not make a good mod.

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Originally Posted by contiga

I actually have a good friend on Graal Kingdoms, that is age 40 (or 41, w/e).. and we always have fun, while I'm just 16. It's good to talk to such persons with problems or things, they always understand you

Nayoko? Their whole family plays (or used to, they all seem to have quit except Misty)

contiga · #35 06-20-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

An overprotective parent does not make a good mod.

Nayoko? Their whole family plays (or used to, they all seem to have quit except Misty)

Not just an overprotective parent.. Darlene is always polite to everyone, and she follows the rules, and some how protects us from evil posters, yes.

And no, not Nayoko

excaliber7388 · #36 06-20-2006, 10:36 PM

You're going against the norm, and somehow it's bad.
I think it's honorable.

ApothiX · #37 06-20-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by contiga

Not just an overprotective parent.. Darlene is always polite to everyone, and she follows the rules, and some how protects us from evil posters, yes.

And in the process protects us from posters who make a valid point and are not posting anything against the rules.

Draenin · #38 06-20-2006, 11:22 PM

For all the times Moonie and I have clashed, I probably should dislike her by now, but that's not the case because at least I know that she usually handles stuff appropriately. Save for maybe Dal Yeoshin.

Googi · #39 06-21-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Do tell. Keep in mind that this has been going on since the very beginning of my playing. It was worse when I first started playing, so you can't use something recent as an excuse.

Obviously it's impossible for us to get examples from when you first started playing seeing as we didn't know you back then.

ApothiX · #40 06-21-2006, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

Save for maybe Dal Yeoshin.

Haha. I was going to say something about that, but thought otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Googi

Obviously it's impossible for us to get examples from when you first started playing seeing as we didn't know you back then.

Impossible for Googi to get examples?! Impossible!