Spellcasting improvements - Page 6

MasterNuke · #76 02-05-2006, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cutelilmurderer

True enough, I still like the new system much much better. I really liked curving shots around objects on the ground and smashing it into an enemy from the side. Made for some really cool tactics in the arena. Of course after trying in the arena I noticed that a player who sees himself/herself losing will automatically spam some kind of "cover-the-whole-area-with-fire" tactic and hope I'm running around on fire. Not that this isn't the way everyone on Kingdoms spars anyway. It was cool to finally have a magical advantage without the other player SEEING what spell i'm dragging out to cast on him.

It doesn't keep you guessing, and that is what I loved about it. Manually placing the runes in the ground and inspiring fear into your opponent when he steps on an antimagic rune, not a bad thing. I remember thinking, "Oh ok I see he is using cause typhoid so I'd better prepare my _____."

The new way it's like, "Hey this guy just poisoned me with something, let's see if I am fast enough to get him back with something he won't expect like _____."

One match I decided to cast Holy Orb rather than cast Holy wrath to trick my opponent into fearfully run over a Rune of Death, which if you see me physically drag it out, you will watch your step in that area. The system made it feel more like a real-time targeting reticle as I mentioned before, and was great for newer players who hadn't adapted the old system yet anyways.

I guess my point is it was a very cool and creative addition to what was a much needed change in the dragging system. I hope all of the improvements are that astounding.

All your situations assumed that your spells actually did something to your opponent, your opponent didn't know how to combat magic, and your opponent was under level 54.

My point was that this was an addition targeted to the sitting duck aspect of spell casters and this improvement was not thought through completely.

Stevsen · #77 02-05-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Waltz5

Yes let's not try to improve on things and get player opinions.

And lets not read what others post

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I said it was stupid that everyone wanted it to be turned off instead of leaving it on. You might not even have found all flaws in it, but that doesn't matter cause you cant "own" people.

Draenin · #78 02-05-2006, 10:44 AM

You're putting the issue into a very primitive light, Stevsen. It is not a matter only concerning higher-end folks. It affects newer people as well.

Raeiphon · #79 02-05-2006, 11:30 AM

Or making it an ability.

Focused Casting, when enabled, lasts about 10 minutes, and allows you to aim with spells by using the mouse. A simple solution.

Stevsen · #80 02-05-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

You're putting the issue into a very primitive light, Stevsen. It is not a matter only concerning higher-end folks. It affects newer people as well.

Yes, but did you see any new folks complaining?

CidNight1142 · #81 02-05-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevsen

Yes, but did you see any new folks complaining?

Not many new folks are avid forum users. Just saying.

Stevsen · #82 02-05-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CidNight1142

Not many new folks are avid forum users. Just saying.

No but im sure if something was really bothering them, they would try and find a way to tell someone with power. I did. When i was new i did all i could to get into the community as GK lacks newbie help so much.

Draenin · #83 02-05-2006, 01:11 PM

But most of them don't.

Stevsen · #84 02-05-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

But most of them don't.

And the song remains the same. Have your leet owning the way you want, in the end you only get what you deserve.

Draenin · #85 02-05-2006, 02:45 PM

I am level 8 magic, level 1 phys, level 1 wis, level 9 ment, and level 39 agility. Don't make the assumption that people are complaining about this because they can't be 'leet.'
At least we are working towards optimized gameplay. If we fix it now, there'll be less problems with the mechanics in the future.

Stevsen · #86 02-05-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

I am level 8 magic, level 1 phys, level 1 wis, level 9 ment, and level 39 agility. Don't make the assumption that people are complaining about this because they can't be 'leet.'
At least we are working towards optimized gameplay. If we fix it now, there'll be less problems with the mechanics in the future.

You aren't getting my point, i dont mind player suggestions im saying that there was no reason to turn off the system.

Draenin · #87 02-05-2006, 02:53 PM

Have you not been reading this thread? Have you not seen the numerous people including Ed, one of GK's most experienced mages saying this needs improvement? Give me a break, man.

Stevsen · #88 02-05-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

Have you not been reading this thread? Have you not seen the numerous people including Ed, one of GK's most experienced mages saying this needs improvement? Give me a break, man.

Oh god. Read. I SAID DONT TURN OFF THE SYSTEM! That doesn't mean you cant improve it.

Valder · #89 02-05-2006, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevsen

Oh god. Read. I SAID DONT TURN OFF THE SYSTEM! That doesn't mean you cant improve it.

HEY GUY, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO LEARN TO READ!

The improvements were causing more problems than they were solving. Sure, some people thought it was decent, but others found it annoying. We asked Stefan to turn it off until it was improved and didn't cause problems for us. He has the Debug server to test it on more and now it's not affecting people's gameplay. And it's not only that people aren't able to fight normal players anymore, it's the fact that they can't even kill monsters anymore because when they cast the spell, the spell goes in a completely different direction because it's trying to hit the mouse cursor instead of going the direction the players are used to casting it in.

Stevsen · #90 02-05-2006, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Valder

HEY GUY, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO LEARN TO READ!

The improvements were causing more problems than they were solving. Sure, some people thought it was decent, but others found it annoying. We asked Stefan to turn it off until it was improved and didn't cause problems for us. He has the Debug server to test it on more and now it's not affecting people's gameplay. And it's not only that people aren't able to fight normal players anymore, it's the fact that they can't even kill monsters anymore because when they cast the spell, the spell goes in a completely different direction because it's trying to hit the mouse cursor instead of going the direction the players are used to casting it in.

What exactly does that have to do with learning to read?

And yeah, that seems fair. But lets put it like this, im a beta player, i like to test things.

This lead me to a little idea. Maybe Stefan could put up some sort of server everytime a new feature was added to see if people liked it, and if they did, he would shut down that server and add the new content to the actual GK. Or maybe this could be something VIPs had the opportunity to try.