Bravo: Ages of Ignis [Offical Thread] - Page 2

Eagle · #16 12-10-2005, 03:44 PM

If your referring to the ugly detail, I am fixing all of that.

MKxTortoise · #17 12-12-2005, 01:45 AM

Yakuna and Wilddude should be managers

on a more serious note include Fei's house again I have fond memories of that place!

Kronan · #18 12-12-2005, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MKxTortoise

Yakuna and Wilddude should be managers

on a more serious note include Fei's house again I have fond memories of that place!

Yakuna is a fool, he gave out the FTP password once back in the day. He offered it to get FTP passwords to other servers. And WildDude is cool, he is just in the navy now.

NeoJenova · #19 12-12-2005, 01:59 PM

WildDude is in iraq right now.

E-mails to him are greatly appreciated by him and his sister, RoxyKitten.

Forum PM me for details.

haunter · #20 12-12-2005, 10:19 PM

Well... I was skeptical at first, but then I realised that it wouldn't be fair to judge unless I went to look around and see what they've been working on first... So I did. I logged on to look around, and I must say; I'm not skeptical anymore. In fact I'm quite positive, that once again, this is not Bravo Online. What gave it away you ask? Well for one thing, even after 5 or 10 minutes of running around the overworld I still couldn't figure out that I was actually in Bravo! It wasn't until a staff member logged on and told me that I was standing in Coast Town that I realised that I was. I thought that I was in the "Ages of Ignis" part of the overworld (I'll get to that later).

My point here is that Bravo doesn't look much like Bravo. This isn't a good start. From what I've seen of Centra there are some very important elements in place, the entrance looked a bit wonky, but I'd have to see the original to refresh my memory. Chicken did go a bit overboard on the streams around the houses though.

As was previously mentioned, even aside from the fact that the layout looks nothing like the original, Coast Town isn't that pleasing to the eye. A lot of copy->paste detail, and physics defying houses; which is fine on some servers, but that's just not Bravo's way and it's things like this that will make this 'new bravo' have the old Bravo feel.

Right; so back to the 'Ages of Ingis' thing. What does this really mean? Will there be a second part to the playerworld that has the overworld from 'Ages of Ingis'? Or is this just Bravo's Age of Ingis (Which I'm told means fire?) Because that just doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure that there was fire on Bravo Online in the 3rd (which never made it far), 2nd, and probably 1st age. Now honestly this sounds like another one of these:

Player 1: I want to start my playerworld up again, but I need hosting.
Player 2: You can host on my server space. But you have to merge the name with mine so that I can call it my own too. Oh, and make me manager.
Player 1: k.

One more thing. You guys are rushing into things again. You got the idea to try and revive Bravo again, what... Two, Two and a half weeks ago? And you're already posting threads boasting about this new revival, and how it's actually going to work this time... and how levels are sixty percent done?! No, no they're not. There are tonnes of towns on Bravo, in fact so many that I can't remeber them all: Coast, Centra, Scrawby, Bethla, Bou... I know I'm forgetting atleast two or three. Maybe you should take your time instead of trying to rush to get it out there. I'd much rather wait a year for a good Bravo remake, than have this one shutdown three days from now.

Now there was another problem that I had with the new Bravo when I checked it out the other day, but I believe that was just a misunderstanding and is fixed now. I won't go into details anyway.

That's all i have to say for now. Sorry, I wish I could give all praise, but that's what I honestly think.

Eagle · #21 12-13-2005, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by haunter

Well... I was skeptical at first, but then I realised that it wouldn't be fair to judge unless I went to look around and see what they've been working on first... So I did. I logged on to look around, and I must say; I'm not skeptical anymore. In fact I'm quite positive, that once again, this is not Bravo Online. What gave it away you ask? Well for one thing, even after 5 or 10 minutes of running around the overworld I still couldn't figure out that I was actually in Bravo! It wasn't until a staff member logged on and told me that I was standing in Coast Town that I realised that I was. I thought that I was in the "Ages of Ignis" part of the overworld (I'll get to that later).

I will take fault for naming it 'New Coast Town'. We have added a rather big island on the overworld and trying to remake more of old Bravo there. We had different names for the towns on that part of the overworld, and I didn't think that the new names fit Bravo very well, so I susgested the name change, and Kronan agreed.

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Originally Posted by haunter

My point here is that Bravo doesn't look much like Bravo. This isn't a good start. From what I've seen of Centra there are some very important elements in place, the entrance looked a bit wonky, but I'd have to see the original to refresh my memory. Chicken did go a bit overboard on the streams around the houses though.

What do you exactly mean by elements? I copied and pasted the levels on the gmap exactly how they were for Chicken to fix them up.

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Originally Posted by haunter

As was previously mentioned, even aside from the fact that the layout looks nothing like the original, Coast Town isn't that pleasing to the eye. A lot of copy->paste detail, and physics defying houses; which is fine on some servers, but that's just not Bravo's way and it's things like this that will make this 'new bravo' have the old Bravo feel.

I cannot speak for Kronan, as he made the houses in that town, but I can answer for some of the detailing. I did not do all the detailing in that town, but for the detail I did do, I can assure you that I didn't copy and paste it.

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Originally Posted by haunter

Player 1: I want to start my playerworld up again, but I need hosting.
Player 2: You can host on my server space. But you have to merge the name with mine so that I can call it my own too. Oh, and make me manager.
Player 1: k.

So Brandon is Player 1, and Kronan is player 2? I wasn't involved in the merge process, but i'm sure that wasn't how it happened.

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Originally Posted by haunted

One more thing. You guys are rushing into things again. You got the idea to try and revive Bravo again, what... Two, Two and a half weeks ago? And you're already posting threads boasting about this new revival, and how it's actually going to work this time... and how levels are sixty percent done?! No, no they're not. There are tonnes of towns on Bravo, in fact so many that I can't remeber them all: Coast, Centra, Scrawby, Bethla, Bou... I know I'm forgetting atleast two or three. Maybe you should take your time instead of trying to rush to get it out there. I'd much rather wait a year for a good Bravo remake, than have this one shutdown three days from now.

About the 60 percent, Kronan told that before we added on the large island to the overworld. That island as I mentioned, will store more Bravo Towns. Who says we are rushing? Ever think the post could be so people are aware that Bravo is attempting a revision again?

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Originally Posted by haunter

That's all i have to say for now. Sorry, I wish I could give all praise, but that's what I honestly think.

I respect your opinion. Maybe I cleared up something?

Kronan · #22 12-13-2005, 04:18 AM

Before this project had begun, Brandon was working for me on my server "Ignis Divine." First we talked about this first. We have planned out the entire theme for the Ignis part, it's mainly going to be the theme of the new weapons used on the server. As for the way the houses look, most of them that are in "New Coast" were from Ignis Divine. New Coast actually wasn't made for bravo at first, it was completed prior to the merging of our project. Shadowless, I appreciate your opinions on the entire issue, it will help to make our project better.

We are not rushing in to things. Only reason why this section has been released so quickly is because of like I said, the town was made for Ignis and it was done prior to the merging with Bravo.

Thrashsoul3 · #23 12-13-2005, 10:43 PM

Any plans for anything to do in "Bravo Ages of Ignis" or is it just an art gallery?

Kronan · #24 12-13-2005, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

Any plans for anything to do in "Bravo Ages of Ignis" or is it just an art gallery?

I'll be releasing that information shortly.

Brandon · #25 12-14-2005, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by haunter

Well... I was skeptical at first, but then I realised that it wouldn't be fair to judge unless I went to look around and see what they've been working on first... So I did. I logged on to look around, and I must say; I'm not skeptical anymore. In fact I'm quite positive, that once again, this is not Bravo Online. What gave it away you ask? Well for one thing, even after 5 or 10 minutes of running around the overworld I still couldn't figure out that I was actually in Bravo! It wasn't until a staff member logged on and told me that I was standing in Coast Town that I realised that I was. I thought that I was in the "Ages of Ignis" part of the overworld (I'll get to that later).

My point here is that Bravo doesn't look much like Bravo. This isn't a good start. From what I've seen of Centra there are some very important elements in place, the entrance looked a bit wonky, but I'd have to see the original to refresh my memory. Chicken did go a bit overboard on the streams around the houses though.

As was previously mentioned, even aside from the fact that the layout looks nothing like the original, Coast Town isn't that pleasing to the eye. A lot of copy->paste detail, and physics defying houses; which is fine on some servers, but that's just not Bravo's way and it's things like this that will make this 'new bravo' have the old Bravo feel.

Right; so back to the 'Ages of Ingis' thing. What does this really mean? Will there be a second part to the playerworld that has the overworld from 'Ages of Ingis'? Or is this just Bravo's Age of Ingis (Which I'm told means fire?) Because that just doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure that there was fire on Bravo Online in the 3rd (which never made it far), 2nd, and probably 1st age. Now honestly this sounds like another one of these:

Player 1: I want to start my playerworld up again, but I need hosting.
Player 2: You can host on my server space. But you have to merge the name with mine so that I can call it my own too. Oh, and make me manager.
Player 1: k.

One more thing. You guys are rushing into things again. You got the idea to try and revive Bravo again, what... Two, Two and a half weeks ago? And you're already posting threads boasting about this new revival, and how it's actually going to work this time... and how levels are sixty percent done?! No, no they're not. There are tonnes of towns on Bravo, in fact so many that I can't remeber them all: Coast, Centra, Scrawby, Bethla, Bou... I know I'm forgetting atleast two or three. Maybe you should take your time instead of trying to rush to get it out there. I'd much rather wait a year for a good Bravo remake, than have this one shutdown three days from now.

Now there was another problem that I had with the new Bravo when I checked it out the other day, but I believe that was just a misunderstanding and is fixed now. I won't go into details anyway.

That's all i have to say for now. Sorry, I wish I could give all praise, but that's what I honestly think.

You're being overly critical of something that isn't even close to completion, here. You're basically setting us up to fail before we've even had a chance.
As far as your notion that this was a "player 1 wants to restart his project and asks player 2 for hosting", it is actually quite the opposite. I was getting ready to purchase hosting myself when Kronan proposed to me that we do what we did. The "Age of Ignis" part of it will work itself in quite nicely when we're finished. Obviously, the Bravo "island" is not going to be a carbon copy of what it used to be, because we're years and "graal-advances" ahead of what was available when Bravo was originally created. Give it some time, and please don't shoot us down when we're in the early stages of production.

EDIT: Whomever said that the levels are 60% complete was not correct, and I apologize for that.

EDIT #2: The towns I remember are: Coast, Centra, Scrawby, Bethla, Bou, Andray City, Wateria, <fire town I don't remember the name of>, and another town that was far to the right of coast. If I'm missing something, someone please let me know.