Dead? - Page 3

Googi · #81 11-28-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Taikun

if you can get me arguments against a reset i would like to hear them.

Because most problems on 2K2 can be solved by nerfing.

Taikun · #82 11-28-2005, 07:04 PM

but who will nerfe them? i doubt that staff will do it :/ look at the items. they're all overpowered.. ZH i didn't even know who had the brutals and where they got it from. i never bought 1 for usd

Sam · #83 11-28-2005, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Taikun

...but since that "creating brutal maps" time i don't see the point in paying lots for them if others get them for free and spread them out to their usd friends...

Interesting. I would like to know who is able to create maps except GK staff. Maybe you can explain that a bit better. If you know about illegal manipulations you should contact staff! Also if you talk about any of the current staff.

xAndrewx · #84 11-28-2005, 07:07 PM

Who's talking about brutals? You've bought other items Taikun.

Taikun · #85 11-28-2005, 07:16 PM

i traded items for them yea. what's wrong with it. umm Sam. Jagen had created those maps and James (both can't now anymore) which is good but still there are people with over 100's of stacked ones. tig had 1000 x.x and also grimmp2p had many that he bought from players who have got them from james. umm there are still many around but o well. i guess staff doesn't have the time to check every single account. (nor would i if i was staff). it's a lot of work x-x. xD andrew you won't believe it but i never bought a single item via usd.

xAndrewx · #86 11-28-2005, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Taikun

i traded items for them yea. what's wrong with it. umm Sam. Jagen had created those maps and James (both can't now anymore) which is good but still there are people with over 100's of stacked ones. tig had 1000 x.x and also grimmp2p had many that he bought from players who have got them from james. umm there are still many around but o well. i guess staff doesn't have the time to check every single account. (nor would i if i was staff). it's a lot of work x-x

Can you provide any evidence?
Who's James anyway?

Sam · #87 11-28-2005, 07:20 PM

Stefan deleted all those stacked brutals 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Taikun · #88 11-28-2005, 07:32 PM

umm yeah the maps beeing / have been on their accounts o.o @ andrew . oh good sam but i am sure there are still some around because i'm always beeing told who has them without really asking for it. but if you say that stefan deleated them ALL i will believe it :O (james was a developer staff if i remember correctly who had really many rights such as creating items. he created them and after many months when he came back after he quit he traded to tig and others for mal stuff. then lance deleated those items on gk and replaced them with some other stuff and james got away with it i guess. meanwhile james isn't staff anymore i think but i am not sure xD). james sold like over 2k brutals for mal stuff is one evidence and for jagen.. well we all know bout the old times don't we?

Sam · #89 11-28-2005, 08:34 PM

Ok let's go back to the topic. It was the question: Whats going on, on GK? Is it dead.

Taikun · #90 11-28-2005, 08:36 PM

yes, unfortunatly

Googi · #91 11-28-2005, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Taikun

but who will nerfe them? i doubt that staff will do it :/ look at the items. they're all overpowered.. ZH i didn't even know who had the brutals and where they got it from. i never bought 1 for usd

The staff have nerfed things in the past. Claiming that a reset is needed because staff won't nerf is pointless, however, since it would be the staff that would have to reset the server.

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Originally Posted by Taikun

yes, unfortunatly

No. It's not. Don't say the server is dead when it clearly isn't just because you don't like the server. If you think the server sucks, say that it sucks, not that it's dead.

Taikun · #92 11-28-2005, 10:01 PM

the server was real good ONCE... now it's not anymore, and the items aren't the only thing that let it die x-x. i named enough that i think is important for what i am saying. all the reasons i named <.< read em again if u forgot what i said. :/

Damix2 · #93 11-28-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Taikun

die

There are 60 players on right now. Thats so dead

Taikun · #94 11-28-2005, 10:36 PM

lol yea 60 player where like 50 are new ones and 10 old ones. the rest quit because they realized that it's not worth it anymore. and i'm sure tomorrow it will be other 50 players not the same as now, who are on lol

Googi · #95 11-28-2005, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Taikun

the server was real good ONCE... now it's not anymore, and the items aren't the only thing that let it die x-x. i named enough that i think is important for what i am saying. all the reasons i named <.< read em again if u forgot what i said. :/

You provided reasons why you don't like the server. If the server were dead, then those reasons could possibly serve as an explanation as to why the server died. However, you failed to establish that the server is dead to begin with. As Damix noted, the server isn't dead as it continues to maintain a considerable playerbase.

Spiker · #96 11-29-2005, 02:58 AM

yes googi, but why dont they ever introduce a new way to get money thats easy. Thats one reason why gral is going down the hill. Because it is to damn hard to get diamonds, it is rediculusly hard to get good items. like i have been trying to get a KJ shield for over 10 months, it took my friend 3 days to get from when he started, WTF IS GOING ON HERE!!!!!

CidNight1142 · #97 11-29-2005, 08:38 AM

Your friend is probably just a better wheeler and dealer then you. Diamonds are not that hard to get, but you do have to work to get them. The problem isn't the difficulty of getting diamonds or plat, the problem is the fact that sellers corner markets and then inflate the prices to unreasonable amounts. Something that is 100 diamonds is sort of reasonable...selling an item for 1100 diamonds is not. I don't care how rare the item is, that's ridiculous and its single handedly inflating the price of the diamond and the item itself.

MasterNuke · #98 11-29-2005, 09:13 AM

GK is still going downhill from lack of good management. Same goes for Zone. A group of ~10 on and off unpaid volunteer staff cannot handle and keep Graal Kingdoms well maintained at all times. Thus bringing the result we have now.

There are still problems and projects that have been lingering around for years...

xAndrewx · #99 11-29-2005, 10:34 AM

Such as?

Craigus · #**100** 11-29-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Such as?

Flying monsters, theres a graal workers event where we was building a wand shop, thats half built, and the wands were never released, there are spells that do nothing, there are god items that can't be obtained.

Googi · #**101** 11-29-2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiker

yes googi, but why dont they ever introduce a new way to get money thats easy.

That would be a bad idea. At best, the players would just abandon diamonds as a currency and switch to something else like when plat was overinflated. At worst, you cause permanent inflation that would be very difficult to reverse without a reset.

Deophite18 · #**102** 11-29-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Taikun

i personally don't play gk anymore because of the fact that there are like 3 monopols who have all items and only fewer who have got hold of the rest of eventstuff. umm there is nothing i could work for anymore. once it was fun to level physique but since that "creating brutal maps" time i don't see the point in paying lots for them if others get them for free and spread them out to their usd friends. i won't play till a reset happens because i see no fairness at this point. nor do i think that it's ok that people have lvl 107 phys by that wisdom-physique glitch. whta sense does armor make then? (ac, resist phys?) if you can get me arguments against a reset i would like to hear them.

If you cared about items you wouldnt have sold yours to random people multiple times. So dont tell everyone you dont play because of your inability to get items. You had all kinds of stuff that you CHOSE to get rid of. As for you not being able to pk people anymore then maybe you shouldnt haven given away your stats either? Seriouslly, dont give everything you have away including stats and come back here complaining about gameplay. Because you have no right. If you cant pk anymore then why dont you do something about it besides sitting in trade all day when you do actually decide to log on. Get dias to get maps and go kill stuff. That goes for everyone who is to lazy to level by any means neccesary. Gear doesnt make THAT much difference between two high level pkers. And like i said before, there is nothing stopping any of you from leveling yourself. Laziness is the only excuse. Dont sit in trade all day complaining about people getting stronger than you because while you were sitting there complaining they were spending time doing maps or collecting diamonds to buy more maps.

Sam · #**103** 11-29-2005, 08:51 PM

GK lacks of new things that's true. But it also lacks in fixing old problems we still have. Perhaps when we can begin with debugging and correct / improve some things it's a good start. I see many suggestions in the forum and also some never fixed bugs. When these things are done we can think about new monsters, items quests aso.

Taikun · #**104** 11-29-2005, 10:34 PM

what to level for? x-x everybody quit. wow ima go pk lvl 8 player cause those are the only still playing O.o and really the old times where strength was important are really over. that's why i decided to get rid of my stuff and those days won't come back as it seems. maybe some of you remember when markb and nychris played. those were big days on gk because there was actually something to work for. to beat the enemy but what's now? i need lvl 7 in the worst case if i want to beat a shell bomy with fists and that's all you can reach now as it seems. and the worst is that the new player can't even get items which are rare x-x i don't get the point anymore. there needs to be done something as sam just said. (new stuff, new monsters, quests etc.)

Spiker · #**105** 11-29-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Schlurfy

GK lacks of new things that's true. But it also lacks in fixing old problems we still have. Perhaps when we can begin with debugging and correct / improve some things it's a good start. I see many suggestions in the forum and also some never fixed bugs. When these things are done we can think about new monsters, items quests aso.

See, thats the probelm sam, even though one problem is fixed, another problem is made just as soon. So why dont we have somebody working on items, weapons, monsters, ect. and some other people working on bugs?!?!
I can do some weapons and stuff, im experienced enough, but i dont make them, because bjorn and ZH say they suck, and they dont. So if we could get somebody to do that, it would be awesome!

Jaquet · #**106** 11-30-2005, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

3) Yes. Release of a new one will hopefully be very soon. I think when v2 is disabled and you can only use v4.

If V2 Gets disabled then i guess im done with graal because V4 doesnt work on my computer.

xAndrewx · #**107** 11-30-2005, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaquet

If V2 Gets disabled then i guess im done with graal because V4 doesnt work on my computer.

Shouldn't you post this as a bug on the V4 bugs section then? Do yourself a favour.

Taikun · #**108** 12-05-2005, 10:22 PM

this forum is **** x-x everytime i post something that actually is a message to improve something it gets ****ing deleated, bye you won't read any post of me again x.x not even this simple thing works like it should.

Damix2 · #**109** 12-05-2005, 10:39 PM

You complaining it is dead is beneficial to the server? Take a seat, none of your opinions matter.

Draenin · #**110** 12-05-2005, 11:46 PM

Kingdoms will slowly destroy itself. Might as well be dead.

CidNight1142 · #**111** 12-06-2005, 09:43 AM

wow, you guys are a barrel of happiness. I enjoy kingdoms alot, I also know many others who feel the same way. (yes I know I'm gonna get 14 "wow you such because you're not being the most negative personal alive, shutup, no one cares what you think unless you're continuing the downfall. Thanks in advance)

Draenin · #**112** 12-06-2005, 12:02 PM

If you want to keep enjoying kingdoms, don't get involved with the larger issues it has. ;]

Zero Hour · #**113** 12-06-2005, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

If you want to keep enjoying kingdoms, don't get involved with the larger issues it has. ;]

This is superbly true, and true for most video games. I don't know why the players always seek to get involved in the larger issues.

I've played games before that had problems, but I didn't go, "OH LET'S NAG NAG NAG. WASTE OUR TIME MAKING SUGGESTIONS, AND OTHERWISE APPEAR NEGATIVE. THEN WE SHOULD QUESTION WHY WE'RE EVEN INVOLVED IN THE FIRST PLACE."

I just acknowledge the problems and play within the realm I paid to play in. You can still enjoy a game if it has problems. But whatever, that's just how I feel - I've only moderated a few forums, so my opinion isn't that worldly.

Stevsen · #**114** 12-06-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

This is superbly true, and true for most video games. I don't know why the players always seek to get involved in the larger issues.

I've played games before that had problems, but I didn't go, "OH LET'S NAG NAG NAG. WASTE OUR TIME MAKING SUGGESTIONS, AND OTHERWISE APPEAR NEGATIVE. THEN WE SHOULD QUESTION WHY WE'RE EVEN INVOLVED IN THE FIRST PLACE."

I just acknowledge the problems and play within the realm I paid to play in. You can still enjoy a game if it has problems. But whatever, that's just how I feel - I've only moderated a few forums, so my opinion isn't that worldly.

BUT, there are no games out there even comarable to GK's bugs. Also, we have 1000+ suggestion threads, and name just one that has made it into the game.

Here are a few things that makes people want to "NAG NAG" and waste their time.

1) 3/4 of the spells are either useless or doesn't have GFX/doesn't work.
2) There are what, 16 types of monsters max? Why have Turn Undead? There is like 1 of those 16 that are undead, and those are hardly anywhere to be found. Whats the hard thing in making a Undead Bomy or something?
3) There is absolutely NO advantages of becoming a priest instead of a fighter, other than the free prayer scroll and two start spells.The same goes for a mage.
4) What exactly is the goal of the game? To get level 110 and have the "leetest" items? Well, maybe you find that fun untill you are level 110. After that all you can do is participate in events, duel, or sit around in Bomboria trade if none of this happens.

Thats four reasons for you.

Damix2 · #**115** 12-06-2005, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevsen

1) 3/4 of the spells are either useless or doesn't have GFX/doesn't work.
2) There are what, 16 types of monsters max? Why have Turn Undead? There is like 1 of those 16 that are undead, and those are hardly anywhere to be found. Whats the hard thing in making a Undead Bomy or something?
3) There is absolutely NO advantages of becoming a priest instead of a fighter, other than the free prayer scroll and two start spells.The same goes for a mage.
4) What exactly is the goal of the game? To get level 110 and have the "leetest" items? Well, maybe you find that fun untill you are level 110. After that all you can do is participate in events, duel, or sit around in Bomboria trade if none of this happens.

Thats four reasons for you.

1. Agreed.
2. Monsters are being worked on, its just taking a while.
3. And likewise there are no advantages to becoming a warrior or barbarian, you just start with 2 other skills... what are you getting at?
4. I'm lvl 110 and I do much more then that?

Sam · #**116** 12-06-2005, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

This is superbly true, and true for most video games. I don't know why the players always seek to get involved in the larger issues.

I've played games before that had problems, but I didn't go, "OH LET'S NAG NAG NAG. WASTE OUR TIME MAKING SUGGESTIONS, AND OTHERWISE APPEAR NEGATIVE. THEN WE SHOULD QUESTION WHY WE'RE EVEN INVOLVED IN THE FIRST PLACE."

I just acknowledge the problems and play within the realm I paid to play in. You can still enjoy a game if it has problems. But whatever, that's just how I feel - I've only moderated a few forums, so my opinion isn't that worldly.

Good statement, I agree nearly 100%.

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Originally Posted by Stevsen

1) 3/4 of the spells are either useless or doesn't have GFX/doesn't work.
2) There are what, 16 types of monsters max? Why have Turn Undead? There is like 1 of those 16 that are undead, and those are hardly anywhere to be found. Whats the hard thing in making a Undead Bomy or something?
3) There is absolutely NO advantages of becoming a priest instead of a fighter, other than the free prayer scroll and two start spells.The same goes for a mage.
4) What exactly is the goal of the game? To get level 110 and have the "leetest" items? Well, maybe you find that fun untill you are level 110. After that all you can do is participate in events, duel, or sit around in Bomboria trade if none of this happens.

1) Don't agree maybe you don't know the sense of some, that doesn't mean these are useless.

2) A spell must work on how much monsters to be not useless? What do you know about the history of this spell?

3) I am a priest and chose it because it matched with my role I wanted to play in the game...

4) Amusement, fun, making friends, join kindred spirit...

ApothiX · #**117** 12-06-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevsen

BUT, there are no games out there even comarable to GK's bugs. Also, we have 1000+ suggestion threads, and name just one that has made it into the game.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=62439

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Originally Posted by Stefan

- Added script command openGraalURL(url) for secure login to the website, this is interesting for opening the upgrade page, guild panel etc.

Or, if you're only referring to Graal Kingdoms,
Multiple story playerhouses are a good example. And how about the graphics people develop for the shields and such, those are also being added.

Stevsen · #**118** 12-06-2005, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Schlurfy

Good statement, I agree nearly 100%.

1) Don't agree maybe you don't know the sense of some, that doesn't mean these are useless.

2) A spell must work on how much monsters to be not useless? What do you know about the history of this spell?

3) I am a priest and chose it because it matched with my role I wanted to play in the game...

4) Amusement, fun, making friends, join kindred spirit...

Well i think youre the only person thinking that a lot of spells aren't useless. Make a poll, i mean, why not?

And by the priest thing, yes, it matches if you RP, but how many does? I do too, but not many does.

Draenin · #**119** 12-06-2005, 07:32 PM

'Scuse me, Schlurf, but Stevsen has very valid points. Your replies are somewhat flaky. 'Kindred Spirit?' C'mon. I'm sure you can do better than that.

Sorry, but I'd like to be on a GK that's more engaging than simply, "amusing."

Sam · #**120** 12-06-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

'Scuse me, Schlurf, but Stevsen has very valid points. Your replies are somewhat flaky. 'Kindred Spirit?' C'mon. I'm sure you can do better than that.

Sorry, but I'd like to be on a GK that's more engaging than simply, "amusing."

It's okay to have a different points of view. And also to have different reasons to play a game. I posted some of mine. We all know that there are useless stuff like spells prayers, rings and sometimes also players

. I don't think that GK have to raise a claim being perfect.
But Draenin open and above board: you was member of the RP team. You have noticed that it is not always possible to change things in some weeks. It's a progressive junction. Changing things needs time, alot of time.