Dead?

xAndrewx · #1 11-25-2005, 10:59 AM

I've not been on GK much, but from the Forums it looks as though GK is dieing.
What's currently happening? Any wars? Any events? Anything to look forward too? Anything at all?
Most of you will bash this, but ask yourself 'Where is GK?'
I've checked the kingdom forums, 2 are active. Bel'la O' and Pirates, anychange in the leadership of Bel'la O'?
Quite a few questions, I'll make it easier for you.
What's currently happening?
Any wars?
Any events?
Anything to look forward too?
Anything at all?
Anychange in the leadership of Bel'la O'?
Thanks

MasterNuke · #2 11-25-2005, 11:03 AM

Not much.
No.
Yea, but nothing real big.
Don't know. No information about future plans.
Not sure.
No.

xAndrewx · #3 11-25-2005, 11:03 AM

Ah, thanks.
It's a shame too.
Thanks again ed.

MasterNuke · #4 11-25-2005, 11:14 AM

Though... I can't be sure that I am correct.

Sam · #5 11-25-2005, 11:52 AM

It's partially correct that GK is boring sometimes. I know that the EM's are doing small events mostly every day.
Ed got some days ago a rare item for a bigger event he will host ( I was astonished he didn't mention it).
I am waiting for a new kind of monsters which will give us fun, but it seems it needs more time for scripting as developers have at the moment.

Some things that have decide needs Stefan but he didn't do it and so we have to be patient till he have time to decide these things.

But at last it's your job as player to make enjoy yourself!
Staff can only give you the tools you have to craft the fun!

And there are lot of things fit for fun.

Smutastic · #6 11-25-2005, 02:31 PM

There's only one solution:

Reset.

cheers.

Sam · #7 11-25-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Smutastic

There's only one solution:

Reset.

cheers.

That's crap in my opinion. There are always more than one solution. Maybe the staff have to be renewed. I don't cling to my job and will quit it if people want it.

dNeonb · #8 11-25-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

What's currently happening?
Any wars?
Any events?
Anything to look forward too?
Anything at all?
Anychange in the leadership of Bel'la O'?
Thanks

1) Things are in the planning phase and hopefully going to be realized soon. (Day/Night System & Weathereffects, new events, change of start-island, ..)
2) Maybe one is coming up soon, other ones later. (It releats to #)
3) Yes. Release of a new one will hopefully be very soon. I think when v2 is disabled and you can only use v4.
4) I'd say yes. Just look at #2, #3, #6.
5) I'd say this is included to #4.
6) Quite possible that it changes. But don't. ask me for an exact date. There is a good new leader needed. - And no, there are no elections.

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Originally Posted by MasterNuke

Not much.
No.
Yea, but nothing real big.
Don't know. No information about future plans.
Not sure.
No.

Did you ever check what is going on on Debug? Or did you even ask someone with access? Well, some high staff? - I don't think so.

TheSmu · #9 11-25-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

1) Things are in the planning phase and hopefully going to be realized soon. (Day/Night System & Weathereffects, new events, change of start-island, ..)

Yay. Do you really think that a Day/Night System, weathereffects, new events and a new start island will make more players play Graal Kingdoms?
You must be kidding.
[QUOTE=dNeonb]

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

3) Yes. Release of a new one will hopefully be very soon. I think when v2 is disabled and you can only use v4.

Details?

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

4) I'd say yes. Just look at #2, #3, #6.

Obviously, no.

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

6) Quite possible that it changes. But don't ask me for an exact date. There is a good new leader needed. - And no, there are no elections.

Awesome, do we have to wait for another year? Ridiculous if you ask me, just look at the stuff Debaglio has done. It's time.

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Originally Posted by Schlurfy

I don't cling to my job and will quit it if people want it.

It isn't your fault, hombre.

dNeonb · #10 11-25-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSmu

Details?

It's some kind of ship battle, already finished. And a new minigame with event.

MasterNuke · #11 11-25-2005, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

Did you ever check what is going on on Debug? Or did you even ask someone with access? Well, some high staff? - I don't think so.

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Originally Posted by MasterNuke

Though... I can't be sure that I am correct.

I thought that sort of information would be somewhat public like every other game.

Draenin · #12 11-26-2005, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Dead?

Answer: Yes.

Methril · #13 11-26-2005, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Schlurfy

But at last it's your job as player to make enjoy yourself!

No it's not.

Zero Hour · #14 11-26-2005, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

Did you ever check what is going on on Debug? Or did you even ask someone with access? Well, some high staff? - I don't think so.

"MasterNuke" (Ed) Doesn't have access to debug anymore, Bjorn.

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Originally Posted by Draenin

Answer: Yes.

I disagree, you're just being cynical.

Draenin · #15 11-26-2005, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

I disagree, you're just being cynical.

Whatever you say. ;]

Sam · #16 11-26-2005, 11:00 AM

It's sad that you people are not able to make constructive posts. You complain that GK is dead, but you don't help with good ideas or with helpful criticism.
I am sure that it's possible to get that from the most of you too.

xAndrewx · #17 11-26-2005, 11:12 AM

We've tried, the RP team have tried. We asked for the message system to be improved, but it wasn't. If the staff take our suggestions seriously, I think we'll take GK seriously.

Sam · #18 11-26-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

We've tried, the RP team have tried. We asked for the message system to be improved, but it wasn't. If the staff take our suggestions seriously, I think we'll take GK seriously.

It's sometimes like christmas: you have plenty wishes, but not all came true. Our Santa Stefan has a lot duties beside GK. And also not all wishes will be realized. The RP team got a chance but it failed. There are several reasons cause that, not only missing support by staff.
I see that almost all kingdoms are dead except CP. And why not CP? Because the leader Alan is active and motivates his members.

xAndrewx · #19 11-26-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Schlurfy

It's sometimes like christmas: you have plenty wishes, but not all came true. Our Santa Stefan has a lot duties beside GK. And also not all wishes will be realized. The RP team got a chance but it failed. There are several reasons cause that, not only missing support by staff.
I see that almost all kingdoms are dead except CP. And why not CP? Because the leader Alan is active and motivates his members.

I agree. GK needs more active developers. Who're the development staff for GK?
I don't mean new items, I mean new levels, new events, new islands, new quests. I'm sure the GST can help if you ask, isn't that what they're there for? correct me if I'm wrong.

I agree, CP is the most active kingdom. I only see myself on the Bel'la O' tag. I see my wife on her Dustari tag. I don't see anyone else though. The RP team shouldn't fail because of one hurdle. Where are you guys? do you post here still?
Who's in the RP Team anyway?
I'm working on Bel'la O'. I've contacted the leaders to find the 'scoop', hopefully I shall help bring it back with or without them.

Alot of questions again, let me make it easier for you.
Who're the development staff for GK?
GST, do you help if another person asks for help?
Where are the RP Team?
Does the RP team still post here?
Who's in the RP Team?

Zero Hour · #20 11-26-2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I'm working on Bel'la O'. I've contacted the leaders to find the 'scoop', hopefully I shall help bring it back with or without them.

Get your filthy mits off of my Kingdom; I'm well on my way to taking and turning it into the beautiful Zormite it once was.

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

We've tried

You tried. Not everyone.

meishanli · #21 11-26-2005, 06:09 PM

Edit: Cause ZH is tha man. ;]
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1:Fix all bugs/over powered items/ USELESS items that could be changed for a use. (I would say "overpowered" is an item with 2 base stats eg; str + dex)

2:Consider some changes in the game that can create some goals

3:Consider a reset (I know you don't want a reset Sam; but think about the positives and negatives of it.)

4:Find active leaders.

Meh, what the hell did the RP team before?

Zero Hour · #22 11-26-2005, 06:13 PM

I personally believe that if GK's entire system was revamped, and was in full working order... a Reset would be great - but you would have to entirely remake the GMAP, and all of the quests...

xAndrewx · #23 11-26-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

Get your filthy mits off of my Kingdom; I'm well on my way to taking and turning it into the beautiful Zormite it once was.

Zero, I respect you and ****, but what?
Bel'la O' isn't your kingdom.
I don't really know who's Zormites leader, nor do I care.
Zero, you're wanting to make a new GK. Not work on the
current one. You can't get anywhere without working
on the current project.
You know a reset won't occur. Why mention it?

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

You tried. Not everyone.

Didn't you try to? Didn't Draxx, Zurk, Googi, Draenin, Butz and Gryffon also try?
GK won't under go huge development. You should know more then anyone.
How long did it take for the RP Team to try and remove Kefkin?
Let me think on that one.

Zero Hour · #24 11-26-2005, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Zero, I respect you and ****, but what?
Bel'la O' isn't your kingdom.

No, not right now it's not. But I intend to take it over.

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Zero, you're wanting to make a new GK. Not work on the
current one. You can't get anywhere without working
on the current project.
You know a reset won't occur. Why mention it?

Andrew - I made the suggestion, and a few add ons to it in support of a reset if the add ons were to be followed - that doesn't mean I'm pushing for a reset, nor does it mean that I don't work on the current projects.

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Didn't you try to? Didn't Draxx, Zurk, Googi, Draenin, Butz and Gryffon

I know this may not shock others, but it may come as a shock to you - That's not everyone that plays Graal Kingdoms.

xAndrewx · #25 11-26-2005, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

No, not right now it's not. But I intend to take it over.

That's what you intend to do.
What about your current kingdom activity?
I saw in another thread that you don't go on your
current kingdom tag, what would change if you were
to be apointed dictator?

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

Andrew - I made the suggestion, and a few add ons to it in support of a reset if the add ons were to be followed - that doesn't mean I'm pushing for a reset, nor does it mean that I don't work on the current projects.

So, you're not too bothered about the econemy?
What's your main concern then? Isn't that where GK
is ruined?

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

I know this may not shock others, but it may come as a shock to you - That's not everyone that plays Graal Kingdoms.

(thanks for fixing post)
Nah, I agree there. But they're the only ones who're trying to improve GK. Can you name others?

Zero Hour · #26 11-26-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

That's what you intend to do.
I saw in another thread that you don't go on your
tag, would change if you were
to be apointed dictator?

I wouldn't have proposed to be the leader if it I wasn't ready to lead.

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

So, you're not too bothered about the econemy?
What's your main concern then? Isn't that where GK
is ruined?

I don't know if this is some sort of joke - but where is the logical path you followed to come to this conclusion?...

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Originally Posted by yourlogic?

Bees like pollen, and pollen is on flowers... MY GOD THE BEES ARE OUT TO BECOME FLORISTS AND GET RICH, AND BUY STOCKS IN HUGE COMPANIES SO THAT THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER THEM, AND THEN MAKE POLITICAL DECISIONS, THEY'RE GOING TO RULE THE WORLD AND WE'LL BE GENETICALLY ALTERED TO BE WORKER BEES. I HAVE TO TELL THE PRESIDENT!".

Seriously, what the Heck?

xAndrewx · #27 11-26-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

I wouldn't have proposed to be the leader if it I wasn't ready to lead.

What makes you think you're ready to lead
an entire kingdom?

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

I don't know if this is some sort of joke - but where is the logical path you followed to come to this conclusion?...
Seriously, what the Heck?

We all know the econemy is ****ed due to the mass production
of illigal items.
I'm sure it's hit you in the face, aswell as others.
If you think that my 'logic' is wrong, what is right?

Zero Hour · #28 11-26-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

What makes you think you're ready to lead
an entire kingdom?

What makes you question my ability? I can't think of anything. Well let me start with my skills, it will be a bit like a resume.

I was the successful leader of the entire Zormite Army under the dictatorship of Wren Archigos. During my time I revamped the system so that it was more stream line, and more controlled.

I grew very close (RP) to the dictatress, and was very good friends. We RPed together frequently, and I was in a small group of RP Zealots, pushing for further training in RP at the time.

I've been an Event Master
I've been a GP.

I'm sure the list continues, but to be honest I can't think of it all.

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We all know the econemy is ****ed due to the mass production
of illigal items.
I'm sure it's hit you in the face, aswell as others.
If you think that my 'logic' is wrong, what is right?

I'm sorry to hear that the economy is "star star star star ed".
I was only a GP, did you want me to Ban the admins until they sat down and came up with an amazing plan? I doubt it, because that would have done nothing - but that was the most I could do through my power, so please... what I'm asking you is... What is the relivance? It will be an RP kingdom leading towards training more people in RP, and holding smooth relationships, and strong moral beliefs which will be defended down to the last soldier.

What do you mean, "Hit me in the face"? Graal has never hit me in the face, but if you mean it in a metaphorical way - Graal has never hit me in the face. I'm a GP, I can't make items.

Well, let me make a metaphore, since you have....

If you see a car on the side of the road, and a frustrated man hammering at the engine at random, and you said, "I don't think that's how you're supposed to fix a car." and he responded, "Are you a mechanic?"... you would likely answer, "No, I'm not a mechanic - but I know that's not going to help". And I'll also be as kind as to explain it, incase it's not lucid enough - I may not have an answer to your (entirely unrelated) question, and poor logic used to form it - but I can tell you of your poor logic.

xAndrewx · #29 11-26-2005, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

What makes you....

....I grew very close (RP)....
....I'm sure the list continues, but to be honest I can't think of it all.

That's great. How long ago was this? 3 years?
Things change Zero, that's fact, not fiction.

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Originally Posted by ZeroHour

I'm sorry to hear that the....
....down to the last soldier.

I didn't ask you to do anything. I asked you
why you're wanting a reset.

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Originally Posted by ZeroHour

a Reset would be great

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Originally Posted by ZeroHour

What do you mean....
....but I can tell you of your poor logic.

What kind of logic would you class mine as?
I'm asking you why you think GK should have a reset.
Why isn't that related?
You've allready stated what you would do, but why would
you do it?

Brad · #30 11-26-2005, 07:27 PM

uhhh zero you want to bring back the glory of zormite but it has had no glory on gk...

Zero Hour · #31 11-26-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad

uhhh zero you want to bring back the glory of zormite but it has had no glory on gk...

It's had a degree of glory - I'm trying to embrace the heritage from GK2K1 aswell. I'm willing to hear suggestions in personal messages.

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

That's great. How long ago was this? 3 years?
Things change Zero, that's fact, not fiction.

I was pretty confident that I was a GP, and a Event Master much more recently than that, but perhaps I'm just under the influence of some unknown substance.

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I didn't ask you to do anything. I asked you
why you're wanting a reset.

If the suggestions I made were followed, it would recreate GK entirely - just as there are many games that follow the style of GK but are very different - GK would become an entirely new server.

xAndrewx · #32 11-26-2005, 07:29 PM

Zormite was great, it wouldn't stand a chance in this day and age.
The only reason why Bel'la O' didn't work was due to the leaders ignorance and neglection.

Zero Hour · #33 11-26-2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Zormite was great, it wouldn't stand a chance in this day and age.
The only reason why Bel'la O' didn't work was due to the leaders ignorance and neglection.

You're assuming I'm bringing Zormite back verbatim... it's got a whole new system.

Butz · #34 11-26-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I didn't ask you to do anything. I asked you
why you're wanting a reset.

If you're going to quote somebody, use the entire quote, not just the part that supports your argument. His full quote was:

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

I personally believe that if GK's entire system was revamped, and was in full working order... a Reset would be great - but you would have to entirely remake the GMAP, and all of the quests...

Notice that this is a conditional statement.
He's not supporting a reset at the current time. He's supporting a reset, ONLY if things are completely revamped.

Read > Think > Post.

xAndrewx · #35 11-26-2005, 07:34 PM

Why're you writing a system for a kingdom that doesn't exist?
Care to elaborate what this new system involves?

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Originally Posted by Butz

If you're going to quote somebody, use the entire quote, not just the part that supports your argument. His full quote was:

Notice that this is a conditional statement.
He's not supporting a reset at the current time. He's supporting a reset, ONLY if things are completely revamped.

Read > Think > Post.

Still, that's not a reason to WHY he's wanting a reset.
He's saying that's what he would like if a reset was to occur

Butz · #36 11-26-2005, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Why're you writing a system for a kingdom that doesn't exist?
Care to elaborate what this new system involves?

Still, that's not a reason to WHY he's wanting a reset.
He's saying that's what he would like if a reset was to occur

Have you looked around?
See how many Level 110's there are with full +12 equipment?
Now tell me how many got there legitimately.
That's why people want a reset.

However, he has conditions for a reset, because without making any changes, the same thing will simply happen again, and sometime down the line, we'll be having this same argument once again.

Wind_Master · #37 11-26-2005, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Butz

Have you looked around?
See how many Level 110's there are with full +12 equipment?
Now tell me how many got there legitimately.
That's why people want a reset.

I agree. Their are way too many. I dont really play GK but I know about some of the problems it has. I dont strongly agree with a reset but it wouldnt hurt. As Butz said their are too many high level people who cheated too reach that achivement.

OasaTor_PK · #38 11-26-2005, 09:09 PM

OasaTor for Bel'la Leader, Zero can be my minion helper monkey.

Wind_Master · #39 11-26-2005, 09:17 PM

I second that.

StrykerTFFD · #40 11-26-2005, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Butz

Have you looked around?
See how many Level 110's there are with full +12 equipment?
Now tell me how many got there legitimately.
That's why people want a reset.

Hmm, understandable, but is a full reset truely the answer for this specific reasons? The staff were too lazy to fix a couple abusable "bugs"(these "bugs" have been around for how long now....?) so we reset everyone? I'm pretty sure a good amount of legit players wouldn't be too thrilled.

Maybe a change to the system so these level 110s aren't so godly during wars*cough* Kingdom Mode *cough* may be a better solution.

Besides, most level 110s are that level by doing the rubies recipe(which Lance said was not a bug when it was discovered), and stealing from Lords(which so far is also stated as not a bug). Both of which anyone can really do.

The only bug I know that's being abused is the two people being level 110 and partying to abuse the low level wisdom for high physique. Now this bug I can definitely see calling for a reset, but since it's only being abused by small amounts of people, it doesn't really call for a mass reset.