Massokre's Classic Discussion (split from Warning about graalians.com)

jake13jake · #1 11-19-2005, 12:30 AM

hey galen, want to make a nice house for classic and put it in stefan's house, since he apparently isn't interested in remaking his house?

Minoc · #2 11-19-2005, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jake13jake

hey galen, want to make a nice house for classic and put it in stefan's house, since he apparently isn't interested in remaking his house?

Can't you use his old one?

jake13jake · #3 11-19-2005, 06:15 PM

it doesn't really fit into all of the other new houses we're putting in.

Minoc · #4 11-19-2005, 06:19 PM

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it doesn't really fit into all of the other new houses we're putting in.

Why?
I thought Classic houses are supposed to be in an old classic style.

jake13jake · #5 11-20-2005, 12:58 AM

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Why?
I thought Classic houses are supposed to be in an old classic style.

They're supposed to be eye-appealing and use tiles in ways they don't look error-ish, which is why I hate house bricks.

Minoc · #6 11-20-2005, 06:59 AM

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They're supposed to be eye-appealing and use tiles in ways they don't look error-ish, which is why I hate house bricks.

You could easily fix the tile errors in his old house.

jake13jake · #7 11-20-2005, 07:23 AM

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You could easily fix the tile errors in his old house.

It's the layout, not the tile errors. It's a shame that Stefan has better judgment than anyone he hires to make judgment.

Minoc · #8 11-20-2005, 07:25 AM

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It's the layout, not the tile errors.

But Classic houses are supposed to be using that layout.

jake13jake · #9 11-20-2005, 07:36 AM

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But Classic houses are supposed to be using that layout.

Onnet Town's old houses are just bland, that's a fact.

James205 · #10 11-20-2005, 08:39 AM

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Onnet Town's old houses are just bland, that's a fact.

There is meaning to the level and why it's bland. It's a good example of how much general levels on graal have evolved. Why improve the originals? They are more valuble than most levels currently on graal.

You say you hate those bricks? I like them and im sure many other oldbies from graal do too. Leave the levels how they are.

sage_scooby · #11 11-20-2005, 06:45 PM

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There is meaning to the level and why it's bland. It's a good example of how much general levels on graal have evolved. Why improve the originals? They are more valuble than most levels currently on graal.

You say you hate those bricks? I like them and im sure many other oldbies from graal do too. Leave the levels how they are.

I agree I think classic houses should have the simple classic style. I still wish the old classic was back so meh...

jake13jake · #12 11-20-2005, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by James205

There is meaning to the level and why it's bland. It's a good example of how much general levels on graal have evolved. Why improve the originals? They are more valuble than most levels currently on graal.

You say you hate those bricks? I like them and im sure many other oldbies from graal do too. Leave the levels how they are.

The bricks, you just can't go without ever having the colors not line up in the bricks. By the way, you're pretty active on Classic to really care about what happens to it anyway.

James205 · #13 11-21-2005, 04:08 AM

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The bricks, you just can't go without ever having the colors not line up in the bricks. By the way, you're pretty active on Classic to really care about what happens to it anyway.

Great sarcasm but... what the hell does me being ACTIVE have anything to do with this? I've been around graal for a while and so have many people.

You're completely forgetting about the concept of CLASSIC, there is a reason for the title.

Minoc · #14 11-21-2005, 07:04 PM

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It's a shame that Stefan has better judgment than anyone he hires to make judgment.

Who are you talking about? :|

Minoc · #15 11-21-2005, 07:08 PM

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Onnet Town's old houses are just bland, that's a fact.

I like them.
Classic should have classic levels, otherwise it's not worthy of its name.

jake13jake · #16 11-21-2005, 08:54 PM

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I like them.
Classic should have classic levels, otherwise it's not worthy of its name.

Classic should have classic elements, not necessarily classic levels.

James205 · #17 11-21-2005, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jake13jake

Classic should have classic elements, not necessarily classic levels.

And when the hell did you decide what CLASSIC should have? Classic is CLASSIC, not what jake13jake wants it to be.

Stop being ignorant.

Minoc · #18 11-21-2005, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jake13jake

Classic should have classic elements, not necessarily classic levels.

And what are classic elements?
You're changing both the levels and the style.

ApothiX · #19 11-21-2005, 10:59 PM

Wow, you guys certainly changed the topic fast. jake13jake, why didn't you just PM galen and ask him that, instead of going completely off topic?

jake13jake · #20 11-22-2005, 04:37 AM

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Wow, you guys certainly changed the topic fast. jake13jake, why didn't you just PM galen and ask him that, instead of going completely off topic?

Going off topic is funnier.

Minoc · #21 11-23-2005, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

Wow, you guys certainly changed the topic fast. jake13jake, why didn't you just PM galen and ask him that, instead of going completely off topic?

The topic is dead anyway.

Corp1 · #22 11-23-2005, 07:57 AM

Yeah, he is gonna remake Zol's into a nightclub....and put lava in level13 as well.

Minoc · #23 11-23-2005, 09:38 AM

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Yeah, he is gonna remake Zol's into a nightclub....and put lava in level13 as well.

I hope you're kidding. :|

jake13jake · #24 11-23-2005, 09:49 AM

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I hope you're kidding. :|

Nah, Zol's is great. I would probably add beer to all of those places and that's about it. Actually, it's Galen's house I'm turning into a nightclub, and Stefan's house into a fishing place. Mwaahahahaaha... Although, right now I'm banned and I don't know why. It's quite the confusing situation, so I can't really do any of that right now, and my LATs are going to running out of their 50 gajillion assignments, so I might have to reassign the less active LAT's works. I mean, Racil's made some really good levels that nobody's going to see for a while. Like 80% of everything is going to be releasable with clientside GS2, and everyone's going to be so whiney that the first few quests are easy... but they're supposed to be easy. A lot of the scripting that needs to happen is system stuff, which Storm is supposed to take care of. We will want to see
1. improved movement system
2. improved HD system
3. save points and a better warp ring system (largely for security reasons)
4. improved carry object system (which I hope takes advantage of updateboard on gmaps)
5. improved bomb system (extending mostly from carry object system).
6. an actual projectile system (the default one is driving me insane).

And then it's mostly me working on baddies, but I've been putting them off trying to focus on getting levels done. Just need trolls and turtles for gnome caves, then the leafy guy and spiders etc for kull's.

syltburk · #25 11-23-2005, 04:45 PM

man ur not gonna add anything..

jacob_bald6225 · #26 11-24-2005, 02:18 AM

The whole Classic idea to me was not a paticular style, but adding on to what there was already and making it better and better as it went, but with all of the old levels gone it would make sense to bring back some things and build from where we are... Yah!

jake13jake · #27 11-24-2005, 03:30 AM

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man ur not gonna add anything..

man, u were assigned that forest island that Mighty had started for SO LONG. I wouldn't be assigning all of this work if I wasn't going to use it.

haunter · #28 11-24-2005, 06:13 AM

Stop trying to destroy history.

jake13jake · #29 11-24-2005, 06:30 AM

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Stop trying to destroy history.

I also want to put the otherworlders on the desert island quest, and I want to replace Supernick's with a slightly upgraded NLs. Latter is less likely to happen.

So I like to use history, just make it more functional.

syltburk · #30 11-26-2005, 01:13 PM

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man, u were assigned that forest island that Mighty had started for SO LONG. I wouldn't be assigning all of this work if I wasn't going to use it.

You don't understand, I don't want an modernized classic.

Crono · #31 11-26-2005, 02:35 PM

Classic needs updating but it needs "old skool" updates that are not influenced by today's style.

Clash · #32 11-26-2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by haunter

Stop trying to destroy history.

It's 1984 all over again!

StrykerTFFD · #33 11-26-2005, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by haunter

Stop trying to destroy history.

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Classic needs updating but it needs "old skool" updates that are not influenced by today's style.

Agreed.

jake13jake · #34 11-27-2005, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Classic needs updating but it needs "old skool" updates that are not influenced by today's style.

I don't even know what today's style looks like because I've never played any other server besides Classic, except for like a months run on Shaded Legend before it went to hell graphically.

Minoc · #35 11-27-2005, 05:17 PM

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I don't even know what today's style looks like because I've never played any other server besides Classic, except for like a months run on Shaded Legend before it went to hell graphically.

Today's style = your style.

jake13jake · #36 11-27-2005, 10:56 PM

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Today's style = your style.

I honestly just want things to blend together. A horse barn made out of brick, for instance, wouldn't make sense at all.

Minoc · #37 11-30-2005, 12:57 AM

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A horse barn made out of brick, for instance, wouldn't make sense at all.

How is that related to remaking old houses?

StrykerTFFD · #38 11-30-2005, 01:37 AM

Minoc for Mayor of Classic gogogo

jake13jake · #39 11-30-2005, 08:31 AM

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How is that related to remaking old houses?

uhh.. I'm bringing back Miser's house and adventurers pub, and hopefully some babord houses. I brought back Stefan's house, recently added a welcome mat and got rid of the side room where there used to be a warp to wherever. I might put the pub under the bridge in that house by the bridge.

Minoc · #40 11-30-2005, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jake13jake

uhh.. I'm bringing back Miser's house and adventurers pub, and hopefully some babord houses. I brought back Stefan's house, recently added a welcome mat and got rid of the side room where there used to be a warp to wherever. I might put the pub under the bridge in that house by the bridge.

Bringing back or remaking?
Regardless, these houses are not enough.