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Old 11-20-2005, 02:56 PM
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The reason spar/PK/event servers do well is because, basically, that's all graal is good for.

Everyone can develop until they are blue in the face, but in the end even the most amazingly scripted server with tons of things to do will pale in comparison to the tons of free and P2P MMORPGS available today.

Graal is a simplistic game that appeals to people with simple expectations, for the most part.

What do people do on UN? Spar, PK, Chat, Events.

N-Pulse? Spar, PK, Chat, Events.

Zone? Spar, PK, Chat, Events.

Era? Spar, PK, Chat, Events.

Babylon? Spar, PK, Chat, Events.


With the exception of Valk, which was role playing, those 4 elements have defined every sucsessful server.

Any form of PvE (Player VS Monster) system will fail, due to the limits of being able to script a functional AI.

Any sort of guild war system will fail, due to a low player count. What's the fun in guild wars if there are 2-3 guilds with 7 people each on the entire server?



I'm not looking forward to any servers, because they will all be the same damn thing, even if it wasnt the intention of the creators for them to be so.
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Old 11-20-2005, 06:49 PM
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Any sort of guild war system will fail, due to a low player count. What's the fun in guild wars if there are 2-3 guilds with 7 people each on the entire server?
The Party/Gang system on Era seems to be quite successful though, half of the people are wearing a tag
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Old 11-20-2005, 11:23 PM
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The Party/Gang system on Era seems to be quite successful though, half of the people are wearing a tag

It works on Era for two reasons.

1) You're forced to be in one of the gangs. You can not create your own guild.
2) Era has a "large" player base.

If someone was to create a new server with guild based content, it would most likely be a total waste, as there would be too few players to make a good use of it.



I also agree that with all the player worlds out there, and the ability to make your own, developers are far too spread out. 1/20 worlds will make it to hosted, most likely, and out of those, maybe 1/8 makes it classic ever. So what we basically have is a large amount of wasted time and content.



I honestly have no idea if Stefan wants this game to remain, or if he is just riding it out until its end.

The community is dying. What's being done about it? Well, trials are being "limited" to make it smaller.

Global staff seems at best disinterested in their jobs. While Malinko is probably using his position to draw attention to his own criteria, at least he is also in some effect doing his job, or so I think.


This is no longer the year 2000. Graal is not one of a few MMOs out there, it is one of many.

The player base no longer supports mass development, tons of new player worlds, or anything of the such. Even if you complete a great world, you'd be lucky to draw 30-40 players at peak time.


The ONLY way anything will happen on this game is if fully functional free accounts were enabled again. This will never occur.


That's why there are 100 worlds and no new ones on the tabs. No one to develop them, no one to play them.
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Old 11-20-2005, 11:34 PM
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It works on Era for two reasons.

1) You're forced to be in one of the gangs. You can not create your own guild.
2) Era has a "large" player base.
When was the last time you logged on Era and stayed on for more than 10 minutes? The party system allows you to create your own party. say "/party help"
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:10 AM
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The ONLY way anything will happen on this game is if fully functional free accounts were enabled again. This will never occur.
That's a good point. You are also right in saying that it will never occur (unless Graal can find a way to make money without charging for accounts ).
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Old 11-21-2005, 01:30 AM
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That's a good point. You are also right in saying that it will never occur (unless Graal can find a way to make money without charging for accounts ).
Even to just pay once and thats it, instead of re-upgradeing all the time. I'm sure new people would be playing.
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Old 11-21-2005, 03:57 PM
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Even to just pay once and thats it, instead of re-upgradeing all the time. I'm sure new people would be playing.
Uhm thats all you have to do to play on the classic servers.
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:51 PM
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Uhm thats all you have to do to play on the classic servers.
Classic accounts dont work on private servers.
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