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[Malinko]

Hi.

Around three weeks ago, Stefan sent me a private message asking me if I were interested in becoming apart of the Playerworld Administration. Of course, I accepted the offer once he proposed it to me. In all honesty, I do not know the reason why Stefan offered me the position; that's an unknown reason to me and GraalOnline. Throughout the three weeks, I've learned some think I'm good being apart of the team, some think I'm bad being apart of the team, and some don't care or know what the team is. From the three, the majority of the "some" think I'm bad being apart of the team. Anyways, this thread isn't to give the readers of this thread a story of how I became apart of the Playerworld Administration; this thread is to give the readers of this thread a response to situation that has been brought to me, which I've taken no actions or haven't responded to since I've become apart of the Playerworld Administration.

Unholy Nation.

Before I begin talking about this situation that a number of people have brought to me, I would like to say a few words to GraalOnline in general, as in the community and to GraalOnline global staff.
I do NOT, I repeat because I find this important; I do [B]NOT[\B] care what you think of me. As in, I do not care if you think I'm embarrassing the GraalOnline global staff, because in all honesty, I don't like some of you for reasons concerning on how you do your job, though, I also do not care if you think I'm making a fool of myself, because I think it's time for me to make a response because it's important to the position of the job I do, being apart of the Playerworld Administration.

So with that said, let me begin.

Unholy Nation.

When Stefan offered me the position to become apart of the Playerworld Administration, I did gladly accept the offer. Of course, it wasn't just that simple. When Stefan offered me the position, he told me I had a limitation. I knew the limitation once he mentioned it. I'm sure you're wondering what the limitation is, well I can tell you. If I was to become apart of the Playerworld Administration, then I had to agree that I would take no part in the playerworld, Unholy Nation.

For those who don't know the past of me and Unholy Nation, let me explain.

I don't care to mention the past, as in a few years ago when I was a Developer on Unholy Nation, but I will mention the past which started in January of 2005. During the early weeks of the month, Okilian, the former Co-Manager logged online the RemoteControl of Graal2002 Debug (now known as Kingdoms Debug). Though, Okilian logged online seeking global help if I do remember. Apparently some "hacker" or commonly known as a player using a trainer was dropping a massive amount of bombs in a few levels to crash clients of several players. Of course, this action done by the player wasn't directed towards one individual, but I figured he thought it was fun. Anyways, Okilian seeked global help to help solve the situation. During the time, there was no global staff online. Of course, I've worked with Unholy Nation in the past, years ago, but I offered assistance to help him with his situation. So Okilian gave me RemoteControl of Unholy Nation. If I remember correctly, he had to leave shortly after he gave me a RemoteControl, so he added attributes, ban, NPC-Control, and warp rights to solve the situation. Anyways, after a few minutes, the situation was dealt with. I waited for a while for Okilian to return and during the time, some decompression error raised on Unholy Nation. The decompression error affiliated with the heads folder, having a massive amount of files, which needed to be sorted out, so he asked me to help solve this problem as well. After these two situations, I just started to hang around Unholy Nation. Of course, Unholy Nation was infact the "home server" I played on, because I enjoyed the playerworld. Anyways, in the next few days, Okilian had some idea to make a card game. The card game was similar to Magic which he asked me to help with. I remember when I previously worked with Unholy Nation years before as a Developer, the card game was in the works as an idea, but never completed. To think of it, I agreed to work on the project, but I never completed it. Some use I was, right? Heh. Though, when I started to hang around Unholy Nation, I became interested into the new overworld project Unholy Nation was working on. The project was in the works, but wasn’t released to the public.

[Malinko]

On April 22, 2005, NeoJenova, the Manager of Unholy Nation released information on the new overworld project for Unholy Nation. NeoJenova showed two images, one being the old Unholy Nation map and the other being the new Unholy Nation map. It was a nice improvement. Though, improvements, that’s what this thread is about. NeoJenova announced a lot of things to be released along with the new overworld. A new currency system. A new what? If I do remember correctly, which I do think I remember, I play Unholy Nation each and every single day as a player. I don’t see a currency system? A new warp system. Oh, I see that. A new warp system hated by a number of players. I’m sure it’s “better” to have one NPC compared to ten, but isn’t Unholy Nation for the players? I’m sure the goal of the new overworld project for Unholy Nation was meant to make sure players enjoyed the playerworld. Oh wait, I think that’s what you said? “I hope this new UN is more enjoyable for everyone once we get all the kinks and bugs worked out of it.” From what I see, the constant arguments and riots taking place between players and staff in mass messages, I don’t think the goal was accomplished. Oh, before I forget, a new entertainment island. That was at least a success from what I’ve seen. Manta did a great job, as usual with what he does on Unholy Nation. Too bad there are little things to do there and no one cares to go there. Oh yes, once again, before I forget, the “un-mentioned features” you mentioned, I wonder what those are. Oh wait…if you play on Unholy Nation, you can clearly see those features are un-mentioned. From this date, April 22, 2005, I re-call you planned the release of the new overworld project for Unholy Nation to be released “late this weekend or early next week”. Let me now forward you forward in time. On June 1, 2005, Sub-Zero made an official announcement on the GraalOnline Communication Center that the “new” Unholy Nation has been released. That’s a long weekend or next week, isn’t it? Sub-Zero, being the current FAQ Administrator on Unholy Nation mentioned how the new warp system wasn’t a big success with the players. In addition, he mentioned that, “hopefully it will be better once the reset occurs and the new money system introduced”; the reset did happen, was it better? No, no it wasn’t, it basically ruined the economy of Unholy Nation. The new money system, isn’t that the basics you need to create a new economy? Well, I figure it would be, but I don’t see the new money system, nor a new economy, what happened? In the response to this thread created by Sub-Zero, NeoJenova posted he “liked” the playerworld. I’m sure, a lot of people liked the playerworld. It was an excitement to see Unholy Nation improve. Excitement has been lost, Unholy Nation didn’t improve. NeoJenova mentioned you like the fact that Unholy Nation now has plenty of room to expand. Quite true, it now does have plenty of room to expand. So why hasn’t been expanded? This is a complaint I’ve been hearing for the past months and especially the weeks I’ve became apart of the Playerworld Administration. In addition, he mentioned that Unholy Nation can add new elements such as boats, swimming, underwater side quest, and underwater towns. I ask GraalOnline, please log on client on to the playerworld, Unholy Nation to find these new elements. You will fail to do so. Sure, you can swim, a lot of players can swim. Too bad no one prefers to swim in the body of water within Unholy Nation if there is nothing to be done with it. I myself, as well as many of the other players on Unholy Nation are still waiting for the boats, underwater side quests, and underwater towns. Now let me forward you back in time (ironic statement, isn’t it?). Anyways, on March 22, 2005, Stefan removed the Administration of Unholy Nation. The Administration consisted of NeoJenova, Okilian, and Spryte. NeoJenova responded with a thread which he created on the GraalOnline Communication Center which he posted, “Malinko is place in charge of Unholy Nation, why? He was able to find the NPC being abused by hackers.” Hackers? What’s the deal with hackers and Unholy Nation? I don’t re-call hackers being on Unholy Nation at all. Your so called “hackers” are just players against the playerworld who uses trainers. Let me tell you, during the time this happened, I took a great amount of time to research the situation. In the results of the “great amount of time” I took to research the situation, I found a NPC, which was an actual class placed on the playerworld via putnpc2, which reset players through “sendtorc /reset #a”. Stefan confirmed this was the script being used as well. Now, I propose a question, the script being abused, was it a “hacker”? No, no it was not. It wasn’t a hacker at all, it was a staff member. Of course, during the time this happened, it was a former staff member, but as I said, “it was a staff member”. In the present time, which I mean, the second you, the reader are reading this thread, this player is a staff member on Unholy Nation currently. Surprising? Well, I don’t think so. In the recent weeks I’ve been apart of the Playerworld Administration, I’ve heard some staff admit that he or she are waiting for rights so commit their bad intentions on Unholy Nation against the current Administration of the playerworld. Now I bet most are asking why I haven’t done such a thing? Remember, when I agreed to be apart of the Playerworld Administration, I agreed I would take no part in the playerworld. So I haven’t taken action or haven’t responded to the situation that has been brought to me.

[Malinko]

So, you think I may be slandering NeoJenova as a Manager. Sure, you could say that. I'm doing it because he's a good person, just a bad Manager. Of course, this is my opinion. Well, others agree with my opinion as well, heh. For example, it's kind of bad. Recently, such as yesterday, there is a petition going around on Unholy Nation created by a GAT. With the petition, information is displayed. Many of the former AND current staff have signed this petition. Oh and yes, don't forget the players. To me, that's what GraalOnline: Unholy Nation is trying to say. Sure, some globals won't listen, some won't take the time. I myself am not taking the time, because I'm not allowed to.

Well, let me explain this.

I'm prepared to go against what I'm not allowed to do for GraalOnline and Unholy Nation. Why? For the players. You can say I'm making a fool of myself, embarassing the global community, but at least I have enough pride to listen to all the players. Sure, I love my Playerworld Administration, but fighting the cause, supporting what the GraalOnline community, especially my favorite playerworld is a whole lot better job to have. I'm not saying I quit, but I'm saying. Support me, support us, and just support fighting for the cause.

I would post more, but I'm not trying to slander a single person, I'm just trying to point out facts in general. Maybe someone "important" will see it and take action.

Other than that.

Fight the cause.

Edit: Oh yes, and Moonie and other forum mods. In one thread, I was complained about and slandered for being Unholy Nation's Manager for that short while...so why wasn't that thread closed? You should read the forum rules and act upon those things when it's done. I'm wondering how it was different against me. No offense, but really, why wasn't that done? This thread has a relevant cause, so don't try to close it down and only delete posts within the thread if you find it to be slander. Anyways, heh.

[Codein]

Yeah, as he said, fight the cause

[Malinko]

Oh and for the record.

The reason I'm doing this mainly is because I love Unholy Nation.

I have an obsession with it as my home playerworld.

Other than that, seeing massive arguements and riots from players and staff is kind of sad. Especially when the staff complain to you saying the Administration doesn't let them develop, use their work, or let them upload content within the playerworld.

So someone challenge me, I wish to acknowledge you with additional information. Ask me questions, do whatever.

I'm fighting the cause and whoever wants to support, support; whoever wants to fight, fight.

Hi.

[napo_p2p]

I worked on the card game too. UN Battalion, I think?

Anyways, I'm on your side this time Malinko :P.

*wonders if UN has GS2 enabled*

EDIT: Although I do not totally agree that UN is 'dying quickly', I do agree that UN can be better .

[Damix2]

I read the first post, but the 2nd one hurt my eyes. PARAGRAPHS MAN!

[DarkShadows_Legend]

You typed a lot.
UN isn't the only playerworld that has this problem you mention though. Lots of classic playerworlds promise so many things, but then collapse after their lead scripter leaves.

My main question is how do you plan on fighting the cause?
Is management going to be removed? If so, who do you guys see fit to run the playerworld?

[Splke]

Are you asking to fight against what Stefan said you can't do? Or what NJ is limiting UN to?..

I'm confused mate.

[Codein]

UN isn't the only playerworld that has this problem you mention though. Lots of classic playerworlds promise so many things, but then collapse after their lead scripter leaves.

Yes, but Malinko's prepared to save his home server.

[Chris]

I don't think you should be critiquing anyone or anything for the stunt you pulled on Era.

[Malinko]

Welcome to Unholy Nation, *Malinko (Married to Artanis)!
There are currently 85 players online.
Last updated by *NeoJenova on Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 06:08 PM EST.
======================
Plans for UN:
======================
HI, I'm NeoJenova your Manager.

UN will be going through a few changes and updates in the
next couple months and I am going to list a few things to
expect.

A full economy makeover is close to completetion.
4 Jobs are being made to replace all the current unused
unimportant jobs on UN now.

Fishing System Remake (Completed)
Mining System Remake (76% Completed)
NEW Hunting System (66% Completed)
Farming System Remake (43% Completed)

These jobs will allow you to progess your character as a
Miner, Fisher, Hunter, and Farmer through our new Job leveling
system. As you work at any one of these jobs you skill level
will increase and you will be able to make more money using
a given skill.

Example: A level 4 Fisher will be able to catch more BIGGER
more expensive fish from the UN seas.

A level 25 Miner will be mining bigger rocks more expensive
rocks and using better axe/hammer tools to do so.

A more experienced hunter will be able to take down bigger
game (animals) instead of hunting small squirells or rabbit for
little profit and go after deer and elk for meat and furs and
bigger profit.

A more experienced farmer will have better crops bigger corn
larger tomatos that will sell for more and more money.

The system will be made so you can continue working to
progress how rich you will be on UN.

We will also be making more and more things for you as
players to spend you riches on such as our newly introduced
Radio System where players will be able to rent stations and
hire DJs.

NEW UN Bowling (92% Completed)
NEW UN Theater (12% Completed)
NEW UN Radio Stations (90% Completed)

Big things coming to UN a lot fo expect.

I'd like to comment, 85 players during 3 PM EST isn't such a good playercount as Unholy Nation usually has. Sure, that's a lot of players, but what happened to the 120+ when I came home from school? Just like during the time I was at school, there would be around 50 on, now there's 20. Sad.

Changes in a couple of months? How long does it take to develop these things?

Complete economy re-make? Where have I heard this before?

The completion percentages...how long can those stay at the same percent? It's been a month...92% should change, should it not?

Oh right, I'm addressing responses within the thread to what people ask me on Unholy Nation. So...hm.

[syltburk]

You can take away the players, but you cant take away the players that don't.

Server is an idiot-marked server, you can never take it away, so "fight" for the cause.

[Malinko]

Originally Posted by DarkShadows_Legend

You typed a lot.
UN isn't the only playerworld that has this problem you mention though. Lots of classic playerworlds promise so many things, but then collapse after their lead scripter leaves.

My main question is how do you plan on fighting the cause?
Is management going to be removed? If so, who do you guys see fit to run the playerworld?

That's for the players to decide.

Originally Posted by Splke

Are you asking to fight against what Stefan said you can't do? Or what NJ is limiting UN to?..

I'm confused mate.

I'm fighting Unholy Nation from dying. Proposing options is the solution.

Originally Posted by Chris

I don't think you should be critiquing anyone or anything for the stunt you pulled on Era.

You don't know significant information of how and why I did that to begin talk. So I suggest you don't talk?

[Malinko]

Someone on Unholy Nation sent me a private message and asked what happened when I was Manager.

Well, when I thought about it, I thought it was un-fair how the three Administrators were fired on the spot. So after I thought about it, I -gave-, yes, yes I gave the positions back to those. I wasn't forced, I did it upon my own will to give those three another chance and used it as a "warning" I guess.

[osrs]

To be honest I just read the first post, I don't need to read everything because I basically know some of it.
Just wanted to say that you have and will always have my support on anything you do. I kind of felt the same thing when I became GST for a while, many people disliked the idea of me being part of it, but unfortunatelly I didn't had time to Graal anymore, so that's why I left. You shouldn't really matter about what people say, do your best and that's what really matters.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Malinko

You don't know significant information of how and why I did that to begin talk. So I suggest you don't talk?

I know more than you think.

[Mykel]

Ehh, good idea behind the post Malinko, but you are only opening yourself up to be attacked.

[Malinko]

Originally Posted by Mykel

Ehh, good idea behind the post Malinko, but you are only opening yourself up to be attacked.

That's the fun part.

[SuperSlayer90]

Can you answer your situation with Era and why you are banned?
Can you tell me what your relations to the Playerworld Helpers are?
Can you tell me why you tried to get Smu and I to upload a level for you?

[Codein]

Can you answer your situation with Era and why you are banned?
Can you tell me what your relations to the Playerworld Helpers are?
Can you tell me why you tried to get Smu and I to upload a level for you?

Era isn't relevant in this thread.

Blow it out of your arse somewhere else.

[Shiftk03-]

I think it's more of a "I don't like the limiting powers of being a lowly PWA, crown me as Manager and let me drive UN further into the ground."

[Damix2]

Originally Posted by Codein

Era isn't relevant in this thread.

Its perfectly relevent, you're just using the term wrong.


Before Malinko can be trusted with anything regarding UN he should have to be subject to inquiries of his former positions.

[Methril]

I could not read the second post in your story. Paragraphs would be an asset for your case.

[Deek2]

I'd like to know about this Era stuff before I decide wether or not I should support him.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Deek2

I'd like to know about this Era stuff before I decide wether or not I should support him.

Sadly it won't be made public because the forum administration will just shut us down. Nevertheless, what he did should bar him from ever holding power globally or locally.

[Malinko]

What I did on Era.

Easily, I abused my global rights. Stefan asked me to help test and he said I was allowed to have "fun" when I tested. So I editted my attributes and gave myself a massive amount of money. In addition, I kept the extra amount of money on a spare account and used it, which caused me to glitch additional money through the casino so I was rich. I also distributed the money to another person, who happens to be my wife, and we bought a massive amount of stuff? Now, did we do such things with the things we bought? No, no we did not. I basically kept the money on a second account. In addition, I asked Stefan to reset my account and my other account when we were done with the requests we were asked to do. Of course, he did not know the second account with the 50,000 dollars was my other account, so he only reset me. I figured it would be such a term as I was asking him to reset some random account without telling him it was me. In all terms, I did abuse my rights, I'm not afraid to say it. Though I did it without harm and was asked to help test. Sure, I did glitch a lot of extra money through a flower glitch, but that's because I was asked to do so. I wasn't removed from my global position, I had rights taken away for a few days, and I didn't argue back because I admit what I did and I took the punishment without arguing. In terms, it made Stefan not seem biased because Era did want action taken against me. Of course, I was banned from Era, well you can't ban me from it, but I'm not allowed to log on. Though, what else do you want me to say? Like I said, I'm not caring about what people say about me, I'm saying I'm doing this for the good ole purpose of the players on Unholy Nation. I could care less about Era. It's just a flaw that causes the Unholy Nation playercount to go down. It's competition, which I gladly accept to challenge.

Come on, keep slandering me so I can cheat, lie, and steal my way to victory if you all think that's what I'm going to do. In the end, at least I'm doing what's right to keep Unholy Nation alive. You can slander me all you wish, I'll take it, and keep fighting my cause. I'm not trying to slander a single person right now, because at least I'll take this in a professional, serious manner where I can take about situations and solutions. So keep slandering me Era, I love it.

Edit: Oh, and in the end, at least I can admit that I'm corrupt unlike some people. So what else would you like to slander me about? Put all you can think of, I'll respond to it. Your arrogance into slandering me just proves that you don't care about the issue I'm addressing, meaning you have nothing to do with posting within this thread. So come on, amuse me. I'll keep my ground and just show your arrogance over this issue. The more the subject is ignored, the more I prove my point that no one cares. Which just makes Unholy Nation suffer an additional second, but I guess many people don't care. Just shows my job as a Playerworld Administrator go to waste I guess.

[protagonist]

Let UN die, and then bring it back. It doesn't need another regime change.

As a PWA, I made it a point to never look at a playercount and say "wow, the managers must suck" or anything like that. In fact, the only reason I would ever replace a management is because they were violating rules or were doing something ethically wrong. The PWA's primary job is not to make servers better, it is simply to suggest (at most) and enforce the user agreement and global rules for conduct/content.

While in some cases, inaction and incompetence is wrong, UN is not such a case. It's a server in which the management has little to do with what the players actually do. In fact, most of what keeps the server going is a combination of events and community. UN will, in most cases, be alive no matter who manages it. It went for long periods without dramatic updates and thrived, and there is no reason to suppose that it will not do the same now.

[Okilian]

wow, Malinko, you wrote a hell of a lot. I went over the whole idea of things, and really, I've seen this side of you before.

I had a lot more to say, but really, whatever. Hopefully the truth will come out, and people will go about their business.

[contego]

Napo said it on the last thread... "Era was released therefore all playercounts numbers were reduced." *shakes head* Honestly this thread shouldn't have been opened.

[Codein]

Yeah, Era was opened, but it's because it has NEW MATERIAL

What's UN got? A Warp Scroll and a new overworld. These updates were made just about 3 or 4 months ago.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Malinko

Stefan asked me to help test and he said I was allowed to have "fun" when I tested.

[Malinko]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Pssh.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Stefan

haha.. I love how Malinko tried to make what he did seem legitimate. And even before that, he tried to make it seem like local staff were the ones causing the trouble.

[Smutastic]

Originally Posted by Malinko

Oh and for the record.

The reason I'm doing this mainly is because I love Unholy Nation.

Awww man, you're just too kind.

[Malinko]

Originally Posted by Okilian

wow, Malinko, you wrote a hell of a lot. I went over the whole idea of things, and really, I've seen this side of you before.

I had a lot more to say, but really, whatever. Hopefully the truth will come out, and people will go about their business.

Of course you've seen this side of me. I've brought this upon you when you were a "Manager" of Unholy Nation. When I did, at least things were accomplished. I find it quite fun how no one is challenging the situation I have proposed because there is no excuse at all in general about the points I have made. Many do agree with me, players on Unholy Nation that have read this thread agree with me, and face it, there is no excuse for what is going on.

Originally Posted by Chris

haha.. I love how Malinko tried to make what he did seem legitimate. And even before that, he tried to make it seem like local staff were the ones causing the trouble.

Hah, I'm quite amused reading that you think you know about the situation that came about. I would post history within this thread, but seeing how this is against the GraalOnline Communication Center rules, I won't. Though, it would show a very biased side of a few people and the situation and solution in general.

Anyways, like I said when I quoted Okilian in a reply, there isn't such an excuse for the things occuring on Unholy Nation. It's been six months, there is not an excuse to not do the things a playerworld should do. You can keep coming up with excuses and the excuses will be challenged. Not a single person in this thread has made an excuse or challenged the points I have made. The only challenge is players not leaving the playerworld. Of course players do leave the playerworld, it's not noticeable to many of you who don't play there, but it's happening. In addition, many of the Unholy Nation players are hoping for the best and trying to help out. Maybe going through me is a method the players will use, who knows. Of course, others are trying additional methods. Hell, I've played the playerworld like I usually do and some people are massing out comments against other players and staff, trying to slander a number of them. None of you play there, so many of you can't challenge it in general. Anyways, like I said, many of the players and staff agree nothing is going on around there, it's been said many times before. Just because -you- don't hear it doesn't mean it does not occur. I mean, if you have a number of people who wish to become staff and -current- staff who are trying to get rights to the playerworld just to perform illegal actions to make the situation get noticed, then you know it's bad. Though, I won't get into that because it's pointless to say right now.

[Crono]

No one cares if UN's staff suck / aren't productive, because UN has the highest playercount and there's nothing we can do.

[Malinko]

Originally Posted by protagonist

Let UN die, and then bring it back. It doesn't need another regime change.

As a PWA, I made it a point to never look at a playercount and say "wow, the managers must suck" or anything like that. In fact, the only reason I would ever replace a management is because they were violating rules or were doing something ethically wrong. The PWA's primary job is not to make servers better, it is simply to suggest (at most) and enforce the user agreement and global rules for conduct/content.

While in some cases, inaction and incompetence is wrong, UN is not such a case. It's a server in which the management has little to do with what the players actually do. In fact, most of what keeps the server going is a combination of events and community. UN will, in most cases, be alive no matter who manages it. It went for long periods without dramatic updates and thrived, and there is no reason to suppose that it will not do the same now.

Hi, VT. Sorry, I read your post in the thread, but forgot to reply.
With all respect to you as a former Playerworld Administrator and Levels Team Administrator on Unholy Nation before then, I must say, this response isn't what describes the point I'm trying to make.

I am not looking to base this fight on the playercount. I mentioned it, yes, yes I did, but I'm not basing my whole entire thing based on just a playercount. I'm not saying NeoJenova being a Manager just "sucks". I said he's a good buy, but a bad Manager. I'm not saying he's the worse one in existance or just plain "sucks". I do agree with you with the job of the Playerworld Administration. We do enforce the GraalOnline conducts and content. Though, I don't think trapping a number amount of players in a blockable putnpc2 section and telling players to warp there is within the rules. As well as making NPCs that manipulates players to move them on walls so the Manager can make "an island that spells the letters of NJ". If those were in the rules, wow, a lot of people would have fun. Though, with this said, I apologize if that seemed to be slander, but it's facts like just show to be slander. Unholy Nation has changed since the time you were around, VampiricTutor, it has changed greatly. If there is no control over the staff and the players, then the community and events shall fail. Would you like being in events where some staff warp to other staff and PK them which ruins the event and gives an unfair advantage? Sure, that's one little incident, but it still is an incident which can lead up to other things, which does change a lot. Now think that's only one day, well, think of it as a reign for six months.

[Malinko]

Originally Posted by Gerami

No one cares if UN's staff suck / aren't productive, because UN has the highest playercount and there's nothing we can do.

Players are loyal to their home playerworld, though eventually, those players will leave if not happy with the content of the playerworld. The playercount is high, I agree, maybe not high as it used to be on average, but still high. Does that still show a success in a playerworld? No. If there are constant fights among the players and staff, then the playerworld is not following the rules set by GraalOnline. The additional facts I provided show why these situations came about. So what actions should be taken? You tell me. Just as if your home playerworld or favorite playerworld was shut down and it came back a few laters, you will see some amount of players return to the playerworld, no matter how bad or good it is. I can take Babylon for instance, if Babylon returns, I'm sure a good amount of players that N-Pulse has, which has most of the Babylon community will leave the playerworld to return to their home playerworld. No matter how much they hate or love N-Pulse or hate or love Babylon, it's how it works.

[StrykerTFFD]

Everyone should move to Classic and make babies.