Paying to Develop? - Page 3

LilNiglet · #31 09-25-2005, 09:12 PM

There are very few returns on high-quality playermade Graal servers. If we could do it for free, there'd be a ton of useless worlds, and probably nothing all that good. Using a fee (and if you move to Classic, its free) is a good way to weed out those who are not serious about developing a true playerworld.

TedHead2k · #32 09-25-2005, 10:30 PM

A better angle on this is that Graal gets the money that people are paying to enjoy other people's work.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I may have a misunderstanding, but I don't believe anyone who works on Unholy Nation staff gets a single cent. They have created the most successful Graal server out there. Correct me if I'm wrong again, but I don't think that anybody in development of the Classic servers actually gets anything, just a "frozen" account, and Classic and Hosted servers are a lot more popular than the Gold ones.

A large majority of players get accounts only to play on Classic or Hosted servers, myself included. But the people who are making these servers that are most successful aren't getting anything. Just the "satisfaction" of being on the official Classic list and being in charge. Well, if that's good enough motivation for you to spend hours of work on a server, then go for it, but I really don't see anything attractive about the idea.

Spark910 · #33 09-26-2005, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TedHead2k

A better angle on this is that Graal gets the money that people are paying to enjoy other people's work.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I may have a misunderstanding, but I don't believe anyone who works on Unholy Nation staff gets a single cent. They have created the most successful Graal server out there. Correct me if I'm wrong again, but I don't think that anybody in development of the Classic servers actually gets anything, just a "frozen" account, and Classic and Hosted servers are a lot more popular than the Gold ones.

A large majority of players get accounts only to play on Classic or Hosted servers, myself included. But the people who are making these servers that are most successful aren't getting anything. Just the "satisfaction" of being on the official Classic list and being in charge. Well, if that's good enough motivation for you to spend hours of work on a server, then go for it, but I really don't see anything attractive about the idea.

But then you're talking about classic servers, and not one of those servers were ever paid for.

ChibiChibiLuc · #34 09-26-2005, 01:03 AM

When v4 is fully released, it won't even really be 'frozen,' because we'll be denied access to certain features.

napo_p2p · #35 09-26-2005, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChibiChibiLuc

When v4 is fully released, it won't even really be 'frozen,' because we'll be denied access to certain features.

Really? Like what?

TedHead2k · #36 09-26-2005, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Spark910

But then you're talking about classic servers, and not one of those servers were ever paid for.

I know, and that's a bit better, but it doesn't change the fact that the people who own those servers are the main reasons why Graal has any success, and they don't really get anything for it.

ApothiX · #37 10-18-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MKxTortoise

You're not making Graal any money, nobody has registered a VIP account explicitly to play your dev server. Work on it, maybe.

Except the developers

shadowjones · #38 04-12-2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChibiChibiLuc

Can anyone explain to me the thinking behind the whole 'You have to pay us to develop our game' crap?

I've been thinking about and it really confuses me.
Why do developers have to pay Graal Online for the 'privelege' of working on servers?
We're creating new content, which in turn attracts new players and encourages old players to continue subscribing to Graal.

We're making Graal Online more money, so why are they charging us to do so?
I really don't see a point to it.
Graal, in my opinion, loses it's fun after the first month. I only 'play' Graal for the scripting aspects, and I can't even continue to do that to my fullest extent unless I give them more of my money.

Thoughts on this/reasons for making us pay to develop?

I was to lazy to read all the replies but here's mine:

You pay to basically rent a server. People do NOT play the game for the non-public servers. Thus you do NOT make Stefan anything. Once the server becomes public, the server hosting also becomes free...therefore you are no longer, "paying to develop" as you say. So if you develop everything offline (levels mostly) you can buy your server ($60) and then get your scripts up ASAP, (month?) and then BAM it only cost you a 1 time fee...GG?

Googi · #39 04-12-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowjones

I was to lazy to read all the replies but here's mine:

Looks like your time machine script only worked clientside.

Rapidwolve · #40 04-13-2007, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ChibiChibiLuc

Can anyone explain to me the thinking behind the whole 'You have to pay us to develop our game' crap?

I've been thinking about and it really confuses me.
Why do developers have to pay Graal Online for the 'privelege' of working on servers?
We're creating new content, which in turn attracts new players and encourages old players to continue subscribing to Graal.

We're making Graal Online more money, so why are they charging us to do so?
I really don't see a point to it.
Graal, in my opinion, loses it's fun after the first month. I only 'play' Graal for the scripting aspects, and I can't even continue to do that to my fullest extent unless I give them more of my money.

Thoughts on this/reasons for making us pay to develop?

Hi Yen.