What makes a good server?

[Shiftk03-]

Originally Posted by Chicken_l33t

It has everything from "standard Graal stuff" like sparring, PKing, simulated dating and intercourse, to Guns, Events, RPG systems, etc.

I don't know what game you signed up for but I'm pretty sure "simulated dating and intercourse" isn't standard Graal stuff.

Originally Posted by Chicken_l33t

The people who have posted to bash UN are completley oblivious to what UN offers because they have not obviously spent the time of day on UN. and are just jelous the playworld they play doesn't get the playercount.

Being a serverhopper more then anything, I've spent time on alot of playerworlds. I've spent time on UN too. I'm hardly jealous of the playercount. I speak of what I've seen and what I've seen was "simulated dating and intercourse".

Originally Posted by Chicken_l33t

If UN was taken away. and the playercount switched to another server. I bet the bash would switch to 'That server is the sux it only has playercount cause UN has gone! If My serber was behind UN at the time it would of been teh owage'.

Alright. You're just pulling things out of your ass. The quests are subpar at best, the events are just like every other server, and the community while there may be some cool people (NeoJenova seems alright) is mostly overran by prepubescent and hormonally challenged kids. Sure, it can be argued that Graal is a game for such kids but only on UN can you find SSJVEGETO trying to be adopted by some whacko who just so happens to be looking for a Graal lay.

[haro41]

you get the level 3 sword from a slot machine.

[bef]

Originally Posted by haro41

you get the level 3 sword from a slot machine.

Yeah, you see it worries me that that sort of thing impresses people... You get hearts from random chests... There's no depth and yet it's popular - it drives me crazy.

I'd also like to take this oppertunity, seeing as I won't have another for 8 hours, to say Congratulations to Contego; he has taken over Management of Shaded Legend. Hrr4 will remain as Assistant Manager, overall a great result for SL as we now have more oppertunity to progress and impress!

[jacob_bald6225]

UN makes me sad in the fact that the quests would be impossible to find and complete enough to have decent stats without a walkthrough or asking people for help.

[MKxTortoise]

Originally Posted by bef

Yeah, you see it worries me that that sort of thing impresses people... You get hearts from random chests... There's no depth and yet it's popular - it drives me crazy.

I'd also like to take this oppertunity, seeing as I won't have another for 8 hours, to say Congratulations to Contego; he has taken over Management of Shaded Legend. Hrr4 will remain as Assistant Manager, overall a great result for SL as we now have more oppertunity to progress and impress!

What would you suggest in it's place? Carrying a pot across a bridge of tiles? Fighting waves of baddies? Reading an FAQ online to decipher a quest?!

Use your head.. your UN bashing thread isn't as subtle as you think it is, and even less effective.

[Mafukie]

Originally Posted by MKxTortoise

What would you suggest in it's place? Carrying a pot across a bridge of tiles? Fighting waves of baddies? Reading an FAQ online to decipher a quest?!

Use your head.. your UN bashing thread isn't as subtle as you think it is, and even less effective.

If that is all you can think of for a quest to get hearts you are very unimaginative to what graal's scripting engine is capable of, you can have teamwork involved (since the server is so populated it wouldn't be a problem to have this in place) it was used in graal2001. You can have quests where you have to go to different NPCs and complete tasks to complete the quest.

[Bl0nkt]

Originally Posted by Mafukie

If that is all you can think of for a quest to get hearts you are very unimaginative to what graal's scripting engine is capable of, you can have teamwork involved (since the server is so populated it wouldn't be a problem to have this in place) it was used in graal2001. You can have quests where you have to go to different NPCs and complete tasks to complete the quest.

Too bad UN doesn't have the capability.

[excaliber7388]

yeah, and the jobs on UN also could use a touch up. the weapons are boring and the quests aren't great,only the new quests are any good but hey, it apeals to many people,...especialy new people its Graal alright, but with ADD not bashing it, it's okay, but it's FAR from the best, or what it could/should be *more subtle *

[MysticX2X]

everyone plays Un cuz everyone else.

[diagram]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

everyone plays Un cuz everyone else.

That's abit of an overstatement.

[bef]

Originally Posted by MKxTortoise

What would you suggest in it's place? Carrying a pot across a bridge of tiles? Fighting waves of baddies? Reading an FAQ online to decipher a quest?!

Use your head.. your UN bashing thread isn't as subtle as you think it is, and even less effective.

This is not a "Unholy Nation bashing thread", you simply cannot see past the faults in your own server.

What do I suggest in its place? Actual complex and consistant quests that follow a STORYLINE.

Use your head.. being ignorant and believing that everything that you like is good, is pathetic.. If you think Unholy Nation is a wellmade server then you obviously have nothing to compare it to or you're just impressed by inconsistancies and lack of depth.

[UberModeKappa]

I propose a ressurection of Liquidice, Acidice, Wiz Kid, Devil Kitty, and my mentor, Krazy Keiko.

[MKxTortoise]

Originally Posted by Mafukie

If that is all you can think of for a quest to get hearts you are very unimaginative to what graal's scripting engine is capable of, you can have teamwork involved (since the server is so populated it wouldn't be a problem to have this in place) it was used in graal2001. You can have quests where you have to go to different NPCs and complete tasks to complete the quest.

Why would you want to do that? Slow fullheart and sword acquisition so less people can spar and PK? Uhh.. okay.

Besides.. you think UN doesn't utilize their NPC/GFX talents to their fullest? Have you seen their RP system? It's better than Valikorlia's by a long shot, and they don't even claim to specialize.

Originally Posted by bef

This is not a "Unholy Nation bashing thread", you simply cannot see past the faults in your own server.

I'm from Delteria, thanks

Originally Posted by bef

What do I suggest in its place? Actual complex and consistant quests that follow a STORYLINE.

What's the point of a storyline if it's ultimately going to be beaten? All players will ultimately persue either RPing (in which case stats will become irrelevant), PKing (needs an upgraded sword), Sparring (needs hearts and an upgraded sword), or staff positions (at which point they aren't players anymore).

If you inserted random text into quests all you would do is give some "M" keys some exercise. If you make the storyline external, it's unlikely people will bother with it, because it isn't mandatory to surviving in the area the player wants to survive. Unholy Nation succeeds partially because it has a staff that realizes these things are deterrents and unappealing to players.

Originally Posted by bef

Use your head.. being ignorant and believing that everything that you like is good, is pathetic..

Dude, look at your own thread title.

Originally Posted by bef

If you think Unholy Nation is a wellmade server then you obviously have nothing to compare it to or you're just impressed by inconsistancies and lack of depth.

If you were to go on Unholy Nation and total the value of all the accounts online at any given time it would exceed every other server except for Graal Kingdoms (which it would still sometimes beat). Yes, that's when trials are worth no money at all. Unholy Nation will still have the biggest playercount, and therefore is the server that funds the game best. To that end, it is a well made server moreso than anything else. Just because you find yourself to be intellectually elite or refined or some nonsense compared to UN's clientele doesn't somehow make your 28 dollars more valued.

It's impossible to win this arguement as it ultimately becomes a matter of personal opinion, but realize that I have statistics in my favor and you do not.

[Corp1]

UN is to Graal, like what McDonald's is to fast food.

[nullify]

Originally Posted by James205

You know what... I really like that idea.

I'll start a playerworld named "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~~~~~GRAAL" and dominate the circuit.