Graal V4 released to VIP today

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Fry

I'm still confused why you went back to Delphi; Graal v3 seemed perfectly fine to me, but since I don't know the specifics, I guess I'm missing something. To me there seemed to be much more problems with v4 than with v3 (especially fonts - and I don't think Bitmap fonts are a step into the right direction).
Again, I might just be missing something there, but it'd be nice to know.

In Graal v4 the interface is written in Delphi. Advantages:
- More compatible - people that use v2 will not have problems with v4
- External playerlist and option window (it might be possible sometime to allow scripted external windows but this will take time).

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by Stefan

In Graal v4 the interface is written in Delphi. Advantages:
- More compatible - people that use v2 will not have problems with v4
- External playerlist and option window (it might be possible sometime to allow scripted external windows but this will take time).

I think the point that Fry is getting at is that moving back to Delphi was a bad idea.
Graal 3 has always been so much faster for me, and Graal 4 just doesn't perform as well.

The other thing with Graal 4 is the lack of OpenGL. What happened to that?

[Questa]

Originally Posted by Skyld

I think the point that Fry is getting at is that moving back to Delphi was a bad idea.
Graal 3 has always been so much faster for me, and Graal 4 just doesn't perform as well.

The other thing with Graal 4 is the lack of OpenGL. What happened to that?

He said the interface was written in delphi, not the game engine itself (which should be as fast as 3.0)

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Graal 3 has always been so much faster for me, and Graal 4 just doesn't perform as well.

Same for me, i don't know why though. Everytime i spar i have people complaining about how bag i lag, but i never used to lag before. It could just be my computer.

[CheeToS2]

Originally Posted by Matt

Same for me, i don't know why though. Everytime i spar i have people complaining about how bag i lag, but i never used to lag before. It could just be my computer.

v4 seems to have UDP problems, so try disabling UDP (in general options)

[Matt]

Originally Posted by CheeToS2

v4 seems to have UDP problems, so try disabling UDP (in general options)

I disabled that right after the first time i downloaded V4.

[Deek2]

So, when is the OSX version going to come out (or if it has already been released)?

[napo_p2p]

Originally Posted by Deek2

So, when is the OSX version going to come out (or if it has already been released)?

This?
http://www.graalonline.com/downloads/Graal4Setup.dmg.gz

[Fry]

Originally Posted by Stefan

In Graal v4 the interface is written in Delphi. Advantages:
- More compatible - people that use v2 will not have problems with v4
- External playerlist and option window (it might be possible sometime to allow scripted external windows but this will take time).

Well, yes, I guess not having to fight with the Windows API to integrate external windows is a good reason. Okay. But why were there such big problems with TTF that Bitmap fonts needed to be used? Did Torque or v3 display Bitmap fonts too?

Originally Posted by Questa

He said the interface was written in delphi, not the game engine itself (which should be as fast as 3.0)

Should, yes, but isn't; I don't think DDraw7 was such a good choice. But lets wait until it's finished.