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Old 09-05-2005, 01:13 AM
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Thats because if you no longer have gold/vip you can only post once every # of hours, i think its 8 or something.
I think thats why anyways

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Oh.. i just loged in and noticed it ran out 2 days ago Anyway im done for VIP + Gold for now i've purchased 7+ subscriptions and im not paying 25$ for a new client with hardly any significant diferances
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Old 09-05-2005, 01:16 AM
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Oh.. i just loged in and noticed it ran out 2 days ago Anyway im done for VIP + Gold for now i've purchased 7+ subscriptions and im not paying 25$ for a new client with hardly any significant diferances
These aren't significant?

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Old 09-05-2005, 02:29 AM
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Oh.. i just loged in and noticed it ran out 2 days ago Anyway im done for VIP + Gold for now i've purchased 7+ subscriptions and im not paying 25$ for a new client with hardly any significant diferances
Version4 is alot different, and much improved in my opinion.
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Old 09-05-2005, 05:45 AM
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Oh.. i just loged in and noticed it ran out 2 days ago Anyway im done for VIP + Gold for now i've purchased 7+ subscriptions and im not paying 25$ for a new client with hardly any significant diferances
v4 is created from scratch in a whole new programming language, and is more likely than not the most 'new' graal release ever.
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Old 09-05-2005, 06:17 AM
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v4 is created from scratch in a whole new programming language,
Why do people keep saying this? It's wrong.
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Old 09-05-2005, 08:52 AM
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Why do people keep saying this? It's wrong.
Maybe it is because people think they know everything.
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Old 09-07-2005, 03:06 PM
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Why do people keep saying this? It's wrong.
It is rewritten from scratch, in C++
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:13 PM
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It is rewritten from scratch, in C++
I'm still confused why you went back to Delphi; Graal v3 seemed perfectly fine to me, but since I don't know the specifics, I guess I'm missing something. To me there seemed to be much more problems with v4 than with v3 (especially fonts - and I don't think Bitmap fonts are a step into the right direction).
Again, I might just be missing something there, but it'd be nice to know.
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Old 09-07-2005, 05:19 PM
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I'm still confused why you went back to Delphi; Graal v3 seemed perfectly fine to me, but since I don't know the specifics, I guess I'm missing something. To me there seemed to be much more problems with v4 than with v3 (especially fonts - and I don't think Bitmap fonts are a step into the right direction).
Again, I might just be missing something there, but it'd be nice to know.
All you need to understand is that C++ makes it more portable and should make the game generally faster.

If there are things missing in V4, things like that tend to happen when there is a complete rewrite. It will take time for ALL of the features from previus versions to make their way back in.

I can't use v4 since I'm not VIP (and don't plan to be; why pay money to be a beta tester?) but if you don't notice performance boosts, then at least you should once Stefan works all the wrinkles out of the code.
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Old 09-07-2005, 06:02 PM
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It is rewritten from scratch, in C++
But you are using some Delphi stuff in it too, are you not?

So the whole v4 client would then not be totally rewritten from scratch in C++ (though most of it would be).

I am just arguing semantics here.
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Old 09-07-2005, 06:39 PM
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I'm still confused why you went back to Delphi; Graal v3 seemed perfectly fine to me, but since I don't know the specifics, I guess I'm missing something. To me there seemed to be much more problems with v4 than with v3 (especially fonts - and I don't think Bitmap fonts are a step into the right direction).
Again, I might just be missing something there, but it'd be nice to know.
In Graal v4 the interface is written in Delphi. Advantages:
- More compatible - people that use v2 will not have problems with v4
- External playerlist and option window (it might be possible sometime to allow scripted external windows but this will take time).
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Old 09-07-2005, 06:50 PM
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In Graal v4 the interface is written in Delphi. Advantages:
- More compatible - people that use v2 will not have problems with v4
- External playerlist and option window (it might be possible sometime to allow scripted external windows but this will take time).
I think the point that Fry is getting at is that moving back to Delphi was a bad idea.
Graal 3 has always been so much faster for me, and Graal 4 just doesn't perform as well.

The other thing with Graal 4 is the lack of OpenGL. What happened to that?
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:32 PM
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I think the point that Fry is getting at is that moving back to Delphi was a bad idea.
Graal 3 has always been so much faster for me, and Graal 4 just doesn't perform as well.

The other thing with Graal 4 is the lack of OpenGL. What happened to that?
He said the interface was written in delphi, not the game engine itself (which should be as fast as 3.0)
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Old 09-07-2005, 10:04 PM
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In Graal v4 the interface is written in Delphi. Advantages:
- More compatible - people that use v2 will not have problems with v4
- External playerlist and option window (it might be possible sometime to allow scripted external windows but this will take time).
Well, yes, I guess not having to fight with the Windows API to integrate external windows is a good reason. Okay. But why were there such big problems with TTF that Bitmap fonts needed to be used? Did Torque or v3 display Bitmap fonts too?

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He said the interface was written in delphi, not the game engine itself (which should be as fast as 3.0)
Should, yes, but isn't; I don't think DDraw7 was such a good choice. But lets wait until it's finished.
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Old 09-08-2005, 03:55 AM
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Graal 3 has always been so much faster for me, and Graal 4 just doesn't perform as well.
Same for me, i don't know why though. Everytime i spar i have people complaining about how bag i lag, but i never used to lag before. It could just be my computer.
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Old 09-08-2005, 04:22 AM
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Same for me, i don't know why though. Everytime i spar i have people complaining about how bag i lag, but i never used to lag before. It could just be my computer.
v4 seems to have UDP problems, so try disabling UDP (in general options)
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Hmm, so v4 has the internal (GS2) and external (Delphi) GUIs, I think it was a good idea to do this. Much better to have the playerlist outside the Graal window. Also like the new GS2 GUI theme.

Also I would like if you could somehow add more advanced features to the NPCServer, like some type of extended connection for people with the rights that would have more options than the normal NC, that would allow you to take things a step further in how the NPCServer operates, make it unique to the server.
I hope i'm making sense.
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v4 seems to have UDP problems, so try disabling UDP (in general options)
I disabled that right after the first time i downloaded V4.
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So, when is the OSX version going to come out (or if it has already been released)?
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Old 10-21-2005, 04:00 AM
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Does this come included with RC? I'm not on my mac right now to look
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Hmm, so v4 has the internal (GS2) and external (Delphi) GUIs
I think v4 was completely redone in C++, no more Delphi :P
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The last I saw of Graal v4 for Apple/Mac was yesterday when Stefan was testing it. So I'm guessing it will be released soon.
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The last I saw of Graal v4 for Apple/Mac was yesterday when Stefan was testing it. So I'm guessing it will be released soon.
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Hoorah for graal on mac.
My brother just updated to gold just to check out g4, i like it. Now all the emoticons can be used and when commands are bound to buttons they actually work 'omg'. So looking good as of now, plus many annoying bugs from the last client are gone with the new engine such as crashing from certain masses and weapons saving even when told to destroy;.
YAY!!
Can't wait till i can use it on my classic account and anticipate an RC for mac which has the functionality of the pc rc.

But as of now, looking good, and I think it may have bought my brother back to the game.

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Anyone having problems to install V4 beside me ?
What OS? I know there have been some issues with Mac (just regarding bad configuration).
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What problem are you having?
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What problem are you having?
I can't read the message because it shows fast, when I open the executable it says something like 'Scanning folder structure' then my computer crashs. I'm on win98.
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